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The Hub => The Library [ A R C H I V E ] => Staff Updates => IC Disputes => Topic started by: Queen Bright on February 06, 2010, 01:09:23 AM
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(Null because you ignored everyone elses posts but K2s, killed him in one hit, and completely disregarded the fact Hikaru still had hold of your katana with holy fire, since you never did post against it...)
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(Null because 1. Hikaru's holy fire can't take hold of objects that are magically enhanced its chemically impossible. 2. Fire doesn't burn FOREVER. Weather its holy fire or not. 3. He's not dead aka due to the fact of the magically in enhanced sword. It's not physically damaging him its slowly killing him from the essence of his magic/spirit/soul. Ect, ect.)
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(1: Ok, what the hell are you talking about?
2: The fire can stay sustained for as long as the mage can keep the spell up. Since a single tongue of flame would be a relatively easy effect to keep up, she could sustain it for hours.
3: That point wouldn't be enough to null her null.)
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@Night_Grue
You're making it impossible for us to get out, or even have a way without godmodding back.
Saying only your magic can be used at all, saying we're in the tabernacle, even if we weren't.
Saying all that passed because we didn't post and didn't prevent your post.
There's a time limit that people are given to prevent. Some of us didn't feel like posting tonight, or didn't get the chance. Hell, you posted after Nisorin, before I could post.
You have to leave things open for us to at least have a chance.
And I don't even understand your post. Is that the String Theory? Seems a lot like it.
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Actually the only godmodding i have seen in this thread is the whole "cutting the threads of magic" bit. Due to that I had to give an explination for the convoluded descriptiooevents in that bit. It is only godmodding if the is not counter. I have left an obvious counter to the entirty of my tactics here. So either figure it out or don't complain when I layer effects on somthing that is completly fair as long as it has a counter. I have not did anything uncounterable. Thus there has been no godmodding from me. Although thank you for taking my physical
memory to the dump.
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You said we couldn't cast any other magic in it. And that we were in it already.
That's godmodding.
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No, my character thinks he prevented you from casting spells. However, seither doesn't know of sages and exactly how their spells work. Everyone in there may not be able to cast most spells. Hoqever each character can in fact teleport out of it.
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You didn't care to point this out and made it seem like you were godmodding...Don't blame us for jumping conclusions, I even asked Nisorin before calling it out -.-, next time signal it or OOC or at leas SOMEHOW give us some note that it's not godmodding.
Ugh, I'll post tomorrow, sleep time.
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I was wrong to expect creative solutions to appealingly impossible problems. I wrote my post from what my characters thinks. What my character perceives. Not what is actual reality because not independent character can fully grasp all perspectives and possibilities of a given situation.
Also it was not string theory, close guess though.
Edit:
To explain my most resent post, Erabus tried to blast me with raw power from the court. However as I had RP'd earlier Seither had created a Tabernacle of pillars and a frozen cloud around the entire court. This Tabernacle is a ritualistic access console to a very Gnostic kind of Velcidrus magic that allows use of both manipulation of molecules to the level of quarks, this manipulation is control by artificially constructed beings who has dominion over a certain type of atomic phenomenon, IE the Gods, and Goddesses.
While within the build that acts as the console, everything within it is under that consoles user, IE Seither. However it is limited to what Seither, the Velcidrus, and the Artificial spiritual constructs understanding. Due to the slowing of space-time within the Tabernacle or console, Seither has more time to try and understand your attacks. Making trying to attack directly pointless. Like Erabus.
However, Teleportation for the Velcidrus and by extension
Seither, works in a completely different way then anyone else in the universe. B because teleportation is generally instantaneous after being initiated, Seither would have no time to counter it within the Tabernacle. And would be able to nullify or absorb while the target is within the tabernacle.
Thus, please stop trying to force your way out and simply teleport out of the tabernacle…
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Or, one could just introduce an AM field into the mix, as I just did.
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Or, one could just introduce an AM field into the mix, as I just did.
Anti-matter? FI that is the case, you destroy everything within the Tabernacle
Atnti-magic? This magic is not truly spiritual. It falls more under the "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
The is no catch alls. Your barriers can only block what you already know. You Anti-magic field can only prevent magic you already know. No current character except Seither understand Velcidrus technology and magic, there is no possibility for you to create an anti-magic field because it is not magic as you understand it.
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You say we don't know the nature of your magic. Well you wouldn't know the nature of my substance fires.
http://galacticempires.raylon.org/index.php?topic=215.0
Or the nature of the Revelation magic, which that spell was cast under.
