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To fight injustice in Cali!
« on: May 26, 2011, 03:12:11 PM »
Yeah, the hearing is tomorrow, and I'm taking off today to Cali. Taking my laptop and phone, but probably won't be on much as I have a law book to study, a trial notebook to write, and evidence to highlight. If I'm on, it'll most likely be mobile AIM.

Hopefully I'll win and bring Gaser back to the online world.
....If all goes as I want it to.
If not. Well, I STILL REFUSE TO GIVE UP!

Later all.

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Re: To fight injustice in Cali!
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2011, 03:36:20 PM »
Brb, making Regina Richards: Ace Attorney

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Re: To fight injustice in Cali!
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2011, 04:33:25 PM »
Think positive, and know you can win it! That's the other half the battle.
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Re: To fight injustice in Cali!
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2011, 05:57:50 PM »
Unless she pulls some massive nuke-equivalent of falsified evidence out of her ass, you're pretty much all set. The trick is getting him back online, since getting rid of the RO only enables you to contact him again.
Seeing the world through a child's eyes is truly a unique experience. It helps you to retrieve that sense of awe, magic and wonder that you lost as you lost your innocence. Tell me, when was the last time that you thought of those childhood dreams? You know, the ones that you used to spend all your time wondering and fantasizing about? Have you forgotten them so easily? Have you forgotten what it felt like to see something for the first time, to see the magic in the mundane? Everyone says you should take the time to 'Stop and smell the roses'. But you should also take the time to look for the fairies, embrace the wind and enjoy the rain. Just once today, stop for a moment and look into that little piece of nature you pass everyday. Perhaps you may see something you did not notice before.

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Re: To fight injustice in Cali!
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2011, 06:01:18 PM »
Oh, for the love of god bring chatlogs and call me! I want to tell that bitch a piece of my mind. >:(
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Re: To fight injustice in Cali!
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2011, 01:57:57 PM »
....Lost

All because he's a special needs child with autism and depression. And the mother feels that severing his friendship with us will be better for him and let him move on with life...

Judge did do one thing though, she said it'd only be for 6 months to see how Gaser is after that, and then the mother can re-issue. If she feels the need, but that the Judge hopes she'd have a change of heart....

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Re: To fight injustice in Cali!
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2011, 02:04:04 PM »
Ouch, well, we can wait for a while, his mother is going to get a massive surprise when he "wanders' off when he turns 18.
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Re: To fight injustice in Cali!
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2011, 02:04:49 PM »
Sorry to hear about it Reg. :(
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Re: To fight injustice in Cali!
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2011, 10:01:33 PM »
The problem with that, Orph, is that since he's a special needs child, his mother can file to remove his rights that he gains from turning 18.

You should have pointed out that we have other special needs kids here. I know we have at least one.
Seeing the world through a child's eyes is truly a unique experience. It helps you to retrieve that sense of awe, magic and wonder that you lost as you lost your innocence. Tell me, when was the last time that you thought of those childhood dreams? You know, the ones that you used to spend all your time wondering and fantasizing about? Have you forgotten them so easily? Have you forgotten what it felt like to see something for the first time, to see the magic in the mundane? Everyone says you should take the time to 'Stop and smell the roses'. But you should also take the time to look for the fairies, embrace the wind and enjoy the rain. Just once today, stop for a moment and look into that little piece of nature you pass everyday. Perhaps you may see something you did not notice before.

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Re: To fight injustice in Cali!
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2011, 10:05:45 PM »
I did... I pointed out all my disorders as well, I pointed out everything. But because his asutism let's him be easily influenced, his friendship with us needs to be cut off so that he might get well and 'function.

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Re: To fight injustice in Cali!
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2011, 10:18:22 PM »
Pointing out your disorders might have been a mistake, and it might have been used against you when the Judge gave his decision. Or something. I dunno a lot about how hearings work.

At any rate, don't let it get you down. Maybe it'll take a while, but we'll see him eventually.
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Re: To fight injustice in Cali!
« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2011, 03:53:32 PM »
It didn't make a difference if I did or didn't.
Here's what happened...

Before we went, I printed one last thing that I found on http://civilharassment.com
http://www.civilharassment.com/property_dispute_points_and.html this thing.
True it wasn't a property dispute, but the parts in that were it says "must have substantial emotional distress," and "must be directed at the platintiff," and such were really good points. So I rushed to a kinko's in Torrance and paid to get 3 copies of that and highlighted it in the car to the courthouse.

So, we showed up and his mothers sitting outside the courthouse. Large sunglasses, and not saying a word to anyone.
Could easily automatically assume who it was though, both my grandmother and mother even said she looked a bit insane and not all there.

Anyways, court opened, and they let everyone inside. This is when I Found out to my surprise, the mother had hired a