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The Hub => The Library [ A R C H I V E ] => Staff Updates => IC Disputes => Topic started by: Beware Ye Who Enter Here on July 23, 2010, 11:30:40 PM
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We see that it looks like a new war between the Aralangs and Nisorin's factions is about to erupt. However there are a lot of variables.
the Lorcar: these locusts could potentially attack after the two sides weaken each other. This would probably hurt both factions and make them stop and declare a truce.
Mechera: Since IC Hik is bound to attack the Mechera, I think the Aralangs and Mechera are going to be allies in this time of need.
The Migrant Fleet (Zarethians): They are pretty desperate for a planet, so anyone who gives them one in exchange, they will probably lend their strength towards.
Others to be included later..
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To be honest, if the Aralangs stop acting the way they have been, the Relorians will most likely back off from the fight. Right now, the Relorians haven't really been wronged enough by tech-users besides the Nyx to get into a war like this. The Loreians will definitely join, as they see technology as an ugly, unnatural thing deserving of destruction. The only reason they themselves use it is because they've been faced with little choice in the past, and find it far more difficult to create things like the AAM ships and AAM fields using their style of magic.
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I'll give my thoughts on my stuff.
False heaven: They'll stay out of the war any way necessary. Actually, the whole station just might portal itself to a pocket dimension during the entire war. Of course, anyone wanting to leave should probably do so before they make this choice. And no, no one will be allowed in.
Novierians: These guys I'm not so sure about. They're allied with the Archive, so whatever side the Archive is on, the Novierians will probably be dragged into it as well. Besides, they will definitely be a target if this happens because they can rebuild planets and civilizations in minutes. That's pretty much saying that no matter what happens, whoever the Novierians are helping is going to get almost limitless production.
Faote and other characters I own: I don't see them getting involved unless it has something to do with them. ={/
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As for my characters...
Addler is Zarethian so he will be on his empires side, whichever that is.
Zakary and Sara are pretty much Zarethian allies so the same with them.
Isaac... Well he is probably more inclined to fight with IC Hik, Lorei, and the Relorians.
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*headdesk* Everyone seems to get that one wrong. What's so hard about it to remember? Lorei. Lorei. Lorei. Not Loria, not Liroa, Lorei
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Grunder Industries Limited- To the highest bidder!!!
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... Sorry. I never even paid them much attention. Hence no remembrance of spelling.
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Hikaru: ....You totally know her stance.
Inari: Sage side.
Echo: Follows Inari, sage side.
Hikari: If she's forced, will probably take sage side.
Rev and Gen....Surprisingly, both. They're children, their rolemodels and thus teachers have been The Archive, The Relorians and the COTS AI. They're made of magic, but at the same time, they have seen the good of both sides, and seek to learn more. Therefore....whenever I get their empire of Zion up. It'll be seeking a peaceful combination of both sides.
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So far it seems war is breaking out between:
1. Aralang vs Sage Allies
2. Logan vs Sage Allies (K2323)
3. Logan vs Archive (By default, considering The Second Organization and The Archive are on the brink of war.)
4. Relorians vs Archive? (Diplomatic relations don't seem too good between these two.)
5. Logan vs Anrufe (See #3)
If the Aralangs and Archive ally, all opposed are pretty much doomed as they have the major resources of both magic and technology at their hands. That would make the war look like something of the following:
Aralang-Archive Alliance, with the followers of The Second Organization and Logan (who feels the war must be fought out for peace to be brought to the universe), Novierians, probably Grunder, possibly Mechera and Zarethians.
I suspect the Lorcar would take advantage of the situation and attack both sides, and the Anrufe might as well. Neutral would be Zion and False Heaven.
Opposing the super-alliance would be Reloirans, Lorei, Hikaru, Koty and his sons, Chal, Inari, Echo, K2323, Kai, Lincoln, and... well, that'd be about it unless the Archive joined this side instead. Now, that's not much of a fighting force, I admit, but there's some things to consider, one being the fact that the leaders of the magic users are made up of top-level sages, including the Sage Three and Koty and his sons, as well as the Relorians who specialize in barriers and AAM.
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I haven't allied myself to anyone...nor have I declaired war on anyone...
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K2 pretty much hit the nail concerning the Mechera and the Lorcar, although the Mechera dont really like the Aralangs, which could possibly result in infighting. The Lorcar would take advantage of the situation...But wouldn't attack them all at once. They'd likely operate on a bandit mindset, attacking whoever seems the weakest from the last attacks, barring the Archive who live in a Black Hole. Thus, it would be VERY possible to manipulate them, if you could give them incentive to finish a attack you cant, or if you just wanna spread your foes thinner.
As for the others...
Hiro's Mercs:Mercenaries, if you pay them, they'll accept single contracts. However, they'd be inclined toward the Archive for the powerful weaponry. By the same coin...Hiro is also somewhat-allied with Hikaru. In the end, it just depends on who contacts them first.
Blaze:He's sure to be allied with the Archive, seeing as he mainly uses technology, and the Sage side doesn't like tech. Of course, he's a bounty hunter...He'll seek near any bounty, for anyone.