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Or the nature of Relorian magic, or in the case of Celestie, Orion abilities. Nor, apparently, do you know how AM fields themselves function.
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AM Fields supress magic, it's not a barrier.
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AM Fields supress magic, it's not a barrier.
Then you would have to suppress that specific kind of magic and have an understanding of that magic. In RPs, catch alls limit creativity. There is no one kind of magic and thus no one kind of anti-magic barrier. The barrier comment was in reference to the catch-all barrier cast within the RP.
It a long stretch that any character here has any understand of Velcidrus magic and how it works then Seither, who has a NZC which confers Velcidrus knowledge. However Seither is cast spells that affect things based on scientific understanding of the molectual process of magic, heat may be heat, cold may be cold. However magic is not magic because the term magic itself is loose and undeterminable at best.
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AM Fields supress magic, it's not a barrier.
Then you would have to suppress that specific kind of magic and have an understanding of that magic. In RPs, catch alls limit creativity. There is no one kind of magic and thus no one kind of anti-magic barrier. The barrier comment was in reference to the catch-all barrier cast within the RP.
It a long stretch that any character here has any understand of Velcidrus magic and how it works then Seither, who has a NZC which confers Velcidrus knowledge. However Seither is cast spells that affect things based on scientific understanding of the molectual process of magic, heat may be heat, cold may be cold. However magic is not magic because the term magic itself is loose and undeterminable at best.
Same as our magic then. You don't say how Blood Fire works, I do.
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If it is hot, then it is hot because of the vibrations of the molecules being intense. Stop that vibration then there is no heat, no vibration or limited vibration then it becomes a solid. The lava to stone, water to ice and why one is a solid and one is not.
Blood is blood, blood has iron in it and iron is metallic. Metals allow my magic to work faster. A twister cannot twist if it is solid. Additionally you cool down a small animal quickly and it reheats the shock itself would kill it.
I use actual logic for how something works, you made blood fire. Fire it hot, and blood as I said is blood. It you wish to give it different properties state it as a response. However everything with your fire would be a normal atom, and thus regular matter. You cannot change the reaction of matter and anti-matter have when they come into contact with each other…
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*sighs* Great, another person who thinks everything has to be science.
Magic is not science. Its definition is vague because magic is as varied as nature. It takes many different forms, can do things that break the laws of science, and thus is unprovable and uncomprehendable through the application of science. The only things limiting what a mage can do are OOC limits placed for the benefit of the story, and the mage's imagination.
And where, pray tell, does it say that you can use any metal as a magical catalyst?
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Magic cannot break the laws of the universe only bend them to a point that a normal person is unable to understand why that phenomenon exists. fire is a fire what every special property given to it may change the way other things might affect it. However it cannot change the mechanics for how heat work.
Magic is generally nothing more then having an understanding of something most people do not and being able to manipulate that understanding.
Physics = magic
Electrician's entire job description = magic
coding/programming = magic
engineering of any kind = magic
Magic does not break the laws of physics and cannot break them. If you're all using traditional anime-esque/Tolkien type magic then it is just the manipulation of mana or some other magical energy of another name and that only allows for manipulation of nature and the world around you under the laws of how the interaction of that mana/ spirit energy/Magicka/ of whatever the heck you call it with the world around you.
I expect decent education out myself and those around me, and that includes you. Use logic, no mystical explanations and most of all don't use catch alls to explain something you cannot explain with your own mind.
Science is the only method to even start explaining magic. You can have your mythical explanations as long as the basic of how thing work stay the same. Heat will work the way heat works, and cold will work the way the cold works. molecules will be molecules and work like molecules.
Just a simple test question. what is the very first thing you need to make a library?
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That's just it.
We're not using anime and tolkein type magic.
We adapt the other type of adherent.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_%28paranormal%29#Theories_of_magic_2
Not completely, but ours is more like the last two.
Magic is life and existence. A magic user taps into that existence.
But if you want to play the science game. Just wait till I get Echo approved. Nihil goes farther than Quarks even -.-
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Actually from what I have read of Nihl you have a basic understanding of how empty space works and anti-magic is good and all. However, tapping into existance is only as power as how close other's perseption of that existanc, of that life.
If achar
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AM Fields supress magic, it's not a barrier.
Then you would have to suppress that specific kind of magic and have an understanding of that magic. In RPs, catch alls limit creativity. There is no one kind of magic and thus no one kind of anti-magic barrier. The barrier comment was in reference to the catch-all barrier cast within the RP.
It a long stretch that any character here has any understand of Velcidrus magic and how it works then Seither, who has a NZC which confers Velcidrus knowledge. However Seither is cast spells that affect things based on scientific understanding of the molectual process of magic, heat may be heat, cold may be cold. However magic is not magic because the term magic itself is loose and undeterminable at best.
