Shattered Planes Archives (Seasons 4 & 5)
The Board => Archive => Void => Topic started by: Queen Bright on February 06, 2012, 08:39:04 PM
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If anyone see's another member request something that has a rip in it from a popularly known fiction or hell, even an uncommon or rare one. SPEAK UP and tell a staff member. If it goes further than being just a derivative, we need to know. You cannot expect us to know every fiction work out there. There's some things we individually don't watch, read, or play, and therefore would not recognize in a request.
If you see a rip, report it.
This comes from the fact we've had a rip on the board for ages. Now thanks to an anonymous tip off we know it's a rip but can do nothing about it since it's in the storyline. This is because someone failed to report what they knew about it and expected staff to already know it's a rip. Please do not let this happen again.
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Are we allowed to base on Mythology?
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That'd derivative not rip.
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Can I please point to AI Delta's rant in Violet. Lyoko specifically quotes several things from the Halo series. Thats not mentioning past rips like Thel Valdemee (The Arbiter) and stuff like that... and ship names that are ships from the Halo books. Halo is awesome but thats just...
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They're just references... No one said that there were rules against quoting, or making references.
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Its not referencing! You're ripping the lines directly out of Cortana's mouth, the gravemind's quotes, things that THOSE authors came up with. One or two would be fine but there are sooooo many....
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Given, the rant was heavily built upon those quotes, but I didn't copy it word for word.
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Not the rant itself but most of those quotes were very precise, if missing a word or two.
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Well, under Microsoft's game content usage license, i am free to use it in whatever way, shape, or form I desire, unless stated in the restrictions.
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But not under our rules. Please lessen the Halo quotes. Consider this an informal warning.
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I'm simply saying that it is very poor form for a writer to simply copy and paste another person's work into something of theirs. Its called pastiche, taking something and putting it in yours.
I know Halo is awesome and they have had great lines but come ooon dude, its not like this is something new! You've BEEN doing this. Glassing beam, for example, not to mention almost every ship...
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If it makes yall feel any better, I'll go through and add the Damn disclaimer to everything.
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I don't care about the damn disclaimer I just want you -and anyone else who might do the same- to stop ripping quotes and names and everything from other things!
It just shows your own lack of creativity and I find it annoying, as do, I think, Hiro and Orga-trap.
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Lyoko, it's not a legality issue, it's an issue of tastefulness. This place is about art, man.
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You all should know by now that I'm not the artistic type.
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So? Doesn't mean you can't write well! You're just hindering yourself by relying on the skills of other authors!
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Lyoko, it's not a legality issue, it's an issue of tastefulness. This place is about art, man.
You all should know by now that I'm not the artistic type.
Disclaaimer, V-3RT1G0 made this image, not me:
(http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/003/3/8/what_i_did_in_class_by_v_3rt1g0-d4l6lv4.png)
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Yeah, ripping well known halo quotes was a little over the top Lyoko. You're better then that.
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Alright, i accept all that you've said, but I do want to say one more thing in my own defense. What I did, was a derivative of that work in its almost literal definition. That is all.
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Would it be okay to throw it pop culture references, as long as we mix it up rather than making it all from Halo?
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Would it be okay to throw it pop culture references, as long as we mix it up rather than making it all from Halo?
I think it's be okay for a few references but not like every 10 posts or something with another quote from the same games and whatnot. Something like "Thisquotefromsomeguyonthisgame" every once in a while.
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*points to AUTOBOTS ROLL OUT topic* Its there and peopel recognize it but its not something integral or really important/prevelant.
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You all should know by now that I'm not the artistic type.
I got the perfect quote kind of for you.
Give me a plot and have me make an original story, I'm not very good at. But give me explosive and have me blow something up, well then, I would consider art to be an explosion!
Lol now in all honest that quote wasn't really that good.
Also does the name matter? I mean sure you have Halo names, but if they are not the actually thing like on Halo then it should be fine. I know rips are bad, but names are name. Lets face it. Most of our names come from something. Like Logan comes from the many Logan's before me. And Hikaru could be considered to come from Hikaru no Go (Not saying you ripped it, so please don't start.) and so on. Lets face it names are names. Now if the name and what it is and it's description match then we know it is an actual rip and that is bad.
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Yeah, the first time I ever saw the name Hirau, it was a blue haired lego man. Also, Asura's (embodiment of time) Wrath? There are a lot of names that appear in other places than shattered.
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Except I didn't name my characters after those... Asura is a sanskrit word and also the queen of Heaven in a different spelling. Hikaru means 'bright' or 'to shine' in Japanese. Hell if you want to accuse that, both Rin and Kuro are names from Ao No Excorcist, Kuro being the demon cat and Rin being the main character Satan's son. But I didn't get them from that either... Kuro means black in Japanese, Rin was short for Sirin.
And Kurai means 'gloomy, dull, and dark' in Japanese, the opposite of Hikaru.
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Yeah... im not going to justify every character ive named.
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I wan't accusing anyone of anything. I was going off of what Logan said in the previous post.
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About what he posted... Well, its one thing to have a few names similar but ships names that are EXACTLY the same as a ship in another place? Thats pretty rippish.
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I wan't accusing anyone of anything. I was going off of what Logan said in the previous post.
And I wasn't acusing her. I was just saying, that others have used her name. Which means that her name came before she used it. It could be taken that she may have ripped it. But I know she didn't.
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Yeah, sorry Lyoko, but I agree with Zak. A few passing remarks is one thing, but actively naming everything is another.
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Once again, im not justifying names unless you have any sort of proof that i ripped the character as well as a name.
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I'm not asking you to. I feel to apathetic to do that right now.