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The Hub => The Library [ A R C H I V E ] => Staff Updates => IC Disputes => Topic started by: Kalorph_ on May 23, 2012, 06:40:58 PM
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The fuck?
Don't just lock a topic; say it's metagaming and then not say shit.
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You come out of orbit and attack for no reason whatsoever without even having a warring race. That's metagaming, at least have a damn IC reason to attack people. ALSO your FTL tech HAS NOT been approved yet until you can fix the distance and dimensional issues.
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There are a lot of different ways to get around the universe; the Magistracy is highly imperial and conquers other empires at whim. Maybe you should read up on something before you try to make decision about it.
ALSO!
I posted in there; yet I can't continue fixing it unless YOU post back and see if that's reasonable and working. Herpderpderpderpderp
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There are a lot of different ways to get around the universe; the Magistracy is highly imperial and conquers other empires at whim. Maybe you should read up on something before you try to make decision about it.
ALSO!
I posted in there; yet I can't continue fixing it unless YOU post back and see if that's reasonable and working. Herpderpderpderpderp
If they're imperial, then they would have attempted to negotiate a vassalization of it rather than immediate attack. :/
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Imperial as in they want land and power, but vassals are only considered if they prove themselves worthy. (pose a challenge) Otherwise they're just absorbed eventually as the Magistracy takes every bit of land they have.
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Doesn't change the fact you need a reason for having chosen that planet, attacking out of the blue, etc. Right now it looks like you just attacked out of boredom and randomly which is METAGAMING.
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Since when did I have to fucking RP every single little aspect of my empire out? I'm not going to RP some bullshit intelligence report or decision to attack. That would waste my time.
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Then don't post attacks. This is an RP not a game. Either RP things out and not metagame or don't attack anything.
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Hik...It IS a RP, but its also a Nation Builder. Attacking places is a core part of the game. And if your getting on Orph for attacking the place without reason...How about half the places the Wayward Marid have attacked? They didn't have any prior contact with the Pirates nor the Lorcar, and he never said anything concerning finding them(For the record, Cap's admitted to using a Dice Roller to choose his attacks). People on this RP attack each other all the time without even knowing the name of their enemy(Or they do when the board is active, anyways). Just because he's attacking doesn't make it metagaming.
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^That.
Now would you please unlock my topic? I have a bunch of Zarethians to massacre.
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the game
It is not a game. It is an RP with nation builder aspects. He needs a reason for attacking. So no, Orph, I will not.
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Wanna know the reason?
They want the planet.
TA-FUCKING-DA. Not everything is an overly retarded complicated storyline Hikaru.
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Then I'll ask again, Hik:Why are you only being hard on Orph and not, say, Cap? Or Hawk? Or hell, even ME at times? Why is it only NOW that your actually saying anything when Orph is trying to do anything, and not before when we've all been posting attacks like that and have been used to it? Believe it or not, it isn't Metagaming when you attack a place with no reason outright stated(especially if its easy enough to infer). If his forces knew who the Zarethians were or they main battle tactics and how their weapons worked, then yeah, that's Metagaming. You're using knowledge your characters don't have, that's Metagaming. What Orph is doing? It...Really isn't.
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Its definitely not really some much Metagming as it is Trolling.
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But trolling isn't against the rules. Orph is the king of trolls. Cap trolled a lot. Hell, you, Hik and almost everyone else trolls Hawkeye in some way.
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Then I'll ask again, Hik:Why are you only being hard on Orph and not, say, Cap? Or Hawk? Or hell, even ME at times? Why is it only NOW that your actually saying anything when Orph is trying to do anything, and not before when we've all been posting attacks like that and have been used to it? Believe it or not, it isn't Metagaming when you attack a place with no reason outright stated(especially if its easy enough to infer). If his forces knew who the Zarethians were or they main battle tactics and how their weapons worked, then yeah, that's Metagaming. You're using knowledge your characters don't have, that's Metagaming. What Orph is doing? It...Really isn't.
Cap had it IC that his empire would choose randomly. PLUS he was going in a line throughout the same Galaxy with a race that does nothing but conquer, though I did get on his case about it several times.
Whereas ORPH here picks a random race and say he's doing it for the planet. Why their planet? Why wipe them out? Why attack them of all people? It IS metagaming to go attack someone just to start something when you don't have an IC reason. ESPECIALLY when you don't even have a damn empire request to show whether they would do such or not.
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You deleted that topic if I remember correctly. I'm not going to go out of my way to rewrite something because you got pissy.
Planet - Land and minerals; last I checked people need a place to stay to you know..live. Being a inter-galactic empire they'd need a fucking SHIT TON of resources just to keep up with their daily life. Why would I keep a sentient and potentially threatening species around when I have the ability to exterminate them; it's the same concept of us killing of annoying animals.
Technology - Another nail in your "no IC reason" is the acquisition of alien technology and therefore knowledge, and the Magisters LOVE technology and are pursers of knowledge in every form. They'd kill for it as well.
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Then post it IC or it's not canon and thus is metagaming.
Also no I did not delete that topic.
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Infer it.
I'm not RPing the minor problems of my fucking empire. No one has ever, and I wont fucking start now. So fuck that, and unlock my fucking topic.
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Warned for cursing excessively.
No.
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Alright. Then change the fucking rules and make that an official rule, or go fuck yourself. You're not lord and master of the RP and can't just declare random bullshit.
