Shattered Planes Archives (Seasons 4 & 5)
The Board => Archive => Void => Topic started by: Queen Bright on March 24, 2011, 06:55:12 PM
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His mother's making him sever all ties with us. Whether or not it works or not, we can only wait and see. But the prospect isn't looking good, she said he wouldn't have a computer in his room, and he's being sent away, etc. Claimed he wouldn't be getting back online. I don't know if he agrees with this or if he intends to use the one thing he has to his advantage. But he's not answering home or cell number
So, I'm going to assume we'll be saying our farewells.
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Damnit....
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I have both house phone numbers (they unplugged them) and a cell phone number which goes straight to voicemail. Do we assume he's agreeing with his mother and we won't see him? Or do we assume she's just being a real bitch and we might see him again?
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I think we're going to have to assume that his access will be limited or completely nulled. If you see this, Gaser, it's been a great time. I'll miss you, friend, and hope we will cross paths again someday.
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Aw, man, made of fail...D:
As much as I sometimes disagreed with his tech and tactics, Gaser's always been a awesome person around here. Hope he'll be able to be on, even if for greatly lessened periods of time.
And if ye be reading this, Gaser, I hope you'll have more internet access in the near future and stuff.
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New updates! Gaser called from a different number (I won't specify) but he's not even home. His mother is the one controlling everything.
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I dunno about the rest of you, but Hikaru and myself will be standing at his side whenever possible. I may have had personal differences with him, but no one deserves treatment like this. His mother needs to be taught a lesson, and I'd be thrilled to take her on as a student.
If you would like to help, please email us zipped copies of any chatlogs you have with him, we may possibly be able to use them as evidence against his mother's testimony should this come to court.
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Same here.
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I really doubt this will go to court, and I certainly hope it will not, as several of us would possibly be called to testify.
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It might.. I mean she did call our whole community cyberbullies.
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:/ I really hope not
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Wow.... cyber bullies? That's retarded as shit. We all fuck around with eachother.
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New updates, he just called. He might be where he is from 3-5 days to a week, no specific timing. But even after that, his mother is still bent on keeping him away from us. He has no idea what's happening at his home.
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Police searched his computer... we might find ourselves having to testify...
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Called again today. He said his mother's gonna isolate him from us...
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Damnit Regina.... I swear if I get a fucking subpoena.....
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And now relatives of Gaser are monitoring SP.
Gaserlake (75.49.206.224) 09:21:13 AM Viewing the board index of Shattered Planes.
Jeeeeeze. CAN I PLEASE BAN? That is seriously breaking our friends privacy. I don't care if they are cops and adults. Do you think Gaser would want them snooping around SP? As private as he tries to be? Doooooooooooooooubt it.
BESIDES! Nisorin and I are adults to. I believe age 20 gives us more than enough rights to tell them to fuck off SP.
AND ALSO! Whether they're a relative or the police. Compromising a fellow staff members account? They may as well have hacked it for all we know. That IS a bannable offense.
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This mess is getting out of hand.
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Hawk just let us handle it.
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Yeah... ALRIGHT! So who's up for a road trip to California? K2 and Nisorin can drive, and Lyoko and I can go for secrecy of busting him out of that place.
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Lol I'm down. XD
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Should we use Hawkeye as a decoy? He belongs in the Psych Ward anyways.
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Sure! I'll pick him up on the way to Phoenix. XD
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Guys. Let's not make the situation worse. None of us want to end up in court.
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I'll GLADLY go to L.A and Testify. You didn't hear him on the phone last night, he left a voicemail nearly crying. Although the above roadtrip was a joke..
But if I could get a ride there just to explain everything... Dammit. It sucks being a state away so powerless when one of our best friends is going through something like this... We can't even talk to him...
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Heard from him again...
He said his mother said we keep calling the police? I did no such thing. He figures it was a lie and so do I. But... if anyone DID, please don't. We don't want to escalate this situation even more than it is...
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Um seriously... Are we just going to let his relatives use his account? That.... is compromising a staff members account. What if they decided to take down our community? We should either tell them to register their own account, change the password, or de-admin him...
I mean, relative or not, it IS using an account that does not belong to them...
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Look. At least they're making an effort to try to talk with us.
Now I'm sure we all appreciate you tryin to reach out and talk to us, but at the same time you are compromising site security...
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It's STILL hacking an account. Even if my own grandmother signed on with my account, I'd call out hacking and compromising a staff account. They can just register, do you honestly think Gaser would want them on his account if they're the reason this all happened? Password changed for now.
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This post was removed earlier:
Hello Everyone. I am a close relative of Francis. I have traveled out
to help with this situation. I am very reluctant to post on this site
but I may be able to help you help Fran and possibly others.
First let me say that the most important issue is Fran's health. Right
now he is struggling and we are (his family) doing our best to help
him.
All roll playing has the potential for ill effects if those involved
are not mentally equipped to establish a demarcation between fantasy
and reality. Role playing can be a good thing in the correct venue as
it allows the imagination to flourish.
Frans problem arose, not from role playing, but from interaction with
certain members on the site who have influenced him with their
questionable behavior.
