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Here I'll explain my views on the Embodiments and other Divine beings, if they get changed and I'll edit it and shit.
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God - THE Divine being, known for creating the universe. There has been only one entity that is even close to being equal with him, and that would be "Him".
"Him" - This entity is attributed to some of he worst happenings in the history of existence. The introduction of Sin? That was his plan. Sinking of Atlantis? That was his doing. The war against God, an event known as the Harbinger. He was the commander of the armies along with his close ally Lucifer. Many theories have been proposed, but the truth is that "Him" is God's immorality in tangible form, were God is creation, "Him" is destruction.
Embodiment - These entities are commonly mistaken as Gods by primitive people and technological civilizations, known for their complete control over a certain attribute over the universe. These beings however have all been known to have a certain object that has great sway over them.
The Harbinger - The event known as the Harbinger is the rebellion led against God by "Him" and Lucifer, leading to the creation of Erebus and other events. It is known to be the bloodiest and greatest war reality has ever known, until God intervened well the rest is well known.
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Is it one object that holds sway over them all, or a different object for each embodiment?
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One for each.
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And one last question, what're the embodiments we currently know of?
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Vahaga - Snow
Anarchy - Entropy
None other that I know off...
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The strength of an Embodiment is directly related to it's station, it quite simple actually. The more specific their title is, the less amount of power they contain.
So, the Embodiment of Blue Popsicle is far powerful then then the Embodiment of Popsicle. Due to the second Embodiment's station over ALL Popsicle, and the first's station is only over BLUE ones. See what I mean?
Therefore Death would be stronger then Wound, or Decay. And Destruction would be stronger then Death, but on par with creation.
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One could argue that death is more specific than wound, actually. A wound may or may not kill, but Death means Death, period. XP
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What would trump Insanity and what are the objects supposed to be?
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Orgadude, mentality would trump insanity, as mentality would encompass both insanity, and sanity. And I'd assume the objects would differ for each Embodiment.
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Yes yes, but certain Embodiments violate that law by governing a certain aspect, as Death is more specific then Wound, but is more powerful as it controls Death itself.
Alright, time for the power of the Gods themselves to be explained.
There is a power out there the violates the laws of the universe, of existence itself. It simply referred to as Control. It dwarfs Magic, makes Psionics look like nothing more then hypnotism. It is just as it is called. It is Control. At most it is the Control over everything, at least it's complete Control over a certain attribute of reality. Gravity, air, brownies. It varies from user to user. The users? The Embodiments. Each has an attribute they have control over, Death has full control over Death and can use to anyway he or she wishes, Pirate has full control over pirates and can use it however he or she wishes. If Pirate wanted a pirate captain to turn into a duck? Blam, the bitch is now a duck.
Get it?
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Alright, time for the power of the Gods themselves to be explained.
There is a power out there the violates the laws of the universe, of existence itself. It simply referred to as Control. It dwarfs Magic, makes Psionics look like nothing more then hypnotism. It is just as it is called. It is Control. At most it is the Control over everything, at least it's complete Control over a certain attribute of reality. Gravity, air, brownies. It varies from user to user. The users? The Embodiments. Each has an attribute they have control over, Death has full control over Death and can use to anyway he or she wishes, Pirate has full control over pirates and can use it however he or she wishes. If Pirate wanted a pirate captain to turn into a duck? Blam, the bitch is now a duck.
Get it?
That makes no sense. It was better when they were just the forces of those things, in a literal fashion. This is saying they could make any random person have control of it if they got that 'control,' power.
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No, as then they would lose their power. Which makes that person their successor, as they can die.
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No, as then they would lose their power. Which makes that person their successor, as they can die.
Complete control would be godmodding, though. Even for embodiments. As many people that have them now? Having them have that, would let everyone godmod that aspect. And for ones that have embodiments of the higher aspects. Death, Time, Gravity.....they could kill a character without killing them. I vote no on this one.
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Yes, but the Control is like using something that isn't supposed to be used. If an Embodiment doesn't use it right they'll off themselves.
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Except. Control would be a force in of its self, and therefore there'd be an embodiment of Control. Because it is an aspect of existence.
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Yes, that is an Embodiment who regulates the use of Control, like a bank.
I like banks.
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Ah, but Pirate has no control over a duck, so thus it hasn't the ability to transform things into that. If Im getting this right.
Of course, that could just mean they'd not still have control over the captin, as they are no longer a pirate, buuuut...
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I, upon conception of the idea of the embodiment of anarchy, had conceived embodiments as the aspects in a body, as the name embodiment suggests, not someone with control over the element in question. Though embodiments would have complete control over their element, but this is because they ARE the element. Yes, this is godmoding, but there were only supposed to be a few embodiments for plot purpose. It's okay for them to be godmoding-potential, as long as you don't godmode with them.
On the manner of successors, I also intended, as conceived on CE with Fatet, for the 'spirit' or rather 'essence' of the embodiment to always live on, even after death. The very shell of their essence would merge with the spirit of their successor, thus bonding with it and making their successor an embodiment. Fatet is a rare case in this idea, though. Fatet actually, in a battle with X (perhaps the embodiment of anarchy), placed the very shell of his essence inside his disciples (the brown cloaked men) despite their unawareness, as well as on Magimeta (because he knew someday it's properties would be effected by the black hole's time dilation field) and in whoever he chose to be his successor. It'll be upon whoever he chose to be his successor's coming into contact with the brown-cloaks on Magimeta that whoever he chose WILL BECOME Fatet.
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I'm not saying Embodiments aren't the element, this is just the method that they utilize their element.