Shattered Planes Archives (Seasons 4 & 5)
The Board => Archive => Void => Topic started by: Orph on October 02, 2009, 01:07:44 PM
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Name: Abel
Age: Due to his nature he has a multitude of ages.
Race: Due to his nature he has a multitude of races.
Alliance: Me, myself, and Jim.
Biography: Abel was born a normal human being within a parallel version of Earth, it was slightly more war-torn but it was rebuilding. It had yet to be visited by the Aralangs, or the Guardians, hell it was one of the few version's which had yet to be contacted by any other parallel entities. Until the Aralangs showed up, they had been pursuing an incredibly violent species. It was basically a large virus, capable of infecting all living, or non-living matter. And reproducing itself it various forms. And thats what it did, through many versions it destroyed all life, leaving an empty void filled with nothingness. Until it met those Aralangs, who put the fear of beam weaponry into it.
Chased it across the multi-verse, only to have it end up in Abel's version. It had gained a foothold, and try as they might the Aralangs couldn't shake them from the version. So, to stop it from advancing, they destroyed the entire universe. Carrying only one surviving child with them on their massive Sajuuk. That child was Abel, but when they were in the boundary between parallel universes something happened. A singular viral atom had stowed aboard the ship, and started wrecking havoc. The ship ultimately exploded, within the boundary of the universes. The massive explosion, virus, and chaotic dimensional sea all had a hand in changing Abel into what he was now. It changed his right arm into the one true weapon, the one true way to kill a entity. Abel later learned that the arm worked by exploiting the base connection between the multi-verse he could absorb the soul and spirit of every living creature through contact with his right arm, as well as it's parallel counterparts.
Leaving them dead empty husks, and him filled to the very brim with a godly amount of energy, knowledge, and personality's. But due to the nature of the multi-verse the arm had to compensate for most of the S&S absorbed. If there was a personality excessively similar to on already absorbed it would be overwritten. This prevented Abel from overloading with other people's energy. But still due to the massive amount of spirits within him Abel is a bit unstable. But years living with the burden has granted him some power to control it. He absorbed his counter-parts. Leaving him with all his own knowledge, as well as his personality's. Making him on equal ground with the arm. He never truly switches from his personality to a total strangers, just his to another one of his.
( Alright, the arm absorbs a person's soul and spirit as well as everyone of that person's parallel counterparts. Leaving Abel with all their knowledge and personality's, but the arm compensates by overwriting the more similar ones. And he equaled the grounds by absorbing his counterparts. Leaving him the only one of him. Making him unique. This also grants him a large amount of energy. Near god level after he has absorbed a person or animal. But this doesn't last long, since he has to vent most of it or be destroyed. Abel also compensates by "storing" most of his knowledge behind codes in his mind, when he is done thinking of a particular subject he locks it up. And when he wants to think of another he unlocks it. This is to deal with massive knowledge power. Oh, and its a skeleton arm. :D )
Personality: Abel's a bit odd, he changes from his own personality to his counter-parts at random times. But his own is the alpha, the one in control. He only usaully changes when very fatigued. He is actually a kind person, using his arm only to kill the most dangerous of people. This sometimes includes Aralang leaders, due to the parallel standing. But he is also very clever, having taken a great deal of knowledge and experience from many people. So, to put it simply. He's a bit odd, can be kind or mean depends on his mood, and is extremely intelligent.
Weapons: His right arm and whatever he can lay his hands on at the time.
Equipment: Clothes, various gadgets and doo-hickeys, and candy.
Magic Level: 5 (If he has unlocked the magic code in his mind, can't use both at once.)
Force Level: 5 (If he has unlocked the magic code in his mind, can't use both at once.)
Appearance:
Everyday appearance, forget the scythe though. D:
(http://i962.photobucket.com/albums/ae107/Ararus/cf8e0135892fec3ab4cd3d86a46aa762.jpg)
Easier to see arm.
(http://i962.photobucket.com/albums/ae107/Ararus/a639386cf65e0075.jpg)
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I was surprised when I read the bio. Sure, I'll allow that. I got a question, though. How did Abel survive the explosion from a Sajuuk? Also, the arm would only give Abel a very short amount of time before the near god level effects wear off.
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It was a gigantic fluke, he was infected with the virus, and due to the creational nature of the sea, and the massive release of energy from the explosion it kinda changed him. They all had a hand in almost killing him, and changing him into something more. And yes, I already stated that. But he'd only have to vent a most of the energy to live. He'd still have a large amount though.
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Well, I don't see anything wrong with it, though the 'near god like' bit is pushing it, I think. While the previous GE's may have been godmodding/Nyxmodding fests, I'd rather this one not be.
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If he was infected with the virus, he still is. Nobody, not even the Aralangs know a cure for the disease. Also, the Sajuuk's blast would be enormous. I have to agree with Nisorin, actually, though there should be some strict rules about this, if you still want near-god-mode level. First two is that it will last for a very, very, short amount of time. The second is that it takes time to be at that level.
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Gaser, this isn't the Beast I'm talking about. Its an extinct viral race, as for the amount of time to reach it no. That wouldn't work with the arm, but for the very short amount of time with that amount of energy I agree to that, but he'd only need to vent some of the energy to avoid dying. Just enough to stay alive, but not enough to make absorbing someone a waste of time.
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Oh, sorry. The Beast and your virus are so similar. Meh. Back to my plans with the Beast, then. Anyway, how did you survive a ship the size of a planet blowing up?
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The nature of the dimensional sea is to create not to destroy, so it saved him.
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Then wouldn't the Sajuuk survive in the first place? If not, then it would become a paradox.
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His arm is is an anomaly, you can't explain how it happened, just the factors that might of had a hand.
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Fucking edit button.
As for the virus, he is still infected it is just in a dormant state. And will remain so until I want it to. :D
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So wait, an infected child, with an infected arm, caused a ship the size of a planet to explode, to survive an explosion, in the dimension space that has a force that resists destruction? Uh, wouldn't that go a bit too far for the arm's power?
Also, as far as I understand from the bio, the arm can be near god level after absorbing just an animal or a person? That is going too far.
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As I had stated, he has to vent it very shortly afterwards otherwise he'll die from basically an overload. And no, he didn't cause the explosion. The virus did, the arm is an anomaly. The sea could stop it, but it is just energy. No force behind it to guide it and control it, he survived due to the virus. Which was sentient, and his own will. Both put together willed each other to survive. The arm was just an after effect. And the virus is now in a dormant state within him, Abel is keeping it so with his own will.
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Hm, that would make for an interesting character plot. Every so often, or not so often, he could come close to losing control over it, but wrest control back before the virus has a chance to do anything.
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And since the Virus it is sentient it would be like being possessed, or having split personality's.
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Energy does not require guidance to be effective. It would be more effective if it was guided. A dimensional sea would be very effective, due to its pureness, and amount of energy.
Also, it doesn't matter if he has to vent or not, being near god level from just absorbing an animal or a person would be too effective. Being near god level for a nanosecond is long enough for someone that powerful to cause a lot of damage, as someone in god mode would require literally no time at all.