I need to set a few things straight.
This vilification of Frans mother must stop. She loves him dearly and
has been by his side with love and support his entire life. I know,
that does not sound like the same person that you have heard about.
But it is true. She is not perfect, nor are any of us, but she is
doing the best she can in a very difficult situation. Any suggestion
that she has abused Fran is ridiculous.
Frankly, the abusive behavior has come from some on this site. Hang
ups all night long, and angry messages littered with profanity left on
the answering machine. I also have a very abusive email to Fran from
one of you that, yes, could be considered cyberbullying. What parent
would not be irritated with such behavior. What parent would not
advocate discontinuing participation.
The blatant disrespect for adults, law enforcement, and each other
that has been displayed by some here has resulted in the development
of very destructive behavior in Francis. I'm not blaming the site,
but the irresponsible behavior of a few is a major contributor to his
current situation.
It was posted from Gaserlake's account, which is why it was removed. To the relatives of Francis, I must ask that you understand our reservations about this whole situation. We encourage an open dialogue between you and our community, but please register a new account to continue these talks. Francis' account is his own, private account. It is a staff account, and as a matter of security, we have changed its password.
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He didn't call today... Worried...
As for the Roleplay.. Gaser's characters are important and they are his characters, until he has returned any plots we were in I'd say we should pause. Including the Congregate topic. Besides... to continue without him wouldn't be the same...
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Good Lord.... I've been gone for a week... A week! And this is what happens?
Great, well, whatever this is, I'll stand by Gaser. I always did like him.... This site isn't always the most civil of places but we are no bullies. We are friends and as much as we mess with one another, we're always willing to help out in times of need. I live a bit farther than Hik and Lyoko but if by chance I can help we can always do a video chat or something.
Look, to whomever is reading this but is not part of this site, whether you be relatives of his or cops, WE ARE NOT CYBER BULLIES. I cannot stress this enough and if we can all get this straightened out we can figure out what to do. I don't know what exactly set this whole incident off but Shattered Planes has a very close-knit community for those who stay. Hik, Gaser, Nisorin, Hiro, Hawk and K2 are the longest staying members and though they argue, they send heated E-mails, they are certainly not enemies nor are they bullies.
This is the internet. We are entitled to out opinions here and that's where the arguements come from. Everyone has them and its certainly not limited to bullying. Families, friends and all other social groups have them. Its not abnormal, nor is it any cause for accusations of Cyberbullying.
I'm just really sorry it came to this.
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Another night he didn't call..
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Im sure he's alright Hikky. We're all worried about him.
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Well... They got him...
I called back the hospital after not hearing from him for 3 days... . "He's under order by his doctor that he's not to talk to anyone but his family. If you want to speak to him you'll have to work it out with his mother."
What now? What can we do?! If he really is still suicidal and just wants to get back to us... Then the hospital won't release him till he 'gives in,' and calms down. But we know Gaser, he probably won't given in.. So that will loop, and .. we might never see him again! He may never get out if that goes on!...
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They can't hold him forever, they wouldn't have the equipment to keep someone on such a long term as that.
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It's not fair... It's FUCKING NOT FAIR! For HIM OR US!
Is this what she wanted? Is this seriously what his mother wanted?!! To cut off any friends he has?
They even cut off his cell phone, it says the person isn't available, won't take any voice mail....
I hate this....
I HATE BEING SO FUCKING POWERLESS IN THIS SITUATION!
All the hospital lady said was, "You have to talk to his mother, you have to talk to his mother, I can't say anything or even give a message. You have to talk to his mother."
She's effectively cut us off from him and isolated him from everyone but family....
And you know what? I don't fucking care if his family sees this message anymore... THEY CAN ALL FUCKING DIE! Except the father. He's the only damn one that seems to even care what Gaser thinks or wants. The mothers and uncles though? I hope they burn in Hell.
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You're just upset. You know as well as I do that they both care at least to some degree, otherwise they wouldn't have let him on at all to begin with. He is in the hospital. Yeah, it'd be best for him to talk to us at least a little bit, because we help him calm down, something his mother was, as far as we knew, failing at miserably. But, he's in the hospital. We're not going to get ahold of him if his mother refuses to allow it. Maybe if his father calls them, but I don't really find that likely considering international long distance rates.
There's a lot we still don't know about the situation. We've only heard Gaserlake's side, with a tiny tidbit here and there from his uncle. I've offered a civil discussion but apparently no one seems interested in taking up that offer. I'm not going to harass them over this, despite the fact that I want Gaserlake properly back on his feet just as much as you do. Just about all we can do right now is sit on our hands and wait for something to happen. Anything we try to do right now will most likely be considered harassment or more cyberbullying, the latter of which is absolutely absurd and everyone involved knows it.
If you want Gaserlake to come out of this even mostly unscathed, you need to calm down and control yourself. Use your frustrations productively, channel them into something useful.
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How about writing "Mrs.Aylwad" on a piece of paper and throwing knives at it? :P Good way to take out stress. And not a threat, just a way to relieve anger.
