Shattered Planes Archives (Seasons 4 & 5)
The Hub => Accepted Requests => Accepted Races => Topic started by: Kalorph_ on April 11, 2011, 06:14:29 PM
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Topic got deleted again, and I'm not doing all of this shit again.
Staff; approve or deny? I'm waiting for majority.
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Alright, honestly, from what I've read of it, it IS fine. Approved.
Also, I notice that, yet again, somehow, the topic is past the '120 Days' mark. Wooondeeeer how, considering that it WAS just made a few days ago. -_-
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K2s version was if he could provide how it became capable.
Orph's version? Makes no sense. It's still regular goddamn energy that has now way of being capable of casting spells. I still stand that if it's like Ki, fine. But it can't cast spells.
And Magic is NOT energy therefore he can't mess with Genesis, Revelation, Holy Fire, or others magic or replicate them.
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I'm pretty sure I remember Orph specifically saying that it didn't actually cast spells...
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I'm pretty sure I remember Orph specifically saying that it didn't actually cast spells...
BING-MOTHERFUCKING-O
God fucking damn.
Hikaru; how does magic interact with the physical world? Converted existence is not physical; neither is astral or anything of the sort.
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Yeah I thought this problem was solved?
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No problem can be solved if Hikaru is on the case! :D
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I could try to find a reasoning about magic being energy and magic not being energy, but I'll stay quiet before I make someone's brain explode.
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I could try to find a reasoning about magic being energy and magic not being energy, but I'll stay quiet before I make someone's brain explode.
Go for it! :D
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nah, I dun wanna get this debate started again. besides, I can think of a reason or two but I'm not saying it
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Debates help us figure out the details of the site and remove plots holes or things that don't work within site rules.
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Well, first thought is what real magic really is. A form of matter but with what to make it....usable? Energy right? To make light, you need energy, and I'm too lazy to type it all, but it has a lot of insane logic about space and energy. Yes, I said space but that's for another reason involved I dun wanna type.
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Can I just say one thing? Magic is converted existence, right? Well, existence is everything, matter, energy, and antimatter, almost all of which is physical, which would make magic a mostly physical domain, and mean there has to be such a thing as magical energy.
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Sort of right. There's different kinds of existence, though. Magic is converted from 'Magic Existence', whereas everything else is converted 'Whateverelse' Existence(Technology, for that matter, runs on a form of converted Tech Existence). Magic Existence is more Ethereal than Physical, from what I gather, and even if not it wouldn't really be the same thing.
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Magic is physical but NOT energy. Magic is just magic. Astral is Ethereal and on the Astral Plane except when converted to Spirit Energy and converted from the Astral to Physical Plane. Magic is already on the physical plane, it is both ethereal and corporeal. But again. NOT energy. I don't care what your definition of energy is, it's not energy it is existence, plain and simple. Existence isn't energy.
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..if it's already on the physical plane where the hell does converting existence and bullshit like that come in?
And stay on topic as well. That's two approvals I assume Jeebus is on board. One more I think?
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magic doesn't have to be completely physical, but like I said, I'm staying quiet.
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Yeah I thought this problem was solved?
It was solved with K2s variation of the capability coming from conversion (Though Orph didn't give why it was capable)
His version that has no way of gaining capability was not solved. Also, the energy thing with Magic needs to be solved.
..if it's already on the physical plane where the hell does converting existence and bullshit like that come in?
And stay on topic as well. That's two approvals I assume Jeebus is on board. One more I think?
That's just it. It's Existence on the Physical Plane yes, but it's not harnesable my mages until converted to something they can use, MAGIC. Existence is in the same form always, some Ethereal some Corporeal, some in Physical Plane and some in Astral Plane, it doesn't have to be Corporeal to be on the Physical Plane. Magic is Ethereal but because it's converted on the physical plane it is a physical power.
The reason it needs to be converted is so it can be used.
AND SO IT HAS CAPABILITY TO EFFECT THINGS.
Your energy does not have that capability. That is why despite other staff saying approved, since they don't get the fuckign system, I'm still contesting it.
But yes, Magic is not Energy. Holy fire is not energy, Revelation is not energy. I'll assume Genesis is not energy. COMMON MAGIC is not energy. You go this route? You have access to none of it.
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I'm tryin to remain nuetral. But energy can be a form of magic. And I feel like I have to make this explanation even though I don't want to and I know you'll still disagree. There are three kinds of energy. Physical, mental and spiritual. I can explain mt thinking of it and yes, there will be a few examples.