If that's the case, then how do you manage to suppress our magic?
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AM Fields supress magic, it's not a barrier.
Then you would have to suppress that specific kind of magic and have an understanding of that magic. In RPs, catch alls limit creativity. There is no one kind of magic and thus no one kind of anti-magic barrier. The barrier comment was in reference to the catch-all barrier cast within the RP.
It a long stretch that any character here has any understand of Velcidrus magic and how it works then Seither, who has a NZC which confers Velcidrus knowledge. However Seither is cast spells that affect things based on scientific understanding of the molectual process of magic, heat may be heat, cold may be cold. However magic is not magic because the term magic itself is loose and undeterminable at best.
If that's the case, then how do you manage to suppress our magic?
Well its onyl surpressed because within the Tabernacle all things are under Seither's control. Even the air that is breathed by your character's.
Again all that has to be done is teleport out of it and Seither would have nothing that would surpress any of your magic.
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What the hell?! You can't just skip our posts like they were nothing.
Hikaru is not in the Tabernacle, when she attacked you that last post. And she attacked you with the god fire that Koty is so known for. Divine origin, not your molecules.
You can't just absorb it without saying how. She wasn't in your little trap. Counter it, or be a godmodder.
And Lucifer had seemed to teleport everyone to another dimension. Another thing you completely ignored and didn't care to counter. He's also not in the Tabernacle anymore.
WTF?
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What the hell?! You can't just skip our posts like they were nothing.
Hikaru is not in the Tabernacle, when she attacked you that last post. And she attacked you with the god fire that Koty is so known for. Divine origin, not your molecules.
You can't just absorb it without saying how. She wasn't in your little trap. Counter it, or be a godmodder.
And Lucifer had seemed to teleport everyone to another dimension. Another thing you completely ignored and didn't care to counter. He's also not in the Tabernacle anymore.
WTF?
Pay attention, the world tree Yggdrasil absorbed it, using YOUR fire to grow… that in itself was the counter.
Addtionally, the tree is existence and life its using your brand of magic. This something that had been planned before I even made the original concept for my character
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Oh right, except you never said where the damn tree was or that it absorbed it.
And you put the tree AFTER you said you took the powers.
But how did you take the powers, if they were not in your little location?
And of K2s post?
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I said it was a tree multiple times. K2's post was the last condition for this tree being summoned/revived. The tree itself absorbs the power. It has nothing to do with my Tabernacle, which isn't even there anymore.
Seither is gone and you have a gigantic tree feeding on your very life force… that must be a very bad day
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You didn't stop the attack!
You created something, but you never put an actual counter or dodge of the attack.
So I'll assume that you got hit, because you would first have to avoid the attack before taking it.
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You didn't stop the attack!
You created something, but you never put an actual counter or dodge of the attack.
So I'll assume that you got hit, because you would first have to avoid the attack before taking it.
The tree itself has completly encroached the fire itself as the energy used to grow. How hard is this to understand? Heck even without that Seither is not even there anymore...
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You didn't stop the attack!
You created something, but you never put an actual counter or dodge of the attack.
So I'll assume that you got hit, because you would first have to avoid the attack before taking it.
The tree itself has completly encroached the fire itself as the energy used to grow. How hard is this to understand? Heck even without that Seither is not even there anymore...
The fact that you said you absorbed holy fire? She attacked with god fire.
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You didn't stop the attack!
You created something, but you never put an actual counter or dodge of the attack.
So I'll assume that you got hit, because you would first have to avoid the attack before taking it.
The tree itself has completly encroached the fire itself as the energy used to grow. How hard is this to understand? Heck even without that Seither is not even there anymore...
The fact that you said you absorbed holy fire? She attacked with god fire.
Exactly, the God fire itself was necessary for Yggdrasil to grow.
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You didn't stop the attack!
You created something, but you never put an actual counter or dodge of the attack.
So I'll assume that you got hit, because you would first have to avoid the attack before taking it.
The tree itself has completly encroached the fire itself as the energy used to grow. How hard is this to understand? Heck even without that Seither is not even there anymore...
The fact that you said you absorbed holy fire? She attacked with god fire.
Exactly, the God fire itself was necessary for Yggdrasil to grow.
Yet your post said holy fire.
So because of your typo, you ignored the attack.
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If you have to get typo technical, your running out of logic to use... Holy fire/God fire same thing in regards to my post.
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If you have to get typo technical, your running out of logic to use... Holy fire/God fire same thing in regards to my post.