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But yeah, I can't take this waiting. THERE MUST be something more we can do. Petition the courts? Contact CPS with our evidence ourselves? ....Get a plane ticket to L.A? I looked it up.. it's only $117 to L.A and back, and I have that much. It's just a matter of finding my way once I'm in Cali... Only time I've been there was Disney Land.. :-\
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It's over. Everything's fucking over and useless now.
She's getting a restraining order from him contacting any of us.
We're apparently all he's got, yet she does this....
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Appeal it.
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If you look at the Brightside, he can get rid of that in a year... but that still sucks.
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She left a message on my home phone (Don't know how she got it.) But it's filled with lies, saying I harassed her and her son. I haven't personally listened to it yet, but my sister told me it when I got home today.
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Yo hikky... you got her E-Mail?
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Good lord that woman is persistent. Well, we can surely do something about that.
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Her email?
angelaaylward@sbcglobal.net
There's not much we can do about a restraining order.. except, it has to be filed by the 'victim' and in the state of the 'harasser,' apparently. Like.. she can't get one in her state and have it work, she'd have to call the court of the offending harraser's state and have it setup, then attend a court hearing....
So maybe there is a way to fight it...
Can a parent get a restraining order for her child against the childs wish?
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Guys, if you email Mrs. Aylward, please be respectful and courteous, despite how frustrated you must all be. We don't want to prove her right.
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Why should we? A restraining order, K2? To go this far? When we didn't do anything against Gaser and in fact have heard from him that he wants to come back? I don't fucking care what she thinks at this point.
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Why should we? A restraining order, K2? To go this far? When we didn't do anything against Gaser and in fact have heard from him that he wants to come back? I don't fucking care what she thinks at this point.
If we're disrespectful towards her it will only fuel her thought that we are a bad influence on Gaser.
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I'll play nice guys... I did with the voicemail didn't i?
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Voicemail?
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Why should we? A restraining order, K2? To go this far? When we didn't do anything against Gaser and in fact have heard from him that he wants to come back? I don't fucking care what she thinks at this point.
If we're disrespectful towards her it will only fuel her thought that we are a bad influence on Gaser.
So? Don't you get it?! Trying to gain her acceptance is over, it's not working. Proving that we aren't bad influences and cyberbullies isn't working. There's nothing to gain from it anymore. The restraining order proves it. We could be sinless saints and this woman wouldn't listen. Who the fuck cares what she thinks or sees now. The only reason we'd be bad influences now, is because of what she herself has caused.
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What good will letting our tempers get ahead of us do, but if only to release some of the anger we've generated?
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Getting mad is the appropriate response, yes. But allowing your anger to choose your actions for you will only lead to everything falling about our heads. Focus your anger and vent it in a productive way. Angrily lashing out at someone is not going to do anyone any good, most of all yourself.
They will require the so-called victim to appear in court in order to get the restraining order. He will need to speak, of his own accord, against Hikaru and confirm his mother's statements. Gaserlake won't do that of his own free will. Even more so if it means going back to his mother's house without the reprieve Shattered Planes offers him.
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I did my research on restraining orders in California.
She has 3 options of type to file. HOWEVER, all of them, the 'victim,' has to know a person. Like a neighbor, an associate, a co-worker. You have to personally know the person and live near them to file the restraining order. California does not do stranger and/or distances ROs.
So I guess she was all talk on that one.
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Well that's a relief. However, we can't just get angry with her and voice it to her. We aren't trying to garner her respect so much as not prove her point. If we call her or email her and tell her to fuck off we're just playing into her trap.
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Ive actually been emailing her... she seems to blame Hik for most of this.
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Forward me the emails Lyoko?
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And of course she blames me the most. I'm the 'scapegoat,' so to speak. As K2 put it, she can't conceive the idea she caused her child to want to commit suicide, so she looks to blame his friends for it. Mainly me, as I'm the one that called right after to see if he was still alive. And probably for the fact that out of everyone he could have called from the hospital (family) I'm the one he called. He even said he didn't want to talk to his mother when I asked.
Did I mention he said that phone call was the happiest thing he's had all day, the very first day he called?
She blames me because she needs someone else to blame rather than herself.
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We can't very well use that against her at the moment, can we?
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Two last updates...
1. He called me last night. But I think he snuck the call. I didn't have the phone near me so I didn't catch it till 20 minutes later. But there was a voicemail. However the voicemail had no talking, was a few seconds long, and there was like one tap on it, and that's it. More of a sign than anything.
2. Lyoko found out he's been discharged.
...We don't know if he's at his uncles or his mothers at this point or if he can contact. So the wait continues, but at least we know he's out of Hell. Now to do everything in our power to find a way to contact him. :-\
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Hoorah...
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He's at his mothers.
So... question remains, what now?
He apparently has the comp just no ethernet cord. They're watching all phones and he doesn't have his cell. So what can we do?
Oh, and his family is still monitoring us. Like right now they are.
Guest (75.49.207.132) 05:15:34 PM Viewing the topic Gaser Won't Be On.
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this is ale, i am a friend pf francis here in LA. we used to go to school together. i also am friends of the guy u contacted. we can help in any way u can.
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Thanks for offering. It is very nice of you.