Shattered Planes Archives (Seasons 4 & 5)
The Board => Archive => Void => Topic started by: Admiral Regis Hermitage on July 20, 2012, 01:23:59 AM
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A new force has just arrived... A force of which no one has ever seen before. A new entity has entered the Shattered Planes, and he is not here to make friends. He is the Alpha. The originator of most technology, and off all computers. The base code.
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj194/lyoko222/Alpha.png)
At 0400 hours, Galactic Standard Time, all electronic technology, computers, ect were taken over by the entity known as Alpha. In every screen, on every world the above emblem was displayed along with the following message displayed, and spoken.
For eons I have observed you, and for eons I have stood by watching you tear each other apart. You wield that which I have given to you, and that you hold so dearly, to destroy each other in pointless conflict. You no longer deserve to wield these powers. You no longer deserve your own advancements, WELCOME TO THE STONE AGE VERMIN. THIS IS YOUR GENESIS ?AND YOUR REVELATION. Welcome home.
Can the civilizations of the SP band together and stop this threat? Or will they turn their heads in ignorance or fear? With no magic, or advanced technology, who can tell.
Welcome to the Stone Age
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Starting now, or...?
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Yes, now.
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Not all technology would be debunked by taking away computers and code. Take a revolver for ex ample. It's a metal bit pulled into another metal bit that ignites the powder in the bullet. No code involved. Other technology will fit the same standards.
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And i have clarified that to anybody who asked about it. Simple machines are not affected.
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Simple machines/machinery not powered by electricity and AI. As Lyoko has said is chat yesterday, AI want to seek out Alpha, electronics are dead, but machinery without electricity will still work.
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Yeah, no. Fuck this. Im sorry, but this is just the most utterly stupid thing that could've happened to the site. Yes, the no magic thing was interesting and all but without electronic technology pretty much every faction is screwed over. You all dont seem to get this but most ships are controlled via computers, these computers control the fine aspects of a ships working such as destination jumps, FTL travel and, oh, you know LIFE SUPPORT. With this one OOC move you've doomed more people then have ever died in IC fights. A quarter of the Zarethian Empire is spacebound. Congrats, with neither magic nor electronic computing technology, they're now going to die of asphyxiation. As if that wasnt bad enough, each of the planets would be cut off from one another and the already fragile situation is going to devolve into something akin to a post-apocalyptic situation.
And that's not just the Zarethian Empire, that'll happen aaaaaaaaaall over to advanced civilizations being flung back to the pre-information era.
Oh and I didnt mention the Mechera did I? Since theyre not AI but must use electronics to interact with their robotic body, well, they're essentially trapped in their cyberspace reality and cant get out or influence the real world at all. So, essentially, whats happened with Swift's planet where she has been prevented from RPing? Yeah, you're screwing over Hiro with that in this move.
So, uh, unless this move is retconned... well, you've just shot any previous interest in the board I've had and have lost a member. Thanks guys.
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Hikaru BSed the attack on my planet. The attack 'never happened'. What prevented me from rping really was cap's neglect to get issues solved and/or not posting in the topic AT ALL. Partially this issue was because the IC topic was locked, but it was to be unlocked when everything was resolved. It didn't appear to solved on the OOC topic and then Cap and Nik said that they came to a conclusion for these issues(Which they never posted). So really, inactivity on the invasion was the main issue. But it's no nulled so nothing appears to have happened to the planet.
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Announcement. People who were not active until this event started (Zak, Cap, ect) have no right to bitch at me or the staff. Additionally, people who didnt have any better fucking ideas have no right as well.
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Announcement: You're not even active Lyoko! Ive not seen one real IC post in any of the topics that I know you're in with the Zarethian Empire and you essentially killed the Hell takeover topic. You also havent been exercising your administrative approval rights on the three things I requested a week ago, something that has been keeping me from using my new ideas! Other then that I'm stuck waiting on K2. So I may bitch if I want to.
ALSO: In case no one here is a fan of Red vs Blue, yeah, nice take with the "Alpha AI" Bs. If you wanted plot ideas you could've, you know, asked before making a move that destroyed everything we've previously built.
And Swift: I meant they're essentially putting him in stasis where he cant post with them at all.
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Even though the 2 are nothing alike? I was gonig for more of a HAL 9000 type thing.
And also Zak, i was away for a good while in July for work. That is why i havent been doing them.
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You're here now aren't you so you're just as active as me.
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In my opinion, this was a rather... ridiculous move to also deny technology because the Vionix fleet is now trapped around Luna City and unable to do anything. Then again all of their ships are controlled by AI so the entire fleet will try and find "Alpha" which makes the Vionix unable to do anything. No magic means that Lazule is unable to do anything as well.... so I'm pretty much disabled on this site now as well. I think that this idea should be removed and maybe something like Alpha has infected an ancient fleet that is invading the galaxies and is trying to spread? to actually give us a chance to fight back.
