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Title: Memorial Day 2012
Post by: Admiral Regis Hermitage on May 27, 2012, 02:11:01 PM
Happy Memorial Day! If you don't celebrate, then you're a Terrorist and a Communist... that it all
-Lyoko222
Your local forum's Right wing extremist.


(Repost from last year)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nA5wT5wQ38
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2012
Post by: Beware Ye Who Enter Here on May 27, 2012, 02:15:19 PM
I do believe that would be tomorrow, Lyoko. Just saying.
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2012
Post by: Admiral Regis Hermitage on May 27, 2012, 02:23:39 PM
Fuck... Damn NASCAR race. Made me think it was today.
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2012
Post by: Beware Ye Who Enter Here on May 27, 2012, 02:25:29 PM
Epic fail for the Right Wing Extremist. :P
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2012
Post by: Admiral Regis Hermitage on May 27, 2012, 02:26:41 PM
*Rolls eyes*
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2012
Post by: Beware Ye Who Enter Here on May 27, 2012, 02:27:34 PM
Bravo sir, I salute your inability to remember national holidays with great pride! Now go post on Tefillin. :P
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2012
Post by: Admiral Regis Hermitage on May 27, 2012, 02:28:37 PM
*Salutes*

YES SIR, SERGEANT DICKHEAD!

*Runs to Teffilin Forum*
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2012
Post by: Beware Ye Who Enter Here on May 27, 2012, 02:29:31 PM
Oh look, I have my own personal staff laphound. What fun this will be.
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2012
Post by: Queen Bright on May 27, 2012, 02:55:58 PM
Why would it be Sunday if people get off school and work for it? That makes no sense. (http://shatteredplanes.com/forum/Smileys/lunarolleye.png)
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2012
Post by: King Jeebus on May 27, 2012, 03:06:10 PM
Im british and what is this
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2012
Post by: Beware Ye Who Enter Here on May 27, 2012, 03:08:36 PM
Memorial Day is essentially a day that celebrates the United States military by remembering those who have fallen in the line of duty.
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2012
Post by: Admiral Regis Hermitage on May 27, 2012, 04:08:27 PM
Memorial Day is essentially a day that celebrates the United States military by remembering those who have fallen in the line of duty.

Hoorah
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2012
Post by: Ghost on May 27, 2012, 06:20:40 PM
Geez Lyoko, not everyone knows about this day. Besides, I'm heading home that day, so nothing special going on for me.
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2012
Post by: Admiral Regis Hermitage on May 27, 2012, 06:33:58 PM
Foreigners are exempt
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2012
Post by: Queen Bright on May 27, 2012, 06:49:02 PM
Buck the military? The Military is an authority.
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Title: Re: Memorial Day 2012
Post by: Admiral Regis Hermitage on May 27, 2012, 06:58:48 PM
How is the Military an Authority?

When you get arrested, you dont get arrested by the Military. The Military are a defense force that fights foreign enemies. Without the military, you wouldnt be free.
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2012
Post by: Kalorph_ on May 27, 2012, 07:36:37 PM
I'm going to agree with Rage here; the military is a force of volunteers protecting our nation. It's the government that's the authority, and while the military MAY be an extension of that authority they are also deserving of our respect and gratitude.
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2012
Post by: Embodiment of Cringe on May 28, 2012, 12:02:27 AM
While I don't think the military is a proper authority...

The military now has the power to detain US citizens without due process (No trial, no way to fight back, no way to present your case, anything.) for any reason whatsoever due to the NDAA bill that was signed in December.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/01/02/president-obama-signed-the-national-defense-authorization-act-now-what/

Sooo yeah... While they may not be an authority, they certainly can and will act like it.
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2012
Post by: Admiral Regis Hermitage on May 28, 2012, 01:15:11 AM
While I don't think the military is a proper authority...

The military now has the power to detain US citizens without due process (No trial, no way to fight back, no way to present your case, anything.) for any reason whatsoever due to the NDAA bill that was signed in December.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/01/02/president-obama-signed-the-national-defense-authorization-act-now-what/

Sooo yeah... While they may not be an authority, they certainly can and will act like it.

