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Title: The Sage Three Royalty Aren't 'pure' o.o
Post by: Queen Bright on February 26, 2012, 10:33:33 AM
...So how can they be royalty of both the Dragons and Phoenix's?
The Phoenix/Dragon part I knew wasn't pure as they aren't pure of both but....

Race: Quarter-Anarchaic, Quarter-Dragon-Sage, Quarter-Phoenix-Sage, Quarter-Japaen-Sage (from Mokai)

As that quoted post from K2 on K2323's profile says and is kinda wrong...

Okay, we have Mokai and the Grandmother. One Dragon, one Phoenix. Pures. (We'll get to K2s mention of Mokai's later...)

Their child Gloria would then be Half Dragon, Half Phoenix.

Since she marries Chaos (Anarchaic?) This would make K2, Hikaru, and Kai 1/3 Dragon, 1/3 Phoenix, Half Anarchaic. Since Phoenix and Dragon are already mixed, Anarchaoic would be the larger portion.

.....NOW we add in K2s little mention of Mokai. "Japae Sage."....

This is gonna be the biggest mixup of them all... If Mokai is Japae Sage, then he's a mixture of human and Sage because K2 had both humans and Sages on Japae to make Japae Sages. BUT let's get to this. "Sage" as it is now is a combination of so many Sage types breeding throughout the millions of years that they are no specific type of Sage anymore and mixed so much that they have no special Sage abilities like the pures (Phoenix, Dragon, Gryphon, all the mythical animal ones.)

So technically "Sages" are Mutts.

This would make Mokai Half Mutt/Half Human AND THEN added to the Dragon = 1/3 Dragon, 1/3 Mutt Sage "Sage", 1/3 Human.
Mokai/Granmother = 1/3Dragon, 1/3 Human, 1/3 Sage(Mutt) + Phoenix = Gloria
Gloria/Chaois = Anarchaic + 1/4 Dragon, 1/4 Phoenix, 1/4 Human, 1/4 Sage(Mutt) = K2, Kai, and Hikaru

THIS MEANS,
Hikaru/Kai/K2 = 1/2 Anarchaic, 1/5 Dragon, 1/5 Phoenix, 1/5 Human, 1/5 Sage(Mutt)

Half Anarchaic and not 1/5th because they got a lot of that from only one side. In racial pie charts, the more pure takes more of the chart and the other parts are smaller.
But if we consider that mutts are tons of breeds mixed thoughout the years well....

Sage Three = Mutts.


.....How are they the royalty of the Sages? I'm just not even gonna consider Mokai's lineage in requests. As far as I care to be concerned with, he went full Dragon when he got the Genesis's Kings Soul and changed race. Please K2?
Title: Re: The Sage Three Royalty Aren't 'pure' o.o
Post by: @Pokemon Master Red on February 26, 2012, 11:45:35 AM
Yer math IS wrong. :P
1/3+1/3+1/2=/=1, more accurately they would be 1/4+1/4+1/2 for that part
Then 1/5+1/5+1/5+1/5+1/5 REALLY doesn't equal 1, since thaaaat'd be 4/5+1/2. What your thinking of is proooobably 1/8+1/8+1/8+1/8+1/2, which equals 1.
Mostly just being nit-picky, I do get your point. Of course, pure breeding has problems of its own, but that can be for another time!
Title: Re: The Sage Three Royalty Aren't 'pure' o.o
Post by: Queen Bright on February 26, 2012, 11:56:09 AM
Yeah I figured some of it was wrong. I don't know how that works on some of it. Like take Rin for example.

You just saw Hikaru's lineage which is Kurai's but Negi. So the Phoenix is diluted, right?
Well Sliph a purebred Phoenix is Rin's father... so does that put more Phoenix in it and make the Phoenix part bigger or is it still diluted or... how the hell does that work?
Is there a guide for this racial genes stuff I can go read? Dunno what to call it to look it up. I guess it'd be some pedigree guide or something.
Title: Re: The Sage Three Royalty Aren't 'pure' o.o
Post by: @Pokemon Master Red on February 26, 2012, 12:08:02 PM
No, your right. A new infusion of the Phoenix genes would most probably put more phoenix in. Exactly how much, though, you got me. But, as a general rule for any of it, the end result must always equal 1, which is why if one part is 1/2, the rest of the other ones must get smaller and smaller if they're all equal. Of course, then you get into things where nothing is exactly equal(which is the case most of the time in real life) and it gets more and more complicated...@_@
But yeah, if you wanna find a site, thaaat'd probably be helpful for this.
Title: Re: The Sage Three Royalty Aren't 'pure' o.o
Post by: K2 on February 26, 2012, 01:21:01 PM
Mokai probably should have changed races completely, you're right.
Title: Re: The Sage Three Royalty Aren't 'pure' o.o
Post by: Queen Bright on March 11, 2012, 01:56:34 AM
Okay so going by what K2 just said and the way you're working it along with how K2 pointed out the dilution in Cole and Lizzy... then...
Like this?