NOT the same thing in rp.
Typo or not, getting that wrong changes a lot.
Holy Fire - Gold flames, hotter than regular fire, and under god fire, the most extreme version of a fire you can get.
God Fire - See Orph's post on it, violet flames, http://galacticempires.raylon.org/index.php?topic=362.0
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If you have to get typo technical, your running out of logic to use... Holy fire/God fire same thing in regards to my post.
NOT the same thing in rp.
Typo or not, getting that wrong changes a lot.
Holy Fire - Gold flames, hotter than regular fire, and under god fire, the most extreme version of a fire you can get.
God Fire - See Orph's post on it, violet flames, http://galacticempires.raylon.org/index.php?topic=362.0
From your Character’s perspective. To Seither he calls God fire, holy fire. As my post being IC Seither calling it Holy fire is just him being an introspective shut in with no respect for formal discourse or terminology.
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If you have to get typo technical, your running out of logic to use... Holy fire/God fire same thing in regards to my post.
NOT the same thing in rp.
Typo or not, getting that wrong changes a lot.
Holy Fire - Gold flames, hotter than regular fire, and under god fire, the most extreme version of a fire you can get.
God Fire - See Orph's post on it, violet flames, http://galacticempires.raylon.org/index.php?topic=362.0
From your Character’s perspective. To Seither he calls God fire, holy fire. As my post being IC Seither calling it Holy fire is just him being an introspective shut in with no respect for formal discourse or terminology.
Then post your characters thoughts.
But when referring to the crap in counter, call it what it is, because of your lame, spelling, grammar, and post structure.
It's confusing the fuck out of the rest of us, define what you use and block, dammit.
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If you have to get typo technical, your running out of logic to use... Holy fire/God fire same thing in regards to my post.
NOT the same thing in rp.
Typo or not, getting that wrong changes a lot.
Holy Fire - Gold flames, hotter than regular fire, and under god fire, the most extreme version of a fire you can get.
God Fire - See Orph's post on it, violet flames, http://galacticempires.raylon.org/index.php?topic=362.0
From your Character’s perspective. To Seither he calls God fire, holy fire. As my post being IC Seither calling it Holy fire is just him being an introspective shut in with no respect for formal discourse or terminology.
Then post your characters thoughts.
But when referring to the crap in counter, call it what it is, because of your lame, spelling, grammar, and post structure.
It's confusing the fuck out of the rest of us, define what you use and block, dammit.
Why block when you can revive/grow Yggdrasil as the God fire itself being the food for its growth?
I defined what I used and what it did beyond that is up for you to comprehend yourself...
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You completely misinterpreted me.
I MEANT, to clarify your damn posts.
IC is what your character thinks and see's from their view.
But NOT when you're explaining what they're doing.
That's seen from the narration and the readers view.
If you DON'T clarify to the reader what it really is, the reader goes on believing it's Holy Fire and wonders what the hell is happening.
ALSO, get on AIM and contact Nisorin (as I have you blocked,) so we can debate this damn situation.
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You completely misinterpreted me.
I MEANT, to clarify your damn posts.
IC is what your character thinks and see's from their view.
But NOT when you're explaining what they're doing.
That's seen from the narration and the readers view.
If you DON'T clarify to the reader what it really is, the reader goes on believing it's Holy Fire and wonders what the hell is happening.
ALSO, get on AIM and contact Nisorin (as I have you blocked,) so we can debate this damn situation.
I am on http://webchat.quakenet.org/ in #GE...
I do not have access to AIM.
However debating here has seemed to Suffice
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And the outcome....of the topic argument. Great, just great.
http://pastebin.ca/1793392
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Night_grue, Hikaru and myself have discussed this in an IRC chat, and both Hikaru and myself have found that you, Night_grue, did indeed godmod. Not only that, but you have completely blown off the established storyline of the board. Both of these counts are completely unnacceptable. Your posts in the Thanks For The Memories topic are now null, with the sole exception being Seither's first arrival.
What you choose to accept or deny regarding the board's history does not matter. Your character exists here, and so lives in the current timeline. That means that the history did yes happen, all the established lore does yes apply even to your Velocidrus stuff in their entirety, and your characters are thus bound by the realm they live in. If you do not accept this, then do not RP here. I doubt you will find an RP board that will allow you to simply blow off the established lore as you have done here.
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Magic is the manipulation of energy by the sentient mind, how it is manipulated is the variable. AM fields suppress the ability to manipulate energy.
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*sighs* Great, another person who thinks everything has to be science.
I never wanted everything to be science...
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Didn't mean you.
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Oh. Ok.