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The Hub => The Library [ A R C H I V E ] => Staff Updates => Grimoire => Topic started by: Gaserlake on July 14, 2010, 12:58:32 AM
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AM fields do not penetrate the body. The reason is because the soul or the magic-producing organ makes a passive barrier, which is part of the soul itself. The soul is not made of magic, but made of something that makes a natural barrier against anti-magic.
This allows magic to be used inside the body uninterrupted. Creating an AAM field is one of those things. AAM fields are specifically designed to negate the effects of the AM field. The AM field, however, isn't designed to negate the effects of the AAM field, but only magic, even though it still has some effects against the AAM field.
Since the AAM field has already taken place inside the body, it can be expanded outwards, outside the body, and into the AM field. This takes skill to focus something inside your own body, so I would say that only those with magic lvl's 4 and up can do this, but I might be wrong about the scale thing. I know that it would at least require experienced magic users to do this.
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I'll wait until you detail this tomorrow before saying anything.
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There. Did it.
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I highly suggest you verify what you said about souls with Hikaru and K2323, as they are the original creators. But, you've got a problem. What of the magic races that don't use souls for magic use? The Relorians, Loreians, and Evolved Humans for examples?
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And the Paxans.
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I meant to say that all magic-producing organs would do the same. I just used the soul as an example.
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Soo, basically, AM fields mean nothing anymore?
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Nekohikaruchan 10:36 am
I didn't read it yet.
BUT
What IS an AAM Field?
Gaserlake 10:36 am
A field specifically designed to take down the AM field.
Nekohikaruchan 10:36 am
You say a sage could produce it. But what IS it? It can't be magic...
Gaserlake 10:36 am
ummm...
..oh... Never got that far, either... Probably the same energy-type as AM fields, except opposite, umm... shit...
SO. What is it?
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AM fields do suppress magic outside the body, so it still has some use.
For what the AM and the AAM fields really are, I don't know, tbh.
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Let me take my hand at this. Anti-Magic has always been produced by magic, pre-GE. It makes sense that AM Fields are fields containing some sort of particle or energy which, when in contact with magic, cancels it out. Sort of a negative side to magic, if you will. AAM Fields, then, change the particles/energy/whatever from negative to neutral, giving it no effect over magic.
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AAM obviously negates AM field, so it would have properties that negate the AM field. The AM field, however, does have properties to negate the AAM field, but not as much as the other way round. Though, it can negate it by being more powerful than the AAM field, having more amounts of energy at once than the AAM field. In other words, the AM field can be stronger than the AAM field, if there's a more amount of energy produced than the AAM field can negate.
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Let me take my hand at this. Anti-Magic has always been produced by magic, pre-GE. It makes sense that AM Fields are fields containing some sort of particle or energy which, when in contact with magic, cancels it out. Sort of a negative side to magic, if you will. AAM Fields, then, change the particles/energy/whatever from negative to neutral, giving it no effect over magic.
I want to clarify that that AM Field was actually created during GE by me one. Two there are three ways around it. A: Take a AM Canceler device, aka AAM Field. But your problem is those can be detected. B: You can do Hikaru's way, which I actually read it and saw nothing wrong with it. Very well thought through in fact. C: If you are skilled enough you can withstand the field by mental powers. Magic is summoned up from your body but in order to control it (Back in the GE days) you would have to use your mind to do it. When the AM fields were made it was to break one's ability to use magic by effecting the brain in a way where you were unable to focus it to use magic. But if you are skilled enough you can stop the AM device with extreme mental concentration. Even if that isn't how Magic works here I would say as the original creator that this way would still work. Granted the ability to use this one would be restricted to level 5s or higher unless trained to resist by someone else who can resist. I would also want to point out this way would not always be effective for if someone was to put multiple AM Field Generators then this trick would fail because you would have to mentally fend yourself off from many fields. (You can correct me if I made a mistake.)
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Even if that isn't how Magic works here I would say as the original creator that this way would still work. Granted the ability to use this one would be restricted to level 5s or higher unless trained to resist by someone else who can resist.
Wouldn't work now. Just because you're the creator of it doesn't mean you can say it works when it wouldn't. Because magic is existence, AM fields break up the conversion and prevent more from being converted. Using a mental technique would not change that.
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Yes but the meaning of how magic exists wouldn't change from that time. It would have to be the same the whole time through. We never had this much info on magic in GE. Thus I filled in the blanks while created these fields. When you added in the the info of magic it wouldn't change the fact I have used this tactic before nor would it mean that magic was different then.
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If you filled in the blanks you should have had the fields detailed and given it to someone or posted it IC. I filled in the magic system and blanks on AM fields when Gaser had asked me to because we had NOTHING. Now you want to come back and say they work differently? Sorry, but it's changed. We needed your 'filled in blanks,' back when there were still god damn arguments.
I'll explain the plot hole away that the AM field from the past as a prototype or something.
Cause' there's no way that technique can work now...
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No one bothered to ask me for what little knowledge I had. Unless you have chats to prove otherwise.