-Physical
Seeing is believing. Forming a ball of fire, changing forms, and even maintaining a pair of wings are physical. You can feel it, see it, or even hear it. This seems to be the most common form of magic. But sometimes the background is mental or spiritual. In the physical realm of things, you can't really explain how you can summon a fireball unless you say training. But how you acquire that magic can be recieved in almost any form. You can meet another being or a charm and all of a sudden gain a new power. But you could also inherit it. Since this one has a common definition, it won't have a long reason of my insane logic.
-Mental
You can do it, just believe. So what if you had a form of magic but you feared that you would hurt someone. Or if you didn't know how to use it. The mind is a powerful thing in the real world or the roleplay world. If you think you can do something, chances are it'll happen. Now if you think you're a fast healer with magic, and you believed in that greatly, you'll most likely be able to heal nicely. If you think you can't, you'll mess up and that person will be affected. This is all in the mind.
-Spiritual
To see is to do; to feel is to believe. This is my favorite type of magic. This magic seems to dwindle off as a civilization grows and breaks from belief. But when a civilization is "tribal", they preform rituals of sorts. A ritual is a form of magic within the people and the event. To obtain spiritual magic in the highest degree, you'd have to be a shaman. The shaman was always considered a link to the gods next to the high rulers of an empire.
Another, darker, form of spiritual magic is for a necromancer of the restless dead. They form a haunt of the night that manages to torture a victim.
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-Physical/Spiritual
From a tribal view, whatever the healer or high ruler said, will in fact happen to their own empire. I'll use mayans as an example. In the Mayan Calendar, shamans and scribes of sorts created this calendar to forsee the events in time. The shaman could have recieved a message from their gods about an event. Astrology was also used in forseeing the events. However, the stars were thought to be past high kings or gods themselves and sent messages to their mortal link for what will happen. One of the most memorable event was when the Spaniards came to take over Latin America. To some, this is dumb luck. But the calendar proves that they knew men of great power would come.
In the Dark Arts, a necromancer provides a sacrifice and a spell along with weird ingredients to summon. This as a thought that the ingredients were to stir a certain being in Hell or the afterlife. This is a spiritual magic in a physical realm.
Another spiritual piece is the restless dead. You hear about people who encounter a ghost or demon and suddenly a tv show recreates it. I'll use a story from one. This mother and her daughter had no clue what'd happened when one day some presence came along and fed on them. They moved and felt better. But then that presence came back. They hired an exorcist and the mother was getting attacked during the ritual to send this "energy vampire" back to Hell. What happened was a spirit who fed on energy finding a host. This "vampire" was in a form of the dead but also gave a physical touch such as a sudden feel to do nothing and scratch marks.
Another story is a native american encounter with a coyote spirit. Upon moving in a house next to the woods, there was a spirit rock. This rock appeared to be like other regular rocks. But once moved, they heard uprisings of howls and saw a form just before it vanished. Native americans born in a reservation close to the area brought a shaman to figure things out. He felt the presence near the area where the rock was. But he had to do a ceremonial piece to make the spirit calm down and find a new resting area into the woods.
Spiritual/physical magic involves high amounts of the beliefs of the people. What they were born into doing to satifsy gods or if one wants to summon to do their bidding, that's a physical and spiritual route.
-Physical/Mental
An actioned influence starts with the mind. Though it appears to be meaningless I can list at least three common forms of this magic. Telekenesis, telepathy and mind control. They say the mind is powerful, and if your major magic is a psycic form, you know where this goes.
Telekenesis, everyone know you pick up an object with your mind and move if around or something. Telepathy is to speak through the mind with another. Mind control, you have to be strong with this magic before you can control a person or an army. This is basic and shouldn't require much explination.
-Spiritual/Mental
A summoner controls the summoned. This generally happens. The summons' debt is paid by doing the summoner's bidding. This is a control of the mind of the summoned. Like in Skyrim, you hear a ghost or a victim say "I don't want to do this" or they thank you when you kill them. This was a spirit beeing controlled physically, but they could be influenced mentally.