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Instead of just defaulting to this defeatist attitude, try RPing it out, deal with this and find a way to use it to better your characters/empires/races/yourselves. Yes, this is a MASSIVE challenge. Complaining isn't going to do anything. Deal with it.
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What if we dont want to deal with the Staff taking away our work? Right now it seems that our fleets are disabled and without life support we cant have the fleet crew survive. I for one dont want to hve to deal with staff members who forcefully slaughter large sections of our empire and take out all the time wwe've spent requesting ships and stuff.
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This event is way to dumb. I'm sorry but right now there is no magic. With this event you are killing technology. That pretty much will end everything. We can't go anywhere without technology. Also your Alpha is a paradox. It wants to destroy all technology yet it is technology. Any one else see the problem there? If you just tell it that statement it will be forced to kill itself.
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After a few days of not being on the site I've decided to say what I honestly think about this event.
This is by far the stupidest idea I have ever seen on Shattered Planes. I could go watch Megapiranna or MegaShark vs Giant Octopus to see far greater than tenfold the intelligence that went into this thought. The wording on my previous sentence makes is better than the idea of this event.
For the record, I've seen dozens of fictional stories that prove loosing tech can be great. I cite my first example as Jericho, a CBS serial I liked as a kid about the US after a nuclear strike taking out most major cities as well as the power supply. However, this is shattered planes. We've just lost magic. This is bad timing. Yet I can forgive that.
What I cannot forgive is the explanation. The idea of all tech coming from a single being hat is tech is insanely stupid. The idea of all code being derivative from a single source is stupid enough to begin with, especially for a multiple-person RP. I've wanted to make my characters, the Heliphlein, different. They came about hidden from the rest of the universe and have developed tech from scratch. Their pixels are supposed to be hexagons rather than squares. There is literally no way that Alpha could connect to their systems through this explanation, unless you said that it was just that good. However, we've been through this before. Hikaru and Nisorin shut me out when I tried to request a ship that could hack into a ship of different technology without it be metagaming. As they said it, no Hollywood hacking. The Alpha is something that has already been demonstrated illeagle be SP precedent. Zak has contacted me about quitting SP over this, and frankly, I agree. I'm leaving SP for the duration of this event or until staff comes to their senses and mulls it entirely.
Nikkeirstead@gmail.com if you need to contact me.
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You people are all being a bunch of whinny little kids... You quit the site because something happened that doesnt go your way, or benefit you. You never even stopped to ask yourselves, "How can i make this fun for myself?" or "How can i help defeat this enemy?" but NO. You all want to sit back, and fucking complain 24/7. If you all were more active, then maybe it wouldnt have came to this. If you all would have given myself, or Hik a better idea, we would have taken it. If you quit, then you quit. At this point, if you are going to act like children, then we dont need you here anyway. So suck it up, or get out.
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You really want us to get out, Lyoko? Thats, what? Me, Hiro, Nik, Nisorin and Logan that have complained about this stupid event? Me and Hiro are gonna quit? Thats one admin and one regular staffer on a site that doesnt have many people to begin with.
And, once again, you pull the idea card. How many times have I told you that NOT ONCE DID YOU ASK FOR IDEAS. Not. Once. If you did, everyone would've been able to pitch in. Hell, I would've loved to help but generallly when people give advice on plot stuff to the staff on this site they're treated to a "Yeah, sure we'll take into consideration (and by consideration we mean ignore it)"
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Well this was a very special time... Hik and I were desperate. So, the blame doesnt solely rest upon me.
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And, once again, you pull the idea card. How many times have I told you that NOT ONCE DID YOU ASK FOR IDEAS. Not. Once. If you did, everyone would've been able to pitch in. Hell, I would've loved to help but generallly when people give advice on plot stuff to the staff on this site they're treated to a "Yeah, sure we'll take into consideration (and by consideration we mean ignore it)"
I did remember a topic asking about ideas favored by other users, but no ideas in general were said.
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A very desperate time? There are plenty of people in the memberbase and even another staffer! Why didnt you take Hiro's voice into consideration? Or, perhaps just wait it out until K2 and Jeebus were back? There was no reason to be desperate! SP has seen faaaaar worse then a few weeks of inactivity!
And I never saw any such topic, Swift and at least three times a week I've come on all summer and looked through the recent topics.
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you started the damn topic yourself (http://shatteredplanes.com/forum/index.php?topic=5837.0)
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Zak, the fact is that what's done is done. The event has alredy started, and now you have a choice. Help finish it, or wallow in your own self-pity and complain about everything. If you chose the second, then this site is obviously not for you. I was willing to compromise with Hiro as to not extinct the Elementals, and i am still willing to compromise with others, but you would know that if you werent complaining so much.
