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Title: OOC: Anti-Virus
Post by: Queen Bright on November 20, 2010, 06:40:54 PM
Since when is Koty able to be unsealed whenever he wants to?
Title: Re: OOC: Anti-Virus
Post by: K2 on November 20, 2010, 06:43:24 PM
He's not unsealed. If he were unsealed, he'd be a massive monster of pure Destruction.
Title: Re: OOC: Anti-Virus
Post by: Queen Bright on November 20, 2010, 06:44:03 PM
Unsealed enough to break conservation laws it seems.
Title: Re: OOC: Anti-Virus
Post by: K2 on November 20, 2010, 06:46:40 PM
I see no reason for it to be nulled.
Title: Re: OOC: Anti-Virus
Post by: Queen Bright on November 20, 2010, 06:48:03 PM
He's giving no one a chance! How is one supposed to fight against something that turns all into naught?
Title: Re: OOC: Anti-Virus
Post by: K2 on November 20, 2010, 06:49:51 PM
According to Gaserlake, the virus is some great, powerful anomaly. So, lets see a fight.
Title: Re: OOC: Anti-Virus
Post by: Gaserlake on November 20, 2010, 06:52:43 PM
...Since when the hell did I say that the Virus is "some great, powerful anomaly"? Wow... more and more people are getting confused with my Unstable Saraton Energy.
Title: Re: OOC: Anti-Virus
Post by: Orph on November 20, 2010, 07:00:55 PM
If you'd even pay attention he's using it in blasts, which can be dodged. And even if said blasts hit you, if you say shield yourself with a magic spell, it would take more energy for the blast to render you nonexistent. Which would mean, he'd have to shoot at you again, but stronger. Meaning it can be blocked. :/
Title: Re: OOC: Anti-Virus
Post by: Gaserlake on November 20, 2010, 07:02:21 PM
But the shield would be turned into nothing.
Title: Re: OOC: Anti-Virus
Post by: K2 on November 20, 2010, 07:05:56 PM
And the Destruction would be used, meaning he'd need another blast.
Title: Re: OOC: Anti-Virus
Post by: Gaserlake on November 20, 2010, 07:08:36 PM
Okay? He would just attack in waves of two blasts per attack. Seeing how a single blast can turn anything and everything in its way to nothing, I doubt he would need another blast.
Title: Re: OOC: Anti-Virus
Post by: K2 on November 20, 2010, 07:09:34 PM
I'd advise you to get out of there and figure out how to fight him, then.
Title: Re: OOC: Anti-Virus
Post by: Gaserlake on November 20, 2010, 07:10:44 PM
Oh, yes. Very helpful, seeing how there's two embodiments on my ass. </sarcasm>
Title: Re: OOC: Anti-Virus
Post by: Queen Bright on November 20, 2010, 07:11:23 PM
Orph shouldn't be allowed to turn everything into 'nothing,' kill maybe, or destroy. But nothing? Hell no.
Title: Re: OOC: Anti-Virus
Post by: Orph on November 20, 2010, 09:14:17 PM
He doesn't necessarily turn it to nothing, he just breaks it down to such a point where it is effectively ''nothing''.

If you read the first posts it did actually say that.
Title: Re: OOC: Anti-Virus
Post by: Gaserlake on November 20, 2010, 10:56:57 PM
So... what's to keep the blasts from breaking down any shields and going through to the target?

Plus:

[19:57:49] Gaserlake: Well..
[19:58:01] Gaserlake: Obviously.. you can't beat an embodiment of Destruction in a fight...
[19:58:06] Gaserlake: plus..
[19:58:09] Gaserlake: with Fate on his side..
[19:58:15] Gaserlake: it can be said that we're DESTINED to lose
[19:58:18] Gaserlake: which is bs.

Even though he's partially sealed, it would still be pretty hard to beat him, because he's still an embodiment, nonetheless. And when Destruction teams up with Fatet? Yeah... Basically, it's a message saying: The Garelang Virus is destined to be destroyed. In other words, it's not a matter of if, it's a matter of WHEN the Virus gets destroyed. It shouldn't be that systematic.
Title: Re: OOC: Anti-Virus
Post by: Nisorin on November 20, 2010, 11:35:01 PM
I hate to say it Gaserlake, but when you make something like your Gareleng virus, it's not a question of IF it'll get destroyed and/or beaten. It's 'when.' Something like that would threaten numerous empires and smaller, independant organizations such as Hiro's Mercs. Hell, it goes on long enough, even the Magnificent Mages might join in.