Keith&Denera:These will be wildcards. Currently, Keith is inclined towards the Anrufe...And he'll just want to screw with as much as inhumanly possible, to create more and more Chaos. Denera, being in essence his pet, would just do whatever he, who she thinks to be a god, tells her to, and couldn't be broken from his side.
Cero:Im not too sure. While his body IS a Sage...He has no spirit, it having been eaten by his cursed gun's own spirit. So, whether they'd accept him, I cant say. If not, he'll likely just wander the battlefields, killing off any survivors to feed his gun's spirit with the spirits of the dead.
The Reaper:Neither, unless the forces of the Spirit Realm decide to take sides. Basically, unless the judges do. Also, if they take different sides, he'll stil follow orders to collect spirits from both of them, making him neutral unless they both pick the same side.
And...I think thats it. Have I missed any of them?
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What about Lauren?
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Yeah, THATS who I was forgetting! Knew it was someone...
Urm, Im actually not too sure on my little plant-loving necromantress. I've been speculating she might wander Keith's Chaos Warp for a time and eventually join him, but if not, she would probably add her forces to the Sage side in exchange for her being able to hone her magic there...And become able to truly bring back the dead. However, she distastes fighting, so what she would do for them...I cant say.
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the UP will stay out of the way until someone attacks them, and won't fight beyond their borders unless things get serious.
Nova Corp. might side with Grunder.
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Aaaaand I just remembered about Null/Void. Uhm...Well, I dont really know what those would do. Is one side decidedly more evil than the other?
Also, the Elementals would stay neutral. They do like Magi-Craft, and mages might be able to seek refuge on their world...But they dont hate Tech-Craft, either, so the same could be said for them. Upon, of course, the condition that both sides respect and abide by their customs.
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Conventional Aralangs: Eh, they would remain neutral. They agree with Hikaru getting off the hook and being an exception. They want her let go, but the SF doesn't make that easy. If anyone attacks them, though, they would retaliate. I can see the Relorians attacking them, as well as K2, as they don't understand that the ASF are different than the conventional Aralangs. The conventional Aralangs do want the Relorians to understand that the Special Forces are out of their control.
Aralang Special Forces: So far, they're determined to kill Hikaru, and whoever stand in their way. So far, it's the Relorians in the Outerverse, and K2. They're secondary targets, though. Hikaru is their primary target. If they have the chance, they would rather attack Hikaru than those who are helping her. I can easily see the Relorians as a whole going at war against them, as well as K2.
I can see the Aralangs getting involved in a war on three fronts, which all would involve the ASF:
Aralangs vs. Relorians, Archive, and Anrufe
Aralangs vs. Hikaru
Aralangs vs. K2
Though, I don't really see them teaming up together. They take their own separate paths on defeating the Aralangs. Maybe in the end, they would team up, but even then I have my doubts.
I predict that despite the conflict between the two, the Machera would team up with the Aralangs, as well as the Zarethians against the Lorcar.
Handling two wars at once might cause a problem. What would be even more chaotic is that there would be a three-way-war. Meaning, that the Lorcar would take advantage of the situation of the war between the Aralangs and the magic races, and they would attack both sides. I don't see this ending up with the Aralangs teaming up with the Archive so fast, however, as I can imagine the Lorcar attacking the two in such a way, that the two sides wouldn't be involved together.
So, there could be a three-way-war, which would be the Lorcar vs. Aralangs vs. Archive, which would include the supporting faction. Though, it can happen in two ways.
The first way is that the there would be an organized battle, with the Aralangs and the supporting teams, and the Archive and the supporting teams, organizing attacks on two wars.
The second way is that there would be a complete mess, and everything is disorienting, with no organization whatsoever. This way would raise the chance on having an alliance between the Aralangs and the Archive against the Lorcar, as they would be desperately trying to get rid of the nuisance any way they can.
Goodness, I'm making a script here. This would result in K2 or Hikaru, or both taking it the wrong way and turn against the Archive, and there would be a complete mess. There would be three wars, and some factions wouldn't even be involved. Some factions would be involved in a certain war, supporting the Aralangs, or the Archive, but they wouldn't be involved in any other wars. It would be a complete mess. That, my friends is the beauty of Chaos Theory. Oh... Shit! Sorry Hik!
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The Lorcar would certainly pose a threat to all those faction who are fighting each other. They would probably pick off the weakest and steal the worlds while the ships are away.
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Judging by the Confrence of Magic, the Anrufe are now the allies of the Magi Entente (my nickname for 'em) against the Aralangs, Zarethians, and the Mechera.
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Probably not the Mechera. They wouldn't aid a small faction of the Aralangs, only the larger group. And the Mages are gearing up to attack the Special Forces, not the main Aralang Empire.
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Probably the same of the Zarethians, but would the Aralangs attack when their Special Forces group is attacked? The Zarethians are bound in word, that they would aide the Aralangs in a time of trouble. This is a time of trouble. Most of the people wouldn't know what is going on.
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As Gaser has said, the 'conventional' Aralangs dont have control over the Special Forces. Apparently, Leserlake(who Im guessing is the leader or at least a high ranking member of the Conventional Aralangs) wanted to make Hik a exception, and has been supporting the mages, so...