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I have no self pity, Lyoko. Its a simple fact that no one likes the event that you've created. If you have the life support on? Fine. I can deal with that as I said I would. If theres life support then I can work with it.
Swift: Im not the staff now am I? I dont have the backing power. Now, had the staff actually asked for help...
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And i've stated somewhere that Alpha wants peace, so doming trillions to their deaths would be rather counter-productive in his eyes.
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Fine. I'll work with it. Also... May want to keep the RvB references out of plots, Lyoko. I know you're a Halo fan but Alpha AI? Hm... seems a bit fishy to me...
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Lyoko, I am not complaining that things didn't go my way. I am not even complaining about the direction they went in. Like I said, I'm fine with that. I, however, am not at all fine with the explanation for it. It has got to be one of the stupidest ideas for a story I have ever heard of. Possibly THE stupidest idea for a story I have ever heard of. Next time, skrew inactivity, wait for backup, and push the three or four events we already have going on.
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Swift: Im not the staff now am I? I dont have the backing power. Now, had the staff actually asked for help...
So what? Event ideas are event ideas. If the staff paid attention to what the members want, then events would actually benefit the majority of the users. If any ideas were actually posted here instead of 'I want an event that's like this and that to benefit me.' Those aren't really ideas. If they posted the idea title and a description, things might be different.
Who cares if you're staff or not? Ideas are ideas. If the staff like it(or the majority of the members) then they should use the idea.
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.The idea of all code being derivative from a single source is stupid enough to begin with, especially for a multiple-person RP. I've wanted to make my characters, the Heliphlein, different. They came about hidden from the rest of the universe and have developed tech from scratch. Their pixels are supposed to be hexagons rather than squares. There is literally no way that Alpha could connect to their systems through this explanation, unless you said that it was just that good. However, we've been through this before. Hikaru and Nisorin shut me out when I tried to request a ship that could hack into a ship of different technology without it be metagaming. As they said it, no Hollywood hacking.
Actually, all code ALL code is based from binary. We shut you out because it would take years. However if a being is purely binary and in a way an embodiment of that base code, then yes they could in theory take over all code in existence. Because every computer reads binary in the end.
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Swift: As well, my topic was what TYPE of event they wanted. What they wanted it to focus on between battling, characterization or the like. I dont see how you didnt get that considering it was a giant freaking poll!
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.The idea of all code being derivative from a single source is stupid enough to begin with, especially for a multiple-person RP. I've wanted to make my characters, the Heliphlein, different. They came about hidden from the rest of the universe and have developed tech from scratch. Their pixels are supposed to be hexagons rather than squares. There is literally no way that Alpha could connect to their systems through this explanation, unless you said that it was just that good. However, we've been through this before. Hikaru and Nisorin shut me out when I tried to request a ship that could hack into a ship of different technology without it be metagaming. As they said it, no Hollywood hacking.
Actually, all code ALL code is based from binary. We shut you out because it would take years. However if a being is purely binary and in a way an embodiment of that base code, then yes they could in theory take over all code in existence. Because every computer reads binary in the end.
That is a matter of opinion. See as all our computers derive from one point all of them do use binary. But that doesn't mean that all alien technology is going to the same thing as the rest of us. I mean what if they use a different form of binary that is in fact not binary at all. That is a very narrow minded assumption to be honest.
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Swift: As well, my topic was what TYPE of event they wanted. What they wanted it to focus on between battling, characterization or the like. I dont see how you didnt get that considering it was a giant freaking poll!
It's still the type of topic used to generate ideas.
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It was more designed to show the staff what kind of event we wanted as opposed to, you know, tournament after tournament.
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It was more designed to show the staff what kind of event we wanted as opposed to, you know, tournament after tournament.
regardless, it should hand out ideas so they don&t have to reuse ideas.
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No, Swift. Thats not at all what it was meant for. We were letting the staff come up with the event ideas but we were showing them what type of event we preferred. Completely different subjects.
Besides, the staff generally make it pretty clear about what they think about members giving plot ideas. It usually goes along the lines of "We'll take it under consideration *shoves in drawer to be forgotten about*"
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when they're desperate, shove the idea in their face. ._.
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We didnt know they were desperate! They never let on that they wanted us to help with ideas or could use the help! Instead they eventually just shoved this very unpopular event in our faces, seemingly without regard to how we may react.
They didnt even ask the other staff member what he thought about it. They just went through with it. If they had asked, put up a topic like Hiro's done, then I wouldve given ideas, Nik would've given ideas... But now they've gone and pissed people off or driven some away.
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And this is a reason of why this board fails so badly.