And even besides that, it's two beings, albeit powerful, against a virus that adapts to everything. Play it smart, and you'll not have a problem.
Title: Re: OOC: Anti-Virus
Post by: Gaserlake on November 21, 2010, 01:59:50 AM
I'm sorry. I didn't say it adapts to EVERYTHING. Even if it DID, it would take time to fully adapt and even use it to gain strength. Another case of having to attack all at once, but... two embodiments? That's pretty much automatically using overwhelming force. Plus... it WOULDN"T be a matter of 'when'. It SHOULDN"T be. There should ALWAYS be a chance that one would succeed.
Title: Re: OOC: Anti-Virus
Post by: @Pokemon Master Red on November 21, 2010, 02:07:10 AM
To be fair, Gaser, you've had them adapt to the cold of space, which shouldn't be physically possible, as there literally is NO heat in space...If not everything, damn near. :/
Title: Re: OOC: Anti-Virus
Post by: Gaserlake on November 21, 2010, 02:08:22 AM
Maybe by... oh, I dunno... by making the Virus use itself as a sufficient heat source? There is SOME heat in space... NO heat means absolute zero, which is theoretically IMPOSSIBLE.
Title: Re: OOC: Anti-Virus
Post by: @Pokemon Master Red on November 21, 2010, 02:12:13 AM
It'd take longer than what your saying, though...Virus are small, and while adaptable, it usually takes a long time, like a couple months, to adapt to something. I was exaggerating when I said NO heat, but there still isn't enough for a organism  that otherwise wouldn't have survived the cold of space. That isn't even adapting, that much of a change is freakin' evolving...
Title: Re: OOC: Anti-Virus
Post by: Gaserlake on November 21, 2010, 02:14:59 AM
Magic is used to create the Garelang Virus, so it doesn't really need that long to adapt. Plus, even without magic, it can still adapt quickly. The reason why we can't adapt to heat or coldness IRL is because we can't actually tell our bodies to do so. The Garelang Virus can. And... hard to realize that you didn't mean to exaggerate, when you used the word 'literally'. Evolution is basically going from one species to another... The Virus remains one species.
Title: Re: OOC: Anti-Virus
Post by: @Pokemon Master Red on November 21, 2010, 02:18:09 AM
Never said I hadn't meant to exaggerate...And you were saying that it takes some time for that to happen earlier in this. By your own logic, there's nothing stopping the Garelang virus from 'adapting' to the power of destruction. As for the fatet stuff, we've already had a character defy fate before...Who's to say you cant as well?
Title: Re: OOC: Anti-Virus
Post by: Gaserlake on November 21, 2010, 02:29:42 AM
Well... seems to be that breaking down everything to the point that it is effectively nothing? That doesn't sound like anything that one can biologically enhance against. But... seeing that magic IS used to make such a Virus, I suppose it CAN adapt to it, and I guess it can defy fate. Yes... it is an anomaly... but I didn't mean it in such a way that it would stand a good chance against two embodiments, though... but I may be wrong, because the Virus is partly magical... That's the only way I see that can stand a chance against the embodiments.
Title: Re: OOC: Anti-Virus
Post by: Orph on November 21, 2010, 04:06:06 PM
One thing I never understood about the Virus? How can it produce and control magic? Other species require a soul, or a weave. A virus doesn't have either. Another thing, to adapt to cold, or heat. It's going to need more matter of some kind, it can't just poof it out of nowhere. Even if it is magic, materialization isn't a novice spell in the first place.
Title: Re: OOC: Anti-Virus
Post by: Gaserlake on November 21, 2010, 04:19:51 PM
The Virus isn't a novice. It's older than Hikaru, and is more familiar with magic than Hikaru. Though, that doesn't mean it's as powerful as Hikaru in magic. It's just that it has lived with magic longer. So... it obviously shows that it's no novice. A soul or a weave is merely an organ to produce magic. The Virus can act as its own soul or weave and produce magic.
Title: Re: OOC: Anti-Virus
Post by: Orph on November 21, 2010, 04:33:54 PM
That sounds stupidly overpowered. A microscopic little thing can use produce magic and use magic, even when it takes Sages years for their soul to be able to produce energy capable of anything you know..cool.
Title: Re: OOC: Anti-Virus
Post by: Gaserlake on November 21, 2010, 04:45:38 PM
Yes, and the Virus is THOUSANDS of years old.
Title: Re: OOC: Anti-Virus
Post by: Orph on November 21, 2010, 04:47:22 PM
Yes, but they have a soul that is thouuussaaands times the size of a single virus particle.
Title: Re: OOC: Anti-Virus
Post by: Nisorin on November 22, 2010, 12:34:24 AM
Aye, one Sage made up of trillions of cells, versus a cloud of hundreds of trillions of virus particles.
Title: Re: OOC: Anti-Virus
Post by: Gaserlake on November 22, 2010, 12:47:20 AM
You multiply that number by the number of infected hosts, add that to the hundreds of trillions of virus particles in the cloud, then you cube it, then you might be a quarter of the way there. Lol.
Title: Re: OOC: Anti-Virus
Post by: Queen Bright on November 24, 2010, 10:14:14 PM
Been 3 days, no ones bothered to argue. We win OOC fight?