(Pie charted it all on paper.)

Mokai = Dragon Sage + Grandmother = Phoenix Sage.

Gloria = 1/2 Phoenix Sage, 1/2 Dragon Sage + Chaos = Anarchaic


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- Hikaru = 1/2 Anarchaic, 1/4 Phoenix Sage, 1/4 Dragon Sage + Koty = Destruction/Embodiment (Destructaic)

- - Hikari = 1/2 Anarchaic, 1/2 Dragon Sage (Angel?) Due to Hikaru causing the Phoenix genes to be dormant when creating Hikari, but would she still carry them...? Also would the Dragon Sage take up half or would there just be a missing nothing?

- - Kotah/Ezael = 1/2 Destructaic, 1/4 Anarchaic, 1/8 Phoenix Sage, 1/8 Dragon Sage

- Kurai = 1/2 Negi-Anarchaic, 1/4 Negi-Phoenix Sage, 1/4 Negi-Dragon Sage + Sliph = Phoenix Sage + Marco Stone = Narikkian (Not added together, she fucked two people and had kids.)

- - Kuro = 1/2 Narikkian, 1/4 Negi-Anarchaic, 1/8 Negi-Phoenix Sage, 1/8 Negi-Dragon Sage

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- K2323 = 1/2 Anarchaic, 1/4 Phoenix Sage, 1/4 Dragon Sage + Julia = Whatever Sage she was.

- - Fiske = 1/2 Whatever his mother was, 1/4 Anarchaic, 1/8 Phoenix Sage, 1/8 Dragon Sage

- - Kaleb = 1/2 Whatever Sage Julia was, 1/4 Anarchaic, 1/8 Phoenix Sage, 1/8 Dragon Sage

- - - -  Cole = 1/2 Human, 1/4 Whatever Sage Julia was, 1/8 Anarchaic, 1/16 Dragon Sage, 1/16 Phoenix Sage

- - - - Lizzy = 1/2 Human, 1/4 Whatever Sage Julia was, 1/8 Anarchaic, 1/16 Dragon Sage, 1/16 Phoenix Sage
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- Kai = 1/2 Anarchaic, 1/4 Phoenix Sage, 1/4 Dragon Sage +  ???

- - Ryuu = 1/2 ???, 1/4 Anarchaic, 1/8 Phoenix Sage, 1/8 Dragon Sage




Rin is the only one that confuses me.... She WOULD be like Kotah if the father was something else...but the father is a full Phoenix so does that add more Phoenix blood, thus?

Would it be a full half? 1/2  Negi-Phoenix Sage, 1/4 Negi-Anarchaic, 1/4 Negi-Dragon Sage?
Or would it be only add a part? 1/3 Negi-Phoenix Sage, 1/3 Negi-Anarchaic, 1/3 Negi-Dragon Sage?

AND is Phoenix Sage(Sliph) the same as Negi-Phoenix Sage (Kurai) ???
If not... 1/2 Phoenix Sage, 1/4 Negi-Anarchaic, 1/8 Negi-Phoenix-Sage, 1/8 Negi-Dragon Sage

Then if not to fuck it up more! Cap said because of Umbrear blood the Dragon Sage part would have been rejected so Rin had to have it removed...

So depending on the top..

Sliph/Kurai Separate Phoenix/Negi-Phoenix = 1/2 Phoenix Sage, 1/4 Negi-Anarchaic, 1/4 Negi-Phoenix Sage ?
Sliph/Kurai Same Phoenix Blood = 1/2 Negi-Phoenix Sage/Phoenix Sage, 1/2 Negi-Anarchaic  ????

I just don't know for Rin.
Also if there's any great grankids of the Sage Three I lost counting ability. I was doing this through visual pie charts since I don't know fractions. Any more dilution or hell adding on of another race the same and I dunno.
Title: Re: The Sage Three Royalty Aren't 'pure' o.o
Post by: Beware Ye Who Enter Here on March 11, 2012, 01:28:36 PM
Why does this really matter? The European royal families interbred tons, in an attempt to keep the genetic pool within royalty. Now I'm willing to bet that Queen Elizebeth is more Spanish, Dutch and German then she is English.
Title: Re: The Sage Three Royalty Aren't 'pure' o.o
Post by: Ghost on March 11, 2012, 05:20:53 PM
Why does this really matter? The European royal families interbred tons, in an attempt to keep the genetic pool within royalty. Now I'm willing to bet that Queen Elizebeth is more Spanish, Dutch and German then she is English.
Egyptians did the same, marrying their siblings or other "royalties"
Title: Re: The Sage Three Royalty Aren't 'pure' o.o
Post by: Queen Bright on March 11, 2012, 06:15:41 PM
Why does this really matter?

It doesn't. It's just something I noticed and now something I want to  chart with the other stuff. So yeah I need help with Rin.