Ok. How did a virus and a person survive an explosion that is equivalent to a very tiny, but nonetheless, a nova. A nova is a star going off. You would have to survive the exploding force, the waves, and the heat, which would resolve as disintegration.
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Yes, yes, as I said. His survival and such was an unexpected happening. You can sit here all night and punch holes into this character, but I could do the same with Gaser's profile. And as I said, I said NEAR-Godlike meaning he is basically five and a half on the magic scale. Hell, and if you don't think I could handle such a thing I have been playing with a God as a main character for basically my entire RP career. And I always left shit open for my defeat, never once in all my fights with K2, Hikaru, and others. Did I ever use the power like an idiot, hell K2 beat me a few times.
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If you left things open for its defeat, it wouldn't be in god mode in the first place. My character has more mysteries than plot holes. If there were plot holes, it wouldn't be a big as Abel's.
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Exactly, if things are left open they are not god modding. As for the plot holes Gaser has many, and Abel's are just because he is an anomaly, and you can't exactly place how that happened.
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Hell, and if you don't think I could handle such a thing I have been playing with a God as a main character for basically my entire RP career. And I always left shit open for my defeat, never once in all my fights with K2, Hikaru, and others. Did I ever use the power like an idiot, hell K2 beat me a few times.
You said that you played god characters, yet what you also said contradicts what you said. You don't even know what you are talking about.
And you did not refer to my explanation of how Abel wouldn't live.
And nonetheless, there are still plot holes in Abel's.
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Well, it wouldn't be fun if I just vaporized them in a instant.
And of course, everything going to have plot holes. Either get over them or get out of the business.
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Though, it will be best to cover as many plot holes as possible. Also, what would be fun is watching all of the planets blow up in an instant, but I can't do that, nor can this plot hole. Now, we can fix this plot hole, as it is better to fix it than leave it.
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I have a better idea. Just say he's still trying to find out how he survived. Problem solved.
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Lol. That seems pretty straight forward. Let's say that the dimensional space's creational energy can't maintain the Sajuuk, but the explosion. Even though the energy can't keep the Sajuuk from blowing, it can still change the result of the energy of the explosion. The creational energy kills everyone but Abel. Just before the explosion disintegrates Abel, the creational energy turns the explosion into a huge portal. Abel then finds himself critically injured, but survived, and sees the debris around him come, as they go into the portal. Abel still doesn't know what has happened, then?
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Nah, since the creational energy cannot do things to that extent without a conscious force behind it. Which I intend to be the virus, since it is a sentient life form. Since it was inside Abel it had to save him, and by doing so saved itself. But the strain of using the creational energy left it dormant.
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Wait. The virus has mercy in it to save Abel? That is one hell of a twist plot, but it makes things even more interesting. So you mean the virus manipulated the creational energy to save Abel and itself? I approve that.
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Or simply the desire for self preservation. If it's inside Abel, and Abel gets blown to hell, the virus also gets blown to hell.
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Exactly, the Virus is the last of its kind. If it is destroyed then it's kind is destroyed, so it saved Abel and therefore itself.
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The only problem I see is the near god mode thing. From just a person or an animal? It would require much more energy than that.
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The only problem I see is the near god mode thing. From just a person or an animal? It would require much more energy than that.
This and the fact that you can simply kill someone with your arm. Those two raised big red flags for me.
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Animals? No, since me making a NPC animal just so I can absorb it would be pathetic. As for the the energy problem it isn't just absorbing that person, its absorbing him and everyone single one of him within the multi-verse. But as I said, Abel cannot stay within this state for to long, he would die. And you can basically kill anyone with anything, this is just a different method. Hell, you can kill someone with a regular arm, just put enough force behind it.
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I agree that you can kill someone with a regular arm, but the part of absorbing everyone in the multiverse? Too powerful for a size of an arm.
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Power isn't always limited to size, Gaserlake. A crystal the size of a marble could very well house enough power to completely vaporize a universe. Or, it could be a powerless little rock.
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A crystal the size of a marble able to vaporize an entire universe is god modding. Really, you can't compress energy, since it has no mass. But where does it have the power to absorb that particular person from every universe in the entire multiverse, in the first place? No, forget that question. How much energy does it take to do it? Infinite, as there are infinite universes in the multiverse. Infinite energy is definitely god modding.
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You assuming that it takes infinite energy due to the vast amount of universes, yet since everyone is connected to himself it wouldn't. No, you can compress energy BECAUSE it has no mass. If it had mass you wouldn't be able to compress it due to it having mass.
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Even if it did have mass, you could still compress it. There would just be a limit to how small you could get it. Energy, because it has no mass, can be compressed as small as wanted. To compress something just means to make the same amount of the something take up less space.
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It would still take infinite energy to do so, as it would still need to use some energy to get a copy of the person, even if the copy is connected to the person. Thus, if you do it infinitely, you need infinite energy. Abel, you obviously do not understand physics. Diamonds have been made by compressing carbon. If you have no mass, you take up no space, thus you can't compress it any smaller.
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Say you've got a 1 square foot plate of sheet copper, that's one foot wide by one foot long. You charge it with five coulombs of electricity. Then, you cut the sheet in half, and force the electricity from one half onto the other. You now have the same five coulombs of electricity spread about a smaller space, and so it has been compressed because it is the same amount of electricity, but spread over a smaller space than it was originally spread over.
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Which he gains, if he absorbs one person's energy he has enough to absorb the next and so on. It would take less energy to absorb energy then he gains.
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Nisorin, I don't understand your example.
Also, it would take a heck of a lot of energy to interact with another universe, making all disappear. But here's the problem, too: Time. It would take an infinite amount of time to get all the universe. You can't do it all simultaneously, as that would take infinite energy to do so. If you do have energy to do a billion in one time, it would still take infinite time, as there are infinite universes.
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By doing this Abel gains infinite energy, but as he would die that way the arm overwrites the energy on to itself. Since this isn't energy but the people's souls, and if they are to alike they a basically discarded.
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I think I can help out here.
Based off the theories used in hyperspace and other FTL Drives used on the game, as well as Net (a K Empire experiment), there ARE infinite amounts of universes out there, but only a handful are parallel. The others are pure energy of some sorts, which is what the energy from subspace is gained from. So, with that said, if you were to randomly pick another universe, chances are it wouldn't be one with life or matter, simply energy..
With that being said, it wouldn't take near infinite energy at all to do what Abel's arm is doing. Even if there is a great amount of energy being used, we mustn't forget that these are other universes. For all it matters, the arm could create a bridge of sorts linking several parallel universes with energy ones, and pull energy from the energy ones to absorb all of the given personas into one before feeding it back into this universe and destroying the bridges.
The only problem with this bridge statement is eventually energy would pour into these alternate universes, so to prevent ripping the fabrics of the universe and destroying us all, Abel would have to use the arm very little.
But the bridge probably isn't even needed.