-Physical/Mental/Spiritual
It's all in the mind, body, and soul. It's a potent mix when you think about it. Magic will strain all three if you pass a limit. Physically, you may hibernate for years. Mentally, you blank out. Spiritually, the "orb" fades a little. If you used a magic that requires you to be involved with all three, you'd change forms in the mind and body, but your soul would have to allow this change. Like a werewolf. Your soul is yourself. Your mind goes feral into a killing spree, to run, to attack, to get a blast of bloodshed. Physically, you look like a wolf humanoid. You're stronger, faster, and vicious. As a human, you may be average in everything.
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How does that relate to energy?
Spiritual energy-The soul. The soul itself is a ball of energy controlling an open body. My neighbor an I talk about this constantly to try and understand a way of how life is in current or in the afterlife. The thought we share? What you believe is what you believe. Since he won't believe there is a God unless he himself was given proof. For now, he believes that there is no god, no underwold, your spirit turns to a form of energy. And as this said energy, you float in space until you return to lice inside an open carcass that is just born. It isn't reincarnation, because reincarnation involves immediate transfer of the soul in a continious cycle of a rank. Karma is also involved in reincarnation. "To do evil is to be eternal"-Gandhi. If you harm a being, it's forever in your soul. To harm and be reborn, you will be in the poorest rank possible. To do good, you will gain ranking.
Mental energy-The mind needs to work. If you believe it, a flow of energy transfers between mind and body. It's commonly ignored in this form since it seems unimportant but if your mindset won't work, there's no energy to fuel that plan. Mental energy is hard to explain but there has to be an energy in mind to fuel a thought.
Physical energy-The asians fuss iver this most. You have many forms od physical energy. Chi, Ki, Chakra, Potential Energy etc. Chi, Ki and Chakra are a form of energy within the body that has a high amount of spiritual belief. They flow ablong your bloodline, nervous system and lymphnetic system. Along your blood is chi. Ki is everywhere. Chakra flows throughout any passage that flows through the body. A common, less "ritual" related energy, is potential energy/kinetic energy.
How they link-
Energy can be converted to magic, at the same time it can't. To create a fireball requires one's own energy to create something of matter in thin air. Mentally, energy would be needed to control a thing. Spiriually, energy flows through everything. Magic is an energy to the eyes of those who see it. If you used magic without energy, it isn't exactly magic but more or less an illusion.
Energy flows in everything. Fire burns, but requires energy to burn. To create wings means to use energy and convert it to matter.
Now before I go insane or make anyone else go insane, I'm gonna go to a college and apply for the COMPASS test and schedule that on friday and blah blah blah.
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Where is Swifts post from earlier?
EDIT: Somehow it got put into the trash.
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Hikaru prolly moved it. She sent a PM stating that it was about the way SP's magic/energy functions work. However, I tend to be realistic even in a fantasy/sci-fi rp. Otherwise, it's just a crack forum. That post explains my idea of realism regardless of a forum's standards of magic and energy.
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Yeah I thought this problem was solved?
It was solved with K2s variation of the capability coming from conversion (Though Orph didn't give why it was capable)
His version that has no way of gaining capability was not solved. Also, the energy thing with Magic needs to be solved.
..if it's already on the physical plane where the hell does converting existence and bullshit like that come in?
And stay on topic as well. That's two approvals I assume Jeebus is on board. One more I think?
That's just it. It's Existence on the Physical Plane yes, but it's not harnesable my mages until converted to something they can use, MAGIC. Existence is in the same form always, some Ethereal some Corporeal, some in Physical Plane and some in Astral Plane, it doesn't have to be Corporeal to be on the Physical Plane. Magic is Ethereal but because it's converted on the physical plane it is a physical power.
The reason it needs to be converted is so it can be used.
AND SO IT HAS CAPABILITY TO EFFECT THINGS.
Your energy does not have that capability. That is why despite other staff saying approved, since they don't get the fuckign system, I'm still contesting it.
But yes, Magic is not Energy. Holy fire is not energy, Revelation is not energy. I'll assume Genesis is not energy. COMMON MAGIC is not energy. You go this route? You have access to none of it.
I find that you're system is flawed.
SINCE WHEN CAN YOU FUCKING CONVERT SOMETHING THAT ISN'T ACTUALLY THERE? EXISTENCE IS A MOTHERFUCKING STATE, NOT A THING.
Not to mention; if something was being converted it would mean it is no longer there. Ergo a limited resource. :/
I'm not trying to "fit" into your damn system; nothing has to FIT in your damn system for shit. Because you don't own the entire fucking RP and get to decide everything.