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It still looks like they are being attacked, though. Besides the mage council wants to take over the Aralang government.
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It was suggested that the Aralang government be temporarily secured until the Special Forces were eliminated and the Conventional Aralangs were able to gain control over that branch.
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I suppose Grunder is gonna have to do that
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Any army could...I fail to see why it'd have to be Grunder...
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Secured mentally? Mind controlled? Or Secured against hostages? How would they keep the conventional Aralangs in line if they come and take the government by froce? Wouldn't that look like an act of war by the normal aralangs?
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because im the only outside Military force that has a foothold in Aralia
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True...But then again, that means you could be the cover for smuggling in stronger armies onto the planet for a organized, stealthier strike.
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or i could simply glass the Capitol City
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They're trying to TAKE the capitol, not destroy it. Capturing something is far harder than trying to destroy it.
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aw....
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Besides, you would be destroyed by the Zarethianss once they got a hold of you. They hate it when people destroy others planets. Or in this case, the capitals. They don't like killing innocents.
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...'Course, the Mechera would probably be going 'Niiiiiiiiice' with a thumbs up or something, but thats besides the point. XD
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because they dislike the Aralangs?
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Duh...XD
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By securing I meant more along the lines of sitting down and talking with the Aralangs, making suggestions about how to help them gain control of their government, securing it from power struggle.
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Except for the fact, that K2 in the conference sounds like something you would hear of the stereotypical Al-Queda channel or something.
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Lol one of K2323's best friends is the leader of the Aralangs in this dimension.
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Which he should die for that.
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Hah.
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As for Hikaru's stance on things. She's a bit insane at the moment and basically kidnapped and took Leserlake hostage. Originally wanted to kill ALL the Aralangs not just the SF. But has no plan of action, and doesn't know what she's doing anymore. Again, insane.
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Well, considering she's slowly realizing that killing is wrong (what a shock :P), just got kidnapped, imprisoned, and basically tortured by special forces, gave birth to a baby what, last week?, and is being chased everywhere she goes, of course she's insane.
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You make it sound so fun. :P
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Oh, I'm sure you're having a blast. :P
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Conventional Aralangs won't attack the others for attacking the SF in this case. Though, if they attack the conventional Aralangs, they would side with the SF.
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Tis what I figured.
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Currently this is how the war appears to going to play out.
Archive, Noverians, Relorians, Grunder, Nova, Hiro's mercs, UP's impersomething, Koty/Family, Hikaru/Followers, K2, the remnants of imperial Japae, Rev Gen and the City, and the Anrufe VS SF Aralangs, although if things go bad the conventional Aralangs along with the Mechera, and Zatherians.
The wild cards as I see it would be the Lorcar, and the various unallied mercenaries and entities.
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The seems about right
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Isaac also is on our side, and The Second Organization. And Eli.
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Rev and Gen aren't on your side... yet.
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Oh, that's too bad.
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This sounds like it's going to be either exceedingly one sided, or just a giant brawl.
I LOVE IT.
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The Zarethians could be persuaded to join the mage's side. they use magic a lot.
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I'll keep that in mind, Zak.
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Cero and Lauren are also joining up. :D
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That's quite an army we've got.
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It looks like the Aralangs and everyone are screwed. They're dead. They just don't know it yet.
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AAM is still a damn cheap cop out. This war is getting ridiculous.
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AM is just as cheap.
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AM makes sense. AAM does not. AAM is just because we wanted to be idiots and not think of REAL ways to get out of AM fields.
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AAM Fields negate suppression. I want to know how the suppression actually happens, then we can come up with a more sound way about HOW it negates it. So don't say AAM is cheap and AM isn't.
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It's the best any of us could have done with the incredible lack of knowledge anyone had regarding how AM fields actually worked. You try coming up with a counter besides spirit magic without knowing a damn thing about how AM fields suppress magic.
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It's the best any of us could have done with the incredible lack of knowledge anyone had regarding how AM fields actually worked. You try coming up with a counter besides spirit magic without knowing a damn thing about how AM fields suppress magic.
She did. Nihil.
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Um...The way I see it...Nihil IS anti-magic, in a sense...I never got what you guys mean by it being a solution to Anti-Magic.
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It is anti-magic and AAM all in one. Its basically like magic but it negates magic too.
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But...But...But...If its AM...Then doesn't that mean your in the same situation even with the AAM properties?
HIRO CONFUSED. @_@
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Here is my stance
Ju/Avaron/Ace/Kyle/Perridas/Warrior Humans/Second Organization/Justin/Arceis
They will side with the Sages in the war if merely so the hated abominations of AM fields are gone. They will then turn the Anrufe over to the Aralangs however at the last possible moment in the war so that they are rid of that threat.
Zane
I really don't care about the war actually since it is dull and boring unless of course Pedalo re-emerges on the side of the enemies who use tech and then I myself and my gauntlets will get involved. Too busy defending Elemora.
Vailen - I will fight on whatever side Hikari is on.
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The war might not even happen.
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True enough, K2, but things seem a little... grim on that venture.
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I don't know...