Shattered Planes Archives (Seasons 4 & 5)
The Board => Archive => Void => Topic started by: Queen Bright on February 02, 2012, 02:01:06 AM
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Look, I'm not trying to start a fight with Orph or anyone. I know we can think of the same stuff. But I've had that idea since I introduced Contradictions (Ingrounded) and the other classes of existence into play. Contradictions and Tautologies. Absolute Truth and ~Truth. Existence basically fixes its self. But with too many ingrounded incidents and contradictions, Tautologies have been given form to right wrongs.
(Been NPCing one at points)
This was thought out even before Philosophy Logic Class started. I didn't have a reason to bring them in yet, though and only knew the terms on a basic self taught standard. After logic class I knew more on how I could flesh out the idea and just barely had the chance with Cap's tree which I posted NPC at.
I know Orph has rights too but I've had this damn system in stages since the start of it! Now his character which does the same thing as Tautologies is being requested and because I've been doing mine NPC and behind scene work, it's gonna start a fight...
Wtf do we do?
I don't want to claim it and say no he can't. But seriously, I've had this idea like forever....
This is his character.
http://shatteredplanes.com/forum/index.php?topic=5371.0
This is a chat where I discussed with Cap about the request. Since when I told Cap my ideas it was IRL.
[23:43] <~Hikaru> ...Orph just stole my idea.
[23:43] <Capxeno> well, unlucky you and... its orph?
[23:45] <~Hikaru> http://shatteredplanes.com/forum/index.php?topic=5371.new#new go read that
[23:45] <Capxeno> see you when i finish that then
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[23:50] <~Hikaru> Apparently nook can have multiple windows
[23:50] <Capxeno_> What?
[23:50] <~Hikaru> Right hand corner nook browser drop down menu
[23:50] <~Hikaru> Click it and it should say windows
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[23:51] <Capxeno> noted
[23:54] <~Hikaru> But seriously
[23:54] <~Hikaru> WTF
[23:55] <Capxeno> So... just no. orph cannot be trusted with such and chatater and you npc one already
[23:55] <~Hikaru> Now I just had to reveal what I'm planning too
[23:55] <Capxeno> chances he is trolling?
[23:55] <~Hikaru> How'd he know?
[23:56] <Capxeno> He is a bastard.
[23:56] <Capxeno> But
[23:56] <Capxeno> He does have a brain.
[23:57] <~Hikaru> I didn't give any notion that it was what I was doing though except for the tree being made to disappear.
[23:57] <~Hikaru> And since I talked to you IRL, where's my damn proof I've been working on the Tautology idea?
[23:58] <Capxeno> Philosphy class.
[23:59] <Capxeno> and counter request.
[00:00] == Dan has changed nick to Dan|Away
[00:00] <~Hikaru> ...If I request it after his it'll ruin my NPC idea as well as make it look like I copied
[00:00] <~Hikaru> Ugh.. I've had Tautologies thought out since bringing in Ingrounded (contradictions). Just didn't have the right time or reason to bring them in yet. till your tree.
[00:01] <Capxeno> You didn't, so who cares what it looks like.
[00:02] <Capxeno> You have two points
[00:02] <Capxeno> Orph cannot be trusted to not godmo
[00:02] <Capxeno> d
[00:02] <Capxeno> and you did have the idea first. so just request it
[00:03] <Capxeno> as an npc. not a char
If it helps, Asura has also mentioned the energy of irrationality in the "To Contradict Existence" post, and Tautologies as well. Hell I even told Jeebus I wanted embodiment of Irrationality at one point to go with all this.
http://shatteredplanes.com/forum/index.php?topic=2157.msg22557#msg22557
Also with Hawkeye, Last line,
10:09:40 AM nekohikaruchan
For the last time An Ingrounded is the very force of irrationality
10:09:51 AM nekohikaruchan
They are a contradiction to existence as a whole.
10:10:06 AM nekohikaruchan
They are a paradox
10:10:57 AM blackhawkfury221
So create a thing that is like anti matter to the ingrounded, a completely rational item.
10:11:14 AM nekohikaruchan
You can't?
10:11:42 AM blackhawkfury221
I've already got several ways to destroy the ingrounded written down.
10:12:01 AM blackhawkfury221
Just when I get off of probation, will have to request them after icly learning about the Ingrounded.
10:12:03 AM nekohikaruchan
A tautology is the opposite of a contradiction. But the Ingrounded are both together, irrationality, a paradox, an anomaly.
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It really does seem like you're trying to deny his every request.
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In her defense, orph does come up with these outrageous requests. He thinks he's a goddamn special snowflake.
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I don't care about the other requests. But I've had this system thought out since bringing it in.
His other requests are just yeah... outrageous. I'm trying to make sure he doesn't bring in things to lock the RP up again like he once did. Notice that Orph brings in requests that are completely outside the system or that break everything? New and unique I understand. But EVERY character of his has to have some status in how the way things work or wiping out people for GG or something.
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Hmmmnnnn...I see this as being a little like that Eli thing that went on back when Orph was Staff...But I think Hik's actually made mention of this somewhat in depth before, unlike how Orph and K2 did...
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Okay, so, you came up with the idea of Tautologies, so that means Orph can't have one?
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He's not wanting Tautologies. He's wanting the whole system, the one in charge, the only one of its kind as the one in charge for all messes.
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Then compromise with him. You'll find people to be a lot hostile if you come up with a solution both of you will enjoy.
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This is Orph we're talking K2. He doesn't compromise, he's tries to and always has to be the best and have the best. He'll argue that it was his idea first, etc.
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He compromises if you put forth the effort, believe me, I have done such many times.
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Well, i personally don't want Orph cleaning up my messes for anything. Seriously. Can't we tell him to fuck off with this one?
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Well, i personally don't want Orph cleaning up my messes for anything. Seriously. Can't we tell him to fuck off with this one?
Nope, for the same reason we cant just tell Hawk to outright fuck off. We already have a low memberbase. A reputation of staff literally just going "Fuck off, no" to members is the LAST thing we need, right after a punch in the face.
Try compromising with him.