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That's very nice and all Yuki, except one little problem, it contradicts the entire system and doesn't apply to how magic is in Shattered Planes, some of it yeah. The energy to magic, and magic being energy and the soul being energy? Ummm no.
The Spirit (Not soul thanks to K2.) Is Existence Ethreal Astral.
Magic is Existence, Ethereal Physical.
Tech is not existence but there's a pure existence that can be a more energized form of Tech, which IS energy because it converts to a useable energy for technology to harness much like Astral becomes Spirit Energy.
But Magic and pure Astral can't be touched as energy because they are not energy. They can be converted to energy but energy can't be converted to them because Existence is the base form.
EVERYTHING you said was just completely irrelevant.
SINCE WHEN CAN YOU FUCKING CONVERT SOMETHING THAT ISN'T ACTUALLY THERE? EXISTENCE IS A MOTHERFUCKING STATE, NOT A THING.
Not on SP? Existence is a state when corporeal sure. I made it a real thing on SP as more than just a state or a concept. It's also not limited it's self-sustaining.
I'm not trying to "fit" into your damn system; nothing has to FIT in your damn system for shit.
If you're using MAGIC yeah it does. Because it's the system of how fucking magic, spirit, AM fields and all that works. You can break it for your thing IF YOU FIND a way to do so like you're trying. But when it comes to regards of magic? Like that Magic is not an energy? HELL YES YOU DO. It's not "MY SYSTEM" it's the system Gaser and I designed after everyone fucking told us to explain things to give as basis of the site that ALL FUCKING STAFF MEMBERS approved at the time. For everyone to approve it then when it's grounded into IC and OOC happenings to decide "no we changed our mind" is just fucking fucked up.
Don't demand explanations if you're gonna throw them out and fucking complain a year later.
It's an insult to Gaser and I.
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That's very nice and all Yuki, except one little problem, it contradicts the entire system and doesn't apply to how magic is in Shattered Planes, some of it yeah. The energy to magic, and magic being energy and the soul being energy? Ummm no.
The Spirit (Not soul thanks to K2.) Is Existence Ethreal Astral.
Magic is Existence, Ethereal Physical.
Tech is not existence but there's a pure existence that can be a more energized form of Tech, which IS energy because it converts to a useable energy for technology to harness much like Astral becomes Spirit Energy.
But Magic and pure Astral can't be touched as energy because they are not energy. They can be converted to energy but energy can't be converted to them because Existence is the base form.
EVERYTHING you said was just completely irrelevant.
I would say it isn't completely irrevevant. To your system, sure. But if I may, can I use my system? And by my system, I mean pretty much how the things work in my view, is how I would use magic in a post. It's scientifically correct, and I'd prefer magic to be that way.
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No because it doesn't change the fact Magic is Existence. You can't change that. Your own system or not, you can't change the base system. Orph is trying to go around it by it not being magic though saying it can do spellcraft. And that doesn't work. You can't make a system if you're saying magic is not existence because in base form it is.
As for science? We agreed a long time ago that Magic is unique on OK, GE, and SP and always has been as something unlimited that can break the laws of physics and science as it is the impossible. We decided for it NOT to have to apply to science.
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FB chat.
Jeebus -If you just clarify what you mean by spellcraft in comparison to what she means
Because what you've said is reasonable, I see no reason it cant be used
Me - Spellcraft; not magic but it's a Magister term for energetic functions. As in using kinetic energy to create heat due to atomic friction. A heat spell.
Ta-fucking-da.
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That seems to be your only argument.
Magister magic doesnt perform magical bindings, it doesn't ritual it is literally energy given a set amount of commands.
Approved.
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Then I need to know the limitations on it. Such as what it can and can't do compared to magic so as to know there's no plot holes.
And again, we're agreed on that you have no access to it becoming magic or gaining power from magic because magic is not energy now?
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..If you had read the original fucking post before deleting every single topic you'd know them.
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I would like to push that we dont need to know the exact limitations on it right away. For comparison, look at the Templars. All I had to say for them to be approved was "They control time, it's not magic." and you found this to be satisfactory.
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I would like to push that we dont need to know the exact limitations on it right away. For comparison, look at the Templars. All I had to say for them to be approved was "They control time, it's not magic." and you found this to be satisfactory.
Thats probably because we knew you werent going to abuse it.
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Didn't delete it moron, don't accuse.
And I did read it, you did not give the limitations of what Magisters can do compared to magic and what they can't do. If it's not spellcraft the limits need to be described. ESPECIALLY with that sample you gave. Sooo many damn things were wrong with that that half of it wouldn't have worked.