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Saying that there are infinite universes means that there are infinite types. You have infinite parallel universes. If there is a random number generator, that randomly chooses a number between 1 and a million, 999,999 parallel universes are created, which have a different number as a result. We are in one that has a number that the other 999,999 doesn't have. Then, we have different reactions from different people, from the number, and different numbers they were guessing, which already goes into trillions of parallel universes. Some do the random number generator again, making another universe where they don't. A million times a million is a trillion, thus trillions of universes are created. Some do the generator, again, and again, and again. It's a chain reaction, leaving to infinite amounts of universes. There are some universes where they spend the rest of their lives doing the random generator, thus every second 999,999 universes are created. If they do it for the rest of their lives, every second, until they die of thirst from the addiction of the generator, quadrillions of universes came from just one universe. Think of the random number generator as what everyone does in their everyday lives. Some quit their jobs, some slack off. You may say, "This just means that there are countless numbers of parallel universes, not infinite." Not so, as some universes are infinitely old, and there's another thing. Let's say you are having a test on your reflexes. Let's say you react in .2 seconds. Infinite parallel universes are created. Why? Just do the math. I'm thinking of a number between .2 and .3. It's .2384765836385638367583765. Reaction time can be just like that. .2, then another universe it's, .21, then .201, .2001, .20001, .200001, .2000001, and so on. There are quantum smudges, making it so that you can't tell the exact location, or the exact time, but there are universes that don't have that, allowing to tell the exact time it takes to react, which would make infinite universes. Parallel universes are one of the first steps to creating infinite universes. It wouldn't make sense to have infinite universes and not infinite parallel universes.
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tl;dr
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You guys do realize he's been approved by two admins already, aye?
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True, but I'm trying to make my point here.
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And it doesn't matter, so shut your face fat.
8D
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After rereading the thread at Gaserlake's permission, I've seen that I missed something during my first read. We have not placed any usage restrictions on Abel's arm. Due to that, the arm is indeed god-modding since it can kill a PC in one post.
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You assuming I'm going to do this.
"Abel grabbed Nisorin and drained his soul, insta-killing him."
Everything can kill in one post, but we leave each other time to respond. Which I intend to do.
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You assuming I'm going to do this.
"Abel grabbed Nisorin and drained his soul, insta-killing him."
Everything can kill in one post, but we leave each other time to respond. Which I intend to do.
Which is why I approve.
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It is hard to believe that you can give the person time to respond, especially since you have enough energy to absorb that person from every universe, and it would give you near-god level power. You don't need to say that you have insta-killed him. How can he react, if you absorbed him?
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He reacts by dying, just like someone who got shot in the head reacts.
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Actually, if you shoot someone in the neck, they can't react, as the spinal cord is broken. So, you are saying that he can react by dying, thus killing him in one post, thus insta-kill. No.
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Its a insta-kill if they don't react when I give them the chance, I'm not going to say. "Abel grabbed him, then absorbed his soul. Killings him."
More like.
"Abel lunged forward, keeping his skeletal hand outstretched towards the neck of Jim, hoping to suck out the bastard's soul."
See the difference you cock munch? Now stop being a complete tool.
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Lol, fail. Your second sentence only takes place before the absorbing begins. I am talking about the absorbing.
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They'd have their damn souls out of their bodies, they'd be dead. And I don't see how you are all whiny about this, since you used Pure Energy beams which did the same damn thing. So get off your high horse you ass.
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That's my point. They would be dead. Also, you clearly don't know about Pure Energy.
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Yes, people die when they are killed, did you just figure that out?
And a insta-kill is a kill in a single post without any time to react. Which is what my first sentence did.
And yes I do, it was a beam that fire at infinite speed. Once fired you could not react, unless it was dying.
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Ah, but your second post is irrelevant. Of course, you would have trouble trying to get the arm to a person, but I'm talking about the absorption itself, when the arm DOES get to a person. Also, since people die when they are killed, this makes the arm god modding.
You are clearly lying. We obviously cleared up the situation, making the speed go down to the speed of light.
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Also, since people die when they are killed, this makes the arm god modding.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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If people still live when they are killed, the arm wouldn't be god modding, as the victim would still be alive.
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Yes, because people dying when they are killed is sooo god modding.
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Yeah. I mean, insta-kills are so god modding, especially when people die. Just make the absorption process last a few posts. Also, we haven't cleared up about absorbing infinite people, as you would be absorbing them from infinite universes. It would take an infinite amount of time to absorb them all. If you go at infinite speed, that would be god modding.
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First off, it would take a few posts to absorb the entirety of the people. But the moment the absorption proccess starts the first person is dead, since it starts with him. As for the infinite time, this goes with with other shit. Abel doesn't go infinite speed, but since the energy doesn't even need to go anywhere. It transports to him, by using the connection that everyone has with their self. It would be moving to itself, without taking time. Think of it as the energy going through worm holes, which are rips in space. Leading to places to each other. Basically a short cut.
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If you take in infinite energy at once, you will die from uber overload of energy, instantly. It would take infinite energy to bridge infinite universes. Also, you would not gain or lose energy, as you will use energy to gain energy. You will lose an amount of energy, to get an equivalent amount of energy. Yet, you would lose energy altogether, as you used energy to bridge the universes, and to open up wormholes for inter-universe travel.
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If you take in infinite energy at once, you will die from uber overload of energy, instantly.
The energy vents as well as the spirits over-writing each other.
It would take infinite energy to bridge infinite universes. Also, you would not gain or lose energy, as you will use energy to gain energy. You will lose an amount of energy, to get an equivalent amount of energy. Yet, you would lose energy altogether, as you used energy to bridge the universes, and to open up wormholes for inter-universe travel.
These things already existed, as they are the connections between yourselves. Therefore nothing is really used.
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So, you will gain nothing, if you vent the energy. Also, what you said it my point. Nothing is used, thus nothing is gained.
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Nothing is used because the connection is already made, therefore nothing is used.
As for the venting, only enough not to kill him. He vents when his limit his reached, and he also has the spirits overwrite each other.
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But, the infinite energy would come at him AT ONCE, meaning at the same time.
He needs energy to use the connection, though.
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Ok. I'm fine with the fact that he only gets finite energy, and that he gets it from another host. Abel's arm can be his host, but only if Abel does not control it. And the only way for that to work is to have the arm have a mind of its own, probably from the virus.
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Which actually works in my plot for him, and since the virus wants Abel to succeed. Since if Abel dies, it dies. It'll do what is in Abel's best interest.
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Ok. Lastly, how much energy can Abel draw in, before the arm loses energy, or Abel can't hold any more energy, whichever comes first? How long does it take?
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Enough to make him a lot stronger, lets say maybe..
Enough to put him on par with Koty, for a short time anyway. But since Abel doesn't have Koty's divine power, just enough to hold his own agaisnt him if Koty went full crazy on him.
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But hang on. That would make Abel lvl 6, so I say only use it in events. And how long does it take to put him on par with Koty?
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Around ten posts at most before needing to vent, and no. Since well you just approved a level six character with no strings attached.
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I would approve lvl 6 characters, only if they are used in events. I would approve Abel's absorption ability only in an event, and I say 1 absorption, as Koty is pretty powerful.
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Please show me where it says that the arm is immune to physical damage. If it's on here, sorry if I challenged it.
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No you find it.
I'm lazy.
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That's exactly what I thought you would say. Anyway, you didn't put in that the arm is immune to physical damage. I used the search, but the only thing that mentions the word 'physical' in this topic are my posts, and they are both on this page.
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Well it is.