In role-playing games, metagaming can be defined as any out of character action made by a player's character which makes use of knowledge that the character is not meant to be aware of. (Metagaming while taking part in relatively competitive games, or those with a more serious tone, is typically not well received, because a character played by a metagamer does not act in a way that reflects the character's in-game experiences and back-story.)
Courtesy of wikipedia.
Nothing I did fit that description.
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You attacked a planet that your empire didn't even know was there, randomy, without IC reason. Metagaming is also done if only the roleplayer has a reason and not the character themselves.
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The Magistracy has as much reason as any organization forcefully taking over another's property.
We've never had to "discover" planets, and if that becomes a rule then make it fucking so. Stop trying to hold my shit back because you have personal problems with it; it's completely within site rules.
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Mind... He did so happen to choose the planet that is actually a dyson sphere around a sun, and is... well, a giant freaking factory powered by the star within....
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I was hoping it would turn into a giant mech or something..
I'msoofuckingbooorrredwiththisdeadsite
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...Why make a rule of something obvious? Look in the older posts, Orph. You, Gaser, K2, all of you 'detected' planets before ever attacking them. Hell even Lyoko did that at first. Maybe it's not a written in stone rule but it sure as hell has been a guideline most USED to follow. If you can't follow it now then it's metagaming.
Also, the "Magistracy" does not exist unless you had the empire approved. And as far as I can see there is no topic with it.
Edit: I'm going back to watching ponies now, argue later.
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ITS WAS FUCKING APPROVED, BUT YOU FUCKING DELETED THE TOPIC.
I can get the admins who approved it to say they did.
Use your commons sense; if the planet is a giant sun powered factory it's practically a giant light-bulb blinking in a dark room. Any intelligent life could find it. If you'd unlock the topic I could just edit it so they had long range scanners going because useless fucking details like that are worth holding up the RP and being annoying.
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Well, rather, its just a large planet orbiting a rather larger red giant.. It is designed not to give off any indication of more then just a particularly large planet. Of course, I'm kinda on Orph's side here, despite his attacking me. Most people randomly attack nowadays... I mean, I do at least. Its how I've conquered most of my places... As has Hiro.
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ITS WAS FUCKING APPROVED, BUT YOU FUCKING DELETED THE TOPIC.
I can get the admins who approved it to say they did.
Use your commons sense; if the planet is a giant sun powered factory it's practically a giant light-bulb blinking in a dark room. Any intelligent life could find it. If you'd unlock the topic I could just edit it so they had long range scanners going because useless fucking details like that are worth holding up the RP and being annoying.
Edit: I'm going back to watching ponies now, argue later.
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Not really; more exasperated. It's more pathetic and annoying then anything, and it reminds me of when I see little kids with admin.
lolgobacktoneopets
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Thats... kinda cheap, Hik. At least fill out a real argument instead of pointing to Orph and going "Metagaming RP moar and stuff!"
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Hik, I never have had to 'detect' planets before attacking them. Hell if planets had to be found first, then where the hell have the attacks on Maltruse been coming from? They murder anything that goes near them, so scouting couldn't have worked, and NOBODY has made a topic saying 'Oh hey look a planet with bugs orbiting it lets go attack'. Nope, instead they just made a topic there, because that's how we RP here.
Also, honestly, nobody goddamn CARES if you're watching MLP or really whatever else. What, we're supposed to just stop posting in the damn topic because you've decided to skip off somewhere else? We'll post our points when we have them, thank you, and we'll wait 'til you get back for you to post your's.
On the matter if Orph's Magister Empire topic, you know he had it up. Don't play that game. I'm not saying its your fault its no longer on the forum, I don't know whose it was for certain, but you KNOW it was up here and was approved.
Concerning Cap, for the matter...How the hell is that different? He attacked places LITERALLY at random, Orph is attacking planets based on whichever one he wants to attack. And on the note of characterization, Cap neeeever said any of that in his posts either, just that they were there and were attacking...We aren't our characters, but we DO have a pretty sizeable influence in what they do. So if he wants the Zarethian planet to be their first contact or whatever and wants to attempt a siege, the only reason he really necessarily needs is 'The Magister fleet was derping along through the galaxy and saw a random desert planet with a few settlements. They decided it was a really awesome and shiny desert planet and attacked it, intending to lay claim.' And honestly that's something that most people can either infer it just don't care about.
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It's been two days. Either respond or give up the argument.
Some people actually like to RP on this site, and getting held up on EVERY single thing I do is getting annoying.
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Nothing to say? Well cool; I remade the topic. Get posting Zak.
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Thanks for deleting my post; fucking cockbite.
Alright. I've had my topic locked THREE times for something OTHER staff disagree with, and the only one at all who has any problem with it is you. You're outnumbered and are acting like a fucking child.
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Agreed. Hikaru, you've brought up one good point this entire time and it's been riddled with holes a thousand times over. Why isn't corruption in staff illegal? Seriously, the only reason you're doing this is because you have a problem with Orph. That's it. You're destroying his posts IC for OOC reasons, and ironically you justify it with accusations of metagaming. Get over yourself, You're not the center of the universe, you're not even the center of this forum. Right now, you're just acting like a bratty little kid. And I mean, I thought my arguments with you were bad! This is literally the most unprofessional thing I have ever seen on a forum. GROW UP!