And you said nothing about the second paragraph.
@Jeebus, because Time is already a force and has the capabilities your race needed. ORPH is trying to say it can do complex things, not spellcraft as he won't call it that, but similiar. The limits need to be said so he doesn't fucking godmod with it later, did you see the sample he gave? GODMOD.
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Of course those examples were godmod IC, but as an OOC example they worked. A super-powerful Magister is capable of all that.
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Of course those examples were godmod IC, but as an OOC example they worked. A super-powerful Magister is capable of all that.
Not the time thing. Gravity, sure. And not the killing part. BECAUSE 1. You had her turn to dust in your pathetic little example. Showing not where the Spirit is leaving one to assume you destroyed the spirit. BUT YOU COULD NOT as the Spirit is in the Astral and NOT energy. It's only Energy when converted to SE. Your 'energy' could not touch the Spirit or affect it in any way shape or form. Thus that in your example was not possible and the character did not die. Several other things were not possible as well.
It's crap like that, that makes me demand the limitations from you now. Because you have a track recored of exploiting the request system by providing little info in requests so you can capitalize on it at a later date.
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The fuck are you talking about?
I turned her to dust; when the fuck was a spirit ever involved?
Temporal energy has been introduced IC. Ask Jeebus.
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The fuck are you talking about?
I turned her to dust; when the fuck was a spirit ever involved?
One wouldn't beg for their life if they knew they weren't permanently dying. You said you killed her, and said nothing about how she actually died. Hence the word "assume". If it wasn't perma-death, reincarnation would have taken affect and the death wouldn't have happened anyways, dust or not..
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Some sample limitations:
A magister would be ineffective at enchanting items, due to the fact that the energy would eventually run out or lose potency. A magister wouldnt be capable of destroying a persons spirit or breaking physics.
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..people don't like getting killed Hikaru. You're not making any fucking sense.
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Re-post the sample.
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The one you deleted?
Wonder how I'mma do that..
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The one you deleted?
Wonder how I'mma do that..
http://shatteredplanes.com/forum/index.php?topic=5772.0 Deleted?
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I don't see an example in there. Where'd it go Hikaru? Moved it somewhere special?
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If you mean the topic it's always been there, you're just as fucking blind as a bat.
If you mean the example, I saw it when you posted it, you must have edited your post or something because now it's not there.
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Why would I deleted my own god damned example Hikaru?
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Three out of five approvals.
FUCKING APPROVED
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Three out of five approvals.
FUCKING APPROVED
There is a difference between something being approved, and something that just does not work being approved. We have exactly how REALITY works in SP, you fall outside that you are not with in the RP.
I don't really care if you got everyone except Hik to approve. It cannot be approved, and everyone needs to sit down and reread the Reality guide a few dozen times til it sinks in.
Sorry, but you have been given every possible suggestion or limit on what your Magisters could be to work within this RP. Either compromise or it will never be accepted.
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Last time I checked Cap you were neither a staff member nor a really respected voice among the site. Staff decide what is approved or not, and Hikaru only has a limited amount of power. She's lost and therefore it's approved. Get the fuck over it.
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Last time I checked Cap you were neither a staff member nor a really respected voice among the site. Staff decide what is approved or not, and Hikaru only has a limited amount of power. She's lost and therefore it's approved. Get the fuck over it.
Nothing to lose, either it fits the system or it doesn't. One of the few things Hik has down is how things work in this universe, and if doesn't work it doesn't work.
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No.
She set how MAGIC works in the universe Mr. Cap; she doesn't get to control the entire universe. Nor will she ever.
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Approved. As far as limitations go, while I remember reading some in the earlier topics, I do expect you to come up with these in time, through roleplaying. Obviously.
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Then they're approved. Would you mind creating the Magister worlds?
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Actually, im denying this... Im EXTREMELY uncomfortable with this.
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For what reasons?
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For what reasons?
It seems like half the site is just trying to stall me from playing. Not like it's taken almost three months for me to get ONE fucking race approved.
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Lyoko can you explain why it is you are uncomfortable with this? Personally not being comfortable with something isnt really a reason for denial
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The whole concept isnt clicking with me. I'll elaborate more when i get the time to type it out.
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Well hurry the hell up.
This has been in requests for way to fucking long and it's pissing me off.