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Well, there shouldn't be complete immunity. There has to be a limit.
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Nope, completely immune to physical damage.
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Just checked every post. You never did mention it in the topic.
However, it would make sense to the immunity; What's someone going to do, chop it off, melt, or disintegrate it?
It'd make it too easy, if the arm has so much power from his back story, then it would have to have complete immunity, or it'd fuck his whole character up.
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Well then his arm should only be able to be used in events. Because of the fact its over powering as it is now.
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Shut up Kai.
No, it's used whenever I feel like it should be used.
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Still over powering, you basically can just say oh it can be used now, and I'm not going to shut up. Because I'm tired of your bullshit over level 9000 fuckin characters, when you say people's level 5's are too over powered. Kthx
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Not overpowered, unrealistic, a sixteen year old wouldn't have that level of power.
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Yeah and an arm that can absorb people when ever the owner chooses and is immune to physical damage of any kind is soooooooo realistic.
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It must first make physical contact, without that it's just an arm.
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It can only be used in events, which was what I declared with my approval. Besides, there needs to have physical damage. Otherwise, throwing it at a sun would give it no scratch.
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Exactly, it cannot be destroyed.
And having things used in events is well fucking retarded, seeing as we do not have events. It's used whenever I fucking feel like it.
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Then Abel isn't approved therefore you can't use him at all.
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Lvl 6 is only used in events. I consider the arm's ability to be a part of lvl 6 of Abel, therefore having the arm's ability to be only used in events. More specifically, I only allow it to be used once in every event, though, I'm reconsidering that restriction. There are plans to have events, too.
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Actually, since this was my first character requested on this GE, and since Nisorin had already approved it. You're not even needed, I've already conceded that he gains a finite amount of energy. Since Abel is already approved, his arm is immune to damage and can be used whenever I wish it to be used.
So, blam.
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Nisorin can revoke his approval, as he didn't know about the arm being immune to physical damage.
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But as he has not, it's approved.
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While I did not know about the physical damage immunity, it still leaves a great deal of possibilities for how to destroy it, even for you Gaserlake. I am not revoking my approval, and so Abel stays approved.
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Such as? EST's physical. I doubt it would be powerful enough to use it, though. Sajuuk? Nope. Physical damage. Saraton Energy (previously known as Pure Energy, but meh) uses physical damage. Even some magic would use physical damage. One way is to morph it, but that would be damaging it in a way, so I wouldn't be able to morph it. Another way is to make it fail to exist, but that would be godmodding. If I chop it off of Abel, it would still have a mind of its own, and would most likely make the virus in it active. Though, chopping it off isn't destroying it, and it would be pretty difficult to chop it off of someone like Abel. Another way is to convert it into energy, but that would also damage it in a way, so that wouldn't work either.
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Orph.
http://shatteredplanes.com/index.php?topic=29.0
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prototype_(video_game)
@ First sentence in plot, first sentence sound familiar?
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No, not really.
I get what you're trying to say, but I hadn't played Prototype in over like seven months and had sold the game by the time I made this character.
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Doesn't change anything. Abel is Alex, just not in America.
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Not really, the only thing they have in common is the Virus and the absorption. And even then they are different, Alex is just a virus, Abel's arm is basically a sentient virus in a coma. Then the absorption is different, Alex absorbs body mass and memories, were Abel absorbs spirits and entire minds, this means Alex remembers stuff, while Abel has literally infinite amount of people in his head, along with practically all the knowledge of the universe.
And hell, if I did derive this character from Alex it was entirely my subconscious' fault. Since I hadn't played or done anything regarding the game in nearly a year.
So suck it.
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If you honestly think that saying "suck it" to me will help you better yourself in our "relationship" you're wrong, so go fuck yourself.
Second of all, you were obsessed with that game and Abel was on CE as well, in which you made him over the summer, the same fucking summer you bought Prototype. You derive every damn character off of one already made and slap a different name on it. I'm not stupid. You're just trying to find a way to keep Abel, you don't even seem to be using him anyway and this character already had problems and accusations before. You just want to keep him.
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Actually Abel wasn't on CE, soo yeeah.
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GE then. I remember RPing with him.
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Nah, made this character for this site. :D
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Mkay smart ass, doesn't really matter because you're in contact with both Alex and Abel.
Stop ripping off characters idiot.
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Watch it Aristotle, or you'll be getting your second warning.
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Calling the character out for one thing.
You said he can absorb all the parallel copies of someone. And in the chat, said this means every race, as someone might be of a different race in a parallel parallel universe. That's unfair. As it would mean you'd have access to every race, even the ones you don't control of, since they could have been part of it in another parallel universe. This makes it unfair to us that create and play races, as it means you have access to everything about that race just by saying you absorbed someone that could have had access.
This makes it to where we can't have the race have secrets from their ancients, have things passed down, or even specific magic only to them. Because you have access to it all. I don't think when they approved the character, they really thought about that. It limits us as storytellers for our races.
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Hikaru brings up a good point, and to accentuate, I've brought the chatlog.
kivith (8:01:23 PM):Lets say Abel absorbed Jim.
kivith (8:01:44 PM):In an infinite amount of possibilities, there is one universe where Jim was paxan.
kivith (8:01:56 PM):Or Leader of the Anrufe.
NekoHikaruChan (8:02:02 PM):Then that's godmodding its self.
kivith (8:02:02 PM):Or Kaleb's brother.
kivith (8:02:06 PM):No.
NekoHikaruChan (8:02:08 PM):Yes
Yes, this is indeed godmodding, because Abel would have access to every last bit of information from every race, whether they've been made or not.
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Precisely what I am calling him on.
Read the tournament topic where he fought me. He absorbed EVERY copy of Jeffrey and turned them into that energy when I tried to break free of him. That is godmodding.
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In itself, if he were absorbed the other copies of him, he should no longer exist; his arm absorbs ALL Abels by that means...Even the one doing the absorbing. Therefore, he would have deleted himself from existance, by that logic. I think.
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Hawkeye, that's not what we're discussing. What we're discussing is the acquisition of information, not the use of what he has available to himself in battle.
Hiro, if the arm absorbed Abel, the virus in Abel would be destroyed, and it's rather obvious the virus doesn't want that.
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All Starclan knowledge?
No!
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No what, Hawkeye?
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Doesn't matter what the virus wants if the power specifically absorbs every single one of that person's existance, right? From reading it, I dont think he has the power to change its ability to only absorb specific dimension's beings, instead invariably absorbing all of them.
Right? If thats just innane babble, please lemme know. >_<
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See what he did is use his skeleton hand to absorb every copy of Jeffrey and all their knowledge with it. Plus he transformed the souls and spirits into a large energy blast which he used against me. Bad form. I disapprove even though I can't.
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Hiro, it was a combination of the virus and some very messed up events that created the arm. I'm fairly sure that, should Abel try to use the arm against the virus, it will intervene. For the other bit, I'm not sure what you're talking about.
Hawkeye, that's not bad form. That's using your opponent to destroy your opponent. It's no different from stealing an enemy ship, and using it in battle against them.
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I agree. This is godmodding. If Abel absorbed one person, just one, he would have infinite knowledge. Infinite parallel universes means infinite possibilities. Infinite amount of possibilities means infinite knowledge.