Only if they are a threat to national security. Even then, the military wouldn't detain them. A domestic law enforcement agency would.
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2012
Post by: Beware Ye Who Enter Here on May 28, 2012, 08:34:00 AM
Lyoko, the problem is that they can claim you're a threat to national security and theres is very little - if anything - you can do to oppose them.
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2012
Post by: Admiral Regis Hermitage on May 28, 2012, 03:02:42 PM
But, once again, it is not the military that comes for you. Its going to be a government law enforcement agency.
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2012
Post by: Beware Ye Who Enter Here on May 28, 2012, 10:47:55 PM
Except it says that the military can detain you. Which means you'll be handed over to the military or the government agency will be under military control. Either way, the government can do whatever the hell it wants.
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2012
Post by: Admiral Regis Hermitage on May 28, 2012, 11:16:49 PM
Except it says that the military can detain you. Which means you'll be handed over to the military or the government agency will be under military control. Either way, the government can do whatever the hell it wants.

This is not the military's fault though. It is the people's fault for not realizing that the government is overstepping its own power.
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2012
Post by: Nisorin on May 29, 2012, 12:40:30 AM
It is the military's fault, actually, because the people in the military also had the ability to fight back against the indefinite detention bill. EVERY American did, be it citizen, politician or soldier.

Second, the military is not a volunteer thing, it is a paid occupation. You do get paid for being a part of the United States Armed Forces, regardless of branch.

Finally, I support the soldiers themselves, but I do not support the military. Until we get someone in command who actually has the expertise, common sense and humanity to be able to handle the position without doing something stupid with it, which has happened far too many times across our history to be acceptable, I will not support the military, regardless of their accomplishments. I also think memorial day is a bad way to express our gratitude, since the soldiers don't get any actual reprieve from it. They are still fighting, still working their asses off in extremely dangerous places. A better way to show gratitude would be to pool together the money to send them better body armor, boots, and other supplies that will actually benefit them, instead of endless words and verbal encouragement. After all, if you were over there which would you rather? Some random person's prayer, or a brand new bulletproof vest rated to protect against more kinds of ammunition? Or perhaps a new package of medical supplies for your squad's medic, if your squad's lucky enough to have one?
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2012
Post by: Admiral Regis Hermitage on May 29, 2012, 01:37:12 AM
Well, the soldiers dont have a choice to speak out against the government, because their direct commander-in-chief is the president of the USA. The military is a volunteer force. People voluntarily sign up, if you dont count the draft way back when. I support the Soldiers, and the military, but i do not support the Legislative or Executive branches. The military have no say in the laws that are passed Nisorin. They have no say in congress. The NDAA was passed by congress, NOT the military.
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2012
Post by: K2 on May 29, 2012, 12:43:11 PM
The military serves and answers to the civilian government, which we elect, thus we are the authority, and thus we the people are to blame for the corruption. The military is a very honorable thing. They keep us safe. What's not honorable are the actions often taken by the CIVILIANS we elect -- actions like the particular clause in the NDAA, starting unnecessary wars (Afghanistan and parts of the Iraq war were necessary, but we do interfere in foreign politics way too much). Someone once said, ""In a democracy, people get the government they deserve."

The NDAA was indeed passed by Congress, and signed by our President. They, and by proxy, we the people are to blame for the NDAA, and following this logic only we can fix the injustice by electing the right leadership to office.

Finally, I'd like to thank the brave men and women who sacrificed their lives for our protection.
Title: Re: Memorial Day 2012
Post by: Nisorin on May 29, 2012, 07:47:16 PM
...Mr. Cato, people serving in the military can vote. They can, should they have access to pretty much any modern communication, be it internet, a phone or even snail mail, voice their concerns to the relevant politicians. They have the ability to shape the laws of this country just the same as us who don't serve.

/me bops you upside the head