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At this point I think it would be weird coming to Shattered to find the Magisters topic has no new posts.
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HEY
ITS BEEN THREE MOTHERFUCKING MONTHS
HURRY THE FUCK UP WITH YOUR JOBS
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L-Rage, if you aren't going to type up your argument, then dont hold up a approval. This one isn't getting pocket veto'd, please put in the trouble you have with it or retract your disapproval already.
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It's been about a week..
So; I'm tired of all this stalling bullshit. It's fucking approved. Just make the planets please.
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He's right. Approved.
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Agreed. Had yer chance to say something, L-Rage. Approved.
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This needs to be said...
Just because there is now a race called "Magister"does not mean you own the term. Just as Sage means "wise person," IRL, Magister means "teacher, mage, magic user, master" IRL and still holds that definition on SP.
IF someone wishes to call their character a Magister in term (a teacher) that DOES NOT fall under your race.
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Semantics don't bother me Hikaru; I don't get all butthurt over the little shit.
Now would you mind making their planets and shit? I wanna get started with this race; it only took since January to get it approved..and it's nearly May.
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Planets are territory requests. If you can't post them, then I can't approve them.
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They've been in the empire request form since day one.
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They need to be in territory requests.
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No idea where my empire request went. o.O
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I have another call out for this race after reading his tech and just realizing something...
You understand that by approving this race you are making sure he is NEVER attacked by technology, right? Magic may affect him as he can't convert that since it's not energy. But if he can convert ANY kind of energy then tech is never a threat to his race. Shoot at him? He'd take the energy it takes to fire the laser, the lasers energy itsself, and the energy that causes the laser to move through space.
Shields? He'll absorb and take the energy of the shield don't bother protecting any of your territories.
Any attack by tech? Don't bother. As tech uses energy he can convert it.
Running away? He'll absorb and convert the energy in your speed.
-.- I'm calling BS and saying THAT needs to be fucking balanced. He can't have EVERY energy out there.
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Gaserlake had a device that absorbed energy like a vacuum. While absorbing someone's movement/kinetic energy would be godmodding and wouldn't be a tactic I would use; he did multiple times.
I love it when I get chewed out for having something LESS cheap then your little butt buddy. Stop playing favorites; it's unprofessional.
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Warned for Deliberately flaming.
I was not staff when Gaser requested that energy tech. He had it since GE. As for yours, just because you said "wouldn't be a tactic," makes no difference. We can't trust a members word that they won't use something to godmod when it has godmodding capabilities. Isn't that what you said when I made the TPF Orph? Anyways the fact is it makes you unattackable.
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No it doesn't. And! A magister can't just absorb energy from your legs when you move, nor could they absorb a ships shielding if its in space and they're on the ground. That would require some sort of established energy link; they have to imprint energy to control it remember?
A Magister is very similar to the energy absorbing armor made by the Archive; they can be overloaded. Not to mention they can't just absorb a blast of energy if it hits them in the face. It would cause damage and kill them before they could absorb it.
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You could catch the blast and absorb/convert it. Which makes them OPd.
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..if I caught it then that means I took the necessary steps before hand to do so. Which doesn't make them overpowered. Not ever Magister is at the same level as Ararus or anything like that. Just like Sages not all of them are incredibly powerful.
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Well, um, question then... How much energy could the average Magister soldier absorb from something? I mean, could they catch a bullet and absorb tht kinetic energy?
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To "catch" a bullet would either require crazy ass reflexes or an energy field. The energy absorbed from the kinetic energy would be the exact amount used to stop it. No energy would be gained.
But like before; an energy field would've been a response or a preemptive measure, and no that doesn't mean that is an infinite shield. Energy would be required to make it and sustain it.
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Well, then can you answer how much energy they could absorb before they overloaded?
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Can you tell me how much energy in watts your titan's generator produces?
Fuck no you can't; but be fucking reasonable people. It depends on the strength of the Magister and experience.
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Orph, dude, seriously I'm on your side here please don't jump down my throat. I'm not asking for you to give me how much energy each soldier would be able to absorb. I just think it would be nice to think about a general idea of their limits, please. Of course, since I'm not staff and only a simple, curious member you don't have to oblige.
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An average Magister is generally capable of holding a shit ton of energy, and a single Magister could probably take down a capital ship if they're smart enough.
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Uuuuh, well, I dunno...That seems pretty powerful, though, granted, a magic user can do the same. I suppose its mostly about the way they go about it.