Plus, since there are infinite possibilities, there would be a possibility of having the virus turn on Abel and absorb all parallel Abels, therefore having Abel's existence contradicted.
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No, since there is only on Abel, there isn't infinite possibilities for every single absorption, that doesn't even make sense.
As for the knowledge thing I thought I told you that, while he has all the knowledge he had to lock it away inside his own brain to make sure his own brain doesn't implode on all the knowledge, it takes an incredibly long time to unlock a specific memory or subject as he has to go through literally thousands of "locked doors" inside his own mind. So even if he has the knowledge, accessing said knowledge is incredibly difficult.
Plus he has no knowledge on things that no one in the multi-verse knows, so basically he has all MORTAL knowledge, he wouldn't know all of God's secrets or Lucifer's secrets etc.. As no one in the plane would no that, even with infinite possibilities.
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He would still have all our races secrets. We couldn't have anything passed down or closely guarded as you 'd know it all. Such as the TPF.
And locked doesn't do anything. OOC you can say it and get it approved. But IC, you can just decide whenever he unlocks it, thus making that useless.
NekoHikaruChan (8:02:02 PM):Then that's godmodding its self.
kivith (8:02:02 PM):Or Kaleb's brother.
kivith (8:02:06 PM):No.
NekoHikaruChan (8:02:08 PM):Yes
kivith (8:02:13 PM):As he is limited to his access.
kivith (8:02:22 PM):He may have it.
NekoHikaruChan (8:02:23 PM):Then he still wouldn't know.
kivith (8:02:25 PM):But it's locked away.
kivith (8:02:39 PM):I can easily unlock it.
kivith (8:02:41 PM):and access it.
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And I don't see how there is only one Abel, if there are infinite possibilities.
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I agree with everyone on this one Orph.
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He destroyed those infinite possibilities by absorbing himself. Pretty much he's every Abel.
And the easily part was a bluff, I like messing with people.
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Either way, by the first person he'd absorbed, he'd have a form of omniknowledge, which is Goddmodding. Doesn't matter if he cant easily access it, the fact is that he actually CAN.
Plus, what of the possibility of another of him fighting off the him that tries to absorb the others, or a him that has the arm but decides against absorbing the others? If he went to absorb every other one of him, he'd be on a endless journey, as there is a endless number of possibilities. Unless, of course, he absorbs them all at once, to which he'd also absorb himself and thus delete himself from existence.
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You didn't read HOW he absorbs people do you? By absorbing one he absorbs all of them, therefore he absorbed himself, except since the virus/arm needs the specific him to survive it didn't absorb him, so he's technically the only Abel there.
And so does Koty, seeing as he is one of the two beings that can be called God, as could Eli. It's the fact that they do not use it, neither would Abel, hell by the time it takes for him to access the knowledge a man could read up on that and learn all about it.
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Then the TPF CAN be approved.
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No, the TPF was disapproved for different reasons then Abel's arm is coming under questioning for.
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Dude, it DOESN'T MATTER HOW EASILY OR HARD IT IS FOR HIM TO ACCESS IT. He still CAN without having ever placed himself in real danger or working to get that knowledge. I dont care if it takes him five years to get it, he still CAN get it without doing anything but absorbing a random person off the streets who in another life may have been the freaking King of the empire. It doesn't matter how long it takes, since he would still be able to get it! He would be Omnipotent by that way.
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You didn't read HOW he absorbs people do you? By absorbing one he absorbs all of them, therefore he absorbed himself, except since the virus/arm needs the specific him to survive it didn't absorb him, so he's technically the only Abel there.
What about the other Abels and the other viruses refusing to be absorbed? And how would Abel and the virus prevent themselves from being absorbed? There's infinite possibilities. If it's possible for Abel and the virus to not absorb themselves, then it is possible that another pair did it before you did. In fact, another pair might have absorbed your Abel before he even got the ability to absorb.
For the unlocking thing, if he can unlock a knowledge, it's godmodding. His mind is basically a book that shows how to defeat everyone, that needs a key to unlock it. Abel has the key.
Another thing that I'm not sure about is the fact that you can decide when virus becomes active. That would be metagaming. There would need to be something to make the virus active. I think we already talked about this. If we have, sorry. I must have forgotten.
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The virus will become active if anything that would make it active makes it active.
And since Abel was the only Abel that entered the sea made him unique, there are no other virus/Abels. Not really, it just shows the possibilities, but as I said, the length of the method of unlocking it would take would be slower then actually learning it.
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That doesn't matter, if he can learn it without going through the necessary steps to otherwise do so.
And consider this:He went into the sea. There are more than one possibility after that, however. There is the possibility that he would black out, another that he found stay perfectly conscious, another that the virus would have already dominated his mind, ect. There cant be just one, since his going into the 'sea' would make yet more possibilities to possibly happen. As soon as he went into the sea, more possibilities, and thus more Kiviths happened.
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Yes, but it doesn't matter, as the possibilities that occurred as Abel's arm, and he killed his other selfs and absorbed them, that was the possibility that happened.
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By the logic your using about that, with other possibilities creating other dimensions, that creates yet more possibilities that also happen, as in other Kiviths winning and destroying yours. So thus, he cant have absorbed all others, unless he absorbs himself, which would mean that he no longer exists.
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He did absorb himself, I fucking said that. All other hims are in his brain, he is the ONLY Abel. But the Arm/Abel didn't die due to the virus unable to absorb itself, which is a part of Abel.
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Ok I know I'm a wee bit late but still...
If Abel aabsorbed himself but he couldn't die due to virus and arm resisting then how did they all stay in his brain? How did they all not die? Why is this SOB omnipotent like some other characters kivith seems to have...?
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To my knowledge, Abel has never absorbed himself. I'm not sure where you're getting that stuff from. If I've missed something, please do let me know.
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He destroyed those infinite possibilities by absorbing himself. Pretty much he's every Abel.
About as easy ta miss as a barn door with a nuke, Nisorin. XP
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Absorbing his other selves, not the Arm/Abel, I've explained how they stay in his brain, and none of my characters are omnipotent. They are powerful, but even Koty can be killed.
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Actually, this one has the extreme potential for omnipotence. He could easily have the powers of (almost)any being, by absorbing their souls.
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Abel can only absorb their minds and personalities, he cannot mimic their powers.
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No more so than any other mage anyway.
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...Well, then why's Legion so powerful, if he operates off of the souls Abel once collected?
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He's basically one-thousand Sages.
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...In the body of a being normally incapable of magic.
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Only due to their lack of a soul, now he has one thousand.
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Humans have souls...Unless you mean Soul Organs, which numerous beings can use magic without, and to which if that is so, they wouldn't fit in the human body.
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Humans have souls...Unless you mean Soul Organs, which numerous beings can use magic without, and to which if that is so, they wouldn't fit in the human body.
No. Humans have spirits.
On this RP IRL concept of soul = spirit.
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...Then Soul means only the organ? If thats the case, there's no way in Hell he could've stuffed them all into a human body, and even if he did, it still wouldn't connect to the organs and blood vessels inside it...
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MAGIC!
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No. Humans have spirits.
On this RP IRL concept of soul = spirit.
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Soul=spirit?
Same thing then.
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No, Kivith. I ain't taking MAGIC as a answer. Explain. Now.
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MAGIC!
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No. Humans have spirits.
On this RP IRL concept of soul = spirit.
Soul=spirit?
Same thing then.
NO.
In real life, the concept of soul, is what goes to heaven and hell when you die.
In the RP, that's the spirit.
But because K2 totally screwed it up when I created soul contracts. (Originally the concept of soul in real life.)
He for some stupid and pathetic reason made it into an organ for magic, and now we have the
soul = organ, on the RP.
So for him using souls, he means, the organs.
For humans? When you say soul, it should be spirit.
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...And thus, it cant be fitted to a human body. I demand a explanation, IN THE NAME OF REASON!
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!CIGAM
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MAGIC. CANT. EXPLAIN. EVERYTHING. DAMNIT.
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Soul=Organs... What!? That makes no sense!
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Soul/Organ when it goes in. = Energy when it goes out.
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...Objects can only take so much energy, you know...
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...Objects can only take so much energy, you know...
Which is why they have to vent it, or so Orph says.
I don't know, ask him to explain how the magic does it. Then he can't just yell magic.
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MAGIC!
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Actually, he's said no such thing about Leigon.
*POP GOES THE RUSSIAN*
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Orph has not given any real reason for this other than 'MAGIC!' and theat quite frankly is being a duche with a nigh-omnipotent character.
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Abel has to vent the energy, Legion does not as he cannot absorb people. Due to his lack of the awesome arm of awesome. Seriously do you guys even read half the shit I post? And derp, the soul is a tangible thing. With MAGIC it can easily be shaped/compressed. Hell Legion doesn't even have working organs, seeing as he doesn't need to eat, breathe, poop, or anything along those lines. Don't get me wrong, his brain is working, but it's powered by his magic.
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What do you mean 'derp, the soul is a tangible thing'?! In most things the soul can't even be seen/felt/or even recognized! Somehow in this RP soul translates into organs, which that right there is a major WTF?!
Anyway, the point of theis discussion is not about LEgion (cheap as he is) but about Abel, the nigh-omnipotent person of doom who can and probably will kick lots of ass in a fight because of sheer cheapness.
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Sure he's powerful, actually very powerful. But he's not omnipotent, nor even close to it. While absorbing a person gives him a large dose of power it's both temporary and dangerous for him to do so, as it adds onto the more personalities in his head and increases his madness, and if he doesn't vent the energy it would lead to his death. His arm only work if it makes contact, AANNNNDDDD it's the only part of him that indestructible, if you even looked through such I've had to retreat with Abel before. There's just specific ways of attacking him that would be useless. But also has a large number of weaknesses, just learn to fucking look.
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Riiight, totally, I know how to 'fucking look' and if you and I don't stop this will be more aflame war than a damn discussion.
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BUTTFUCKING TOAD JINGLES
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... I'm not even going to dane a real response to that.
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Quite frankly, the fact that the arm is the indestructible part makes it all so very much more powerful. If he's coming at you with that arm, there is no way-aside from MAYBE deflecting it, knowing you-to really stop him, as most people dont know said arm is unkillable, and thus would shoot IT, not the host.
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OR YOUR COULD FUCKING MOVE
WITH YOUR GOD DAMNED FEET
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And with magic, Abel would be able to pull people to his arm from a distance. So, why is Abel godmodding? Orph explains it all.
MAGIC!
It's true. Abel can do many things with magic to manipulate this ability to his own advantage. With magic, he would probably purposefully make the virus active, which is metagaming. With magic, he would also be able to expand his capacity. The more energy he absorbs, the stronger he is. The stronger he is, the bigger the capacity. I'm not saying that everything that's absorbed is in him. But one absorption would let him have a capacity of energy equivalent to 10 people. The next would be 20, then 40, 60, 80, 100, 200, etc. Then it would be a point when it wouldn't matter whether Abel can absorb infinite amounts of energy or not. It would be a point when Abel has enough energy to be godmodding.
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It's funny because I've never INTENDED do use him as such, and it's god modding to do such a thing. As they wouldn't have a way to get out. Thee thing is.
If it's fucking god modding, I wont use it. This isn't you guys yelling at me because the character is god modding, but because it has the possibilities to god mode. WHICH EVERY FUCKING CHARACTER HAS.
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Not really. Only overly powerful characters are really able to godmod. Take my Zarethian character Addler for exapample. He has a lv 3 magic. He could totally godmod somebody who is level 5.
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You just get a guy killed, then absorb him. You can also use absorption as a WTFOMG discipline among the members of the Archive, considering how crazy Abel is.
Every single character has a chance of godmodding, but your character has a RELATIVELY SIGNIFICANT chance of godmodding.
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Yes, but that would be going against Abel's personality, even though he's insane he wouldn't just go around killing people like Darth Vader.
Annnd so the fuck what?
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Wouldn't Abel go crazier, as he absorbs more?
He would still get a person killed and absorb him. After a major battle, he would just have the bodies dumped somewhere, so he would be able to absorb each of them as he pleases.
Annnd so the fuck what is that I'm calling godmodding on this one. The other characters can do all their abilities without being godmodding. Here, your abilities would make your character freaking powerful out of nowhere.
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Yes he would, but as I said, this would go against his personality. And if need be he can rid a lot of the voices in his head by using their spirits as energy, meaning if he goes too crazy he can fix that. But it would also remove a lot of the info stored up in his brain. You're looking at him as a power-hungry asshole who goes around absorbing every person he meets. The entire time I've had him he's absorbed two people. One was an NPC and the other was Jeffery. And still he has to do something to get said power, it would be god modding if it just fucking blam he's powerful. But no he has to get within arms reach and make contact, by that time anyone smart enough would've either tried to fucking kill him, or moved. And don't give me bullshit about how Hawkeye tried that, Hawkeye fails. He saw that his attack did not work AND basically threw himself onto my characters arm.
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Which personality? Mind, the fact that he has so many voices would be degrading on his sanity ANYWAY, and so he would be slipping from all of that. Merely getting rid of the voices wouldn't reverse the insanity, you know. It would just slowen it.
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And either way, crazy peopel can't really control themselves. They are crazy, a fit of hysteria.
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He would be powerful almost instantly. He's fucking absorbing every single parallel person there is. That would be allot of power. He would be almost as powerful as a god. Yes, he vents the energy, but just enough so he won't die, yet be powerful at a maximum level.
I KNOW HE HAS TO GET WITHIN ARM'S REACH! IF SOMEONE WAS EXPECTING A HAND-TO-HAND COMBAT, A SINGLE TOUCH ON THE ARM, AND THE PERSON IS GONE!
If he goes too crazy, he wouldn't be sane enough to fix it in the first place!
How would using spirits as energy remove the knowledge you gained? Also, you would just save the knowledge on a piece of paper, or on a harddrive.
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I don't say he's godmodding.
Though I still question his existence for the reason, races can't keep secrets, and things passed to only ones of their kind, because he'd already know them all.
THAT, I have a huge problem with.
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And, of course there's the popular 'we dont know that he'll kill us IC by touching us' which is WHY we wouldn't just dodge ever attack he hits us with using that arm.
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Well, if you saw a dude running at you with his arm outstretched AND said arm was a fucking skeleton arm. Wouldn't you be a bit paranoid about the fuck is about to happen?
And I've already explained that, to access that knowledge takes an incredibly long time. So long in fact it would be far more efficient to learn it fucking normally. And he doesn't let himself get that crazy, and writing it down he would have to access it. WHICH TAKES A SHIT LOAD O TIME.
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I don't see how it's just only people and animals that the arm can only absorb. I don't see what restricts the arm to only absorbing organic material. If Abel wants to, he can just absorb the table, and all of the parallel tables with it, before he enters battle. Or, he could just absorb a body that's lying in a heap of bodies. If I know I have the ability, I would take advantage of it. So, the fact that he knows he could do these things would make his personality change, and become greedy and power-hungry.
I would just think that Abel has a WTFWEIRD arm. You know, like necromancy gone wrong.
You would need to unlock the thing and shit, yes. But before the voices get to you, you would gain knowledge. And how would you know? He only experienced it twice. Only 2 voices. It will be the first time Abel would go mad from voices stuck in his head. He wouldn't know what to expect. He doesn't know his threshold. If he absorbed someone, and got allot of power, he would have enough power to keep himself from going insane, but once that power is gone, he would be VERY susceptible to insanity. It would be too much.
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That is just presuming that he would, and it's because it absorbs souls and spirits, last time I checked chairs don't have spirits you ass.
Still would you let his gross skele/arm touch you? I know I wouldn't, I don't want necroaids.
Heee's absorbed more then NPC and Jeffery, but those are the only ones I've killed while I've used him. And Abel currently has a large but finite number of voices in his head. Most of which are just parallel versions of himself. Plus he's a level five Sage, he always has a large amount of power.
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Name: Abel
Age: Due to his nature he has a multitude of ages.
Race: Due to his nature he has a multitude of races.
Alliance: Me, myself, and Jim.
Biography: Abel was born a normal human being within a parallel version of Earth, it was slightly more war-torn but it was rebuilding. It had yet to be visited by the Aralangs, or the Guardians, hell it was one of the few version's which had yet to be contacted by any other parallel entities. Until the Aralangs showed up, they had been pursuing an incredibly violent species. It was basically a large virus, capable of infecting all living, or non-living matter. And reproducing itself it various forms. And thats what it did, through many versions it destroyed all life, leaving an empty void filled with nothingness. Until it met those Aralangs, who put the fear of beam weaponry into it.
Chased it across the multi-verse, only to have it end up in Abel's version. It had gained a foothold, and try as they might the Aralangs couldn't shake them from the version. So, to stop it from advancing, they destroyed the entire universe. Carrying only one surviving child with them on their massive Sajuuk. That child was Abel, but when they were in the boundary between parallel universes something happened. A singular viral atom had stowed aboard the ship, and started wrecking havoc. The ship ultimately exploded, within the boundary of the universes. The massive explosion, virus, and chaotic dimensional sea all had a hand in changing Abel into what he was now. It changed his right arm into the one true weapon, the one true way to kill a entity. Abel later learned that the arm worked by exploiting the base connection between the multi-verse he could absorb the soul and spirit of every living creature through contact with his right arm, as well as it's parallel counterparts.
Leaving them dead empty husks, and him filled to the very brim with a godly amount of energy, knowledge, and personality's. But due to the nature of the multi-verse the arm had to compensate for most of the S&S absorbed. If there was a personality excessively similar to on already absorbed it would be overwritten. This prevented Abel from overloading with other people's energy. But still due to the massive amount of spirits within him Abel is a bit unstable. But years living with the burden has granted him some power to control it. He absorbed his counter-parts. Leaving him with all his own knowledge, as well as his personality's. Making him on equal ground with the arm. He never truly switches from his personality to a total strangers, just his to another one of his.
( Alright, the arm absorbs a person's soul and spirit as well as everyone of that person's parallel counterparts. Leaving Abel with all their knowledge and personality's, but the arm compensates by overwriting the more similar ones. And he equaled the grounds by absorbing his counterparts. Leaving him the only one of him. Making him unique. This also grants him a large amount of energy. Near god level after he has absorbed a person or animal. But this doesn't last long, since he has to vent most of it or be destroyed. Abel also compensates by "storing" most of his knowledge behind codes in his mind, when he is done thinking of a particular subject he locks it up. And when he wants to think of another he unlocks it. This is to deal with massive knowledge power. Oh, and its a skeleton arm. :D )
Personality: Abel's a bit odd, he changes from his own personality to his counter-parts at random times. But his own is the alpha, the one in control. He only usaully changes when very fatigued. He is actually a kind person, using his arm only to kill the most dangerous of people. This sometimes includes Aralang leaders, due to the parallel standing. But he is also very clever, having taken a great deal of knowledge and experience from many people. So, to put it simply. He's a bit odd, can be kind or mean depends on his mood, and is extremely intelligent.
Weapons: His right arm and whatever he can lay his hands on at the time.
Equipment: Clothes, various gadgets and doo-hickeys, and candy.
Magic Level: 5 (If he has unlocked the magic code in his mind, can't use both at once.)
Force Level: 5 (If he has unlocked the magic code in his mind, can't use both at once.)
Appearance:
Everyday appearance, forget the scythe though. D:
(http://i962.photobucket.com/albums/ae107/Ararus/cf8e0135892fec3ab4cd3d86a46aa762.jpg)
Easier to see arm.
(http://i962.photobucket.com/albums/ae107/Ararus/a639386cf65e0075.jpg)
*Ahem
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He's mentally the multitude of races.
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So this ones a Sage, physiclly.
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So, he has absorbed people before, then. That means he must have gained allot of knowledge.
Uh... WTF was with Alice in Wonderland, then? What was with Pinocchio? BOOYAH! CONCRETE EVIDENCE! CARDS, SPOONS, ETC. EVEN A TALKING DOLL! Btw, I was mentioning tables, and you mentioned chairs. Fail.
This is hand-to-hand combat. OF COURSE THERE WILL BE PHYSICAL CONTACT! AIDS is an STD. Unless I have sex with that arm (which would be a hell of a way to go, considering what would happen if I touch the arm), you and I won't have AIDS. Of course, there would be other ways to get AIDS, but the arm is skeleton and only skeleton. Also, I though the skeleton was robotic. Meh. So, where is the virus, then?
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Alright, look. Even close-quarters combat you'd dodge attacks. And yes, unless you're completely friggen retarded, you'd dodge a skeletal arm rather than block it no matter who's it is, unless YOU'RE the reason why it's skeletal.
You say it's godmodding, but Orph has put in adequate safeguards, both with the character's personality, his control over the other personalities, and how the arm itself works. From each absorbtion, he gets a one time use, large burst of energy. If he doesn't use it, he dies. What's so godmodding about that?
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You cant dodge every attack, and chances are in close quarters combat, he'd block with that arm being as its indestructible. In close-quarters combat, you wouldn't have a chance of defeating him, since he'll use that arm for every block, and since its impossible to dodge everything sans being the DC superhero Flash(or any other being with super-speed), he'd get you eventually with it unless you purposely exit close combat, which could be taken as metagaming considering our characters might not know about the powers of the arm, and thus wouldn't have any reason to play keep away.
And no, actually, in reality if I didn't know what the arm did, I would assume that he'd done that for use of his arm and hand bones as a form of claws and with better flexibility. By having a skeletal arm, you wouldn't have your own muscles restricting the movement of it, so it'd be faster and easier to use, and he could potentially have sharpened his own fingers into a claw. I would try to dodge it, yes, but more out of the same reason you'd dodge a guy coming at you with a axe, not because I though it'd have any supernatural ability(aside from being a skeletal arm, of course).
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I agree with Hiro, in that even if it was a skeleton, most people here would not know IC, unless you had past expirance with fighting his arm, that you must dodge his arm or be destroyed. And either way, the more people he absorbs the crazier he gets, right? So he wouldn't really have any control over himself in a real sense and more of a halucinagenic control if anything.And he has absobed plenty of people, if not in the actual Rp, then in his backstory.
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Yep, he's insane but also has his own personality backing him up, and Sages are far, far strong mentally then Human beings are. A regular Sage with schizophrenia would most likely be the same as a normal Human being, in mind control thingy wise.
Annd so the fuck what if they don't know? If you die it's your own damned fault.
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Riiight, totally our fault that our ignorance about a skeleton arm (where such things may be considered normal if not for Abel's ability) that can SUCK YOUR EVERLASTING SOUL OUT OF YOUR BODY IF YOU TOUCH IT. So totally our fault.
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Yep, that's why you research your damned enemies. It's fucking idiotic to just charge blindly at a guy.
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Not everyone's heard of Abel. Kinda makes it hard to research somone you haven't heard of.
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Yeah, escpecially when a lot of the peopel who do know about him are absorbed by his freaking arm.
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Similarly, not everyone's heard of the Lorcar.
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Yes but his arm is more of a threat. He could absorb Kai, K2323, Hikaru, Koty, Rogue, Vincent along with all the embodiments/incarnations on the board. Not to mention that now he possesses StarClan power to some extent thanks to that arm which of course is annoying to me.
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He could, if they get hit by it. The thing is, you guys are all focusing on what it does, but you don't bother to think about what it takes for him to use it. Yes, he touches you he can absorb you. But he has to:
- Get close enough to touch you.
- Not get hit while trying to touch you.
- Actually successfully get more than just a glancing blow.
- As I'm sure the process isn't instantaneous, he'd have to keep contact while absorbing.
- Once he's actually absorbed you, he's got to vent the absorbed energy quickly to prevent harming himself.
That's a fair list for such an ability, and makes it almost as dangerous to himself as it is to those he attacks with it. Even if he does absorb you. And not only that, you also forget just how rare CQC is on this site. Most people use guns and magic, very rarely do people run up to their enemies and slash at them with a sword, or swing a mace at them. That makes it even more difficult.
Edited to fix typo.
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Similarly, not everyone's heard of the Lorcar.
True, but they're horrifying in and of themselves, and they actually need to kill you first. Its pretty clear their intentions as soon as you see them zerg-rushing you while eating your family as snacks. His arm? Sure, its grotesque, but it wouldn't instill a massive sense of terror in you if you didn't know what it did already.
As for Nisorin!
1st point:Actually, I happen to enjoy close-combat to a degree. Im sure I ain't the only one.
2nd:Im sure its not hard to block with something incapable of being destroyed.
3rd:Perhaps, though the fact that there isn't anything restricting its movement makes it far more accurate.
4th:This has never been stated. He'd need to get confirmation on that matter. That being said, again, its indestructible. Probably not easy to remove if he gets a grip on ya.
5th:I hardly see Kivith worrying about this...He'd probably just get it over with.
And again, while Hiro will probably not follow this, I prefer close-combat. Its not gonna be as rare with me around here, most likely, and Im sure that there are others as well who prefer such a fighting style.
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As far as I have seen, you are the only one. The rest of us prefer to use our magic rather than our swords (or in Iroku's case, fists.) And how hard it is to block depends on Abel's CQC ability, what attack he's blocking, what weapon is behind the attack, Abel's tolerance for pain, and the attacker's martial skill. And yes there are things restricting its movement. Clothing, any seals his opponent may place on him (or the arm specifically), the bones are shaped to move in certain directions only and must be either broken or dislocated to move in other directions, which would indeed be painful for him. And it doesn't really need to be stated, as it's rather obvious to prevent godmodding. He is, after all, absorbing a person AND his/her parallels.
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By all means, I dont see how he'd feel pain in said arm, as there are no nerves...Its only bones...
And using magic is not exclusive of close-combat. What, you dont think anyone's (IC, and not our characters specifically) ever lit their sword on fire or made it so their lance can freeze people when stabbing?
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They're usually too busy standing away from their foe, firing off spell after spell to counter those spells coming at them, and attacking with spells of their own.
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Well, Abel has limits to WHO he can absorb as well. He can't absorb embodiments or Koty, since they are Divine entities.
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As far as I have seen, you are the only one. The rest of us prefer to use our magic rather than our swords (or in Iroku's case, fists.) And how hard it is to block depends on Abel's CQC ability, what attack he's blocking, what weapon is behind the attack, Abel's tolerance for pain, and the attacker's martial skill. And yes there are things restricting its movement. Clothing, any seals his opponent may place on him (or the arm specifically), the bones are shaped to move in certain directions only and must be either broken or dislocated to move in other directions, which would indeed be painful for him. And it doesn't really need to be stated, as it's rather obvious to prevent godmodding. He is, after all, absorbing a person AND his/her parallels.
Not only what Hiro said after this, but he is insane. And that means he won't show the same types of emotions, responses or even pain resistance. Many insane individuals cannot feel pain even though their nerves work. Even if he can't absorb any divine entities, he can absorb anyone within reach. Also the process of absorbing somebody may not be automatic but it will probably be fast and Kivith has yet to say anythin'.
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Glancing blows wont work, requires at least a second of hard contact.
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A glancing blow I wouln't have thought about anyway, but a second of hard contact like, say punching somebody would lead to their being absorbed.
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Yep.
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Nisorin, Aralangs use weapons and tech for ranged combat, yes, but they also do melee combat as well.
For countering spells that were used against Abel, he wouldn't need to. He would just block them with his arm. He won't feel pain. They are just bones. Even if he does feel pain, I doubt he wouldn't need to worry, as he is indestructible. I doubt that even if it had nerves, his arm wouldn't feel a thing, as it's indestructible.
Research enemies? There are stories about monsters and beings that kill all, and there's no survivors... Where would the story come from, if there are no survivors? There would be nothing to research. All we would know is that people disappear without a trace. No bodies, no blood, nothing. We wouldn't know how it happened, we wouldn't know if the cause is either a machine or a person, or some deity. There could be witnesses to it happening, but I doubt they would be safe, if they would be near Abel. There would be the Archive with him, too.
If you would be able to punch someone, you would certainly be able to hold onto them. You would gain more distance with your fingers stretched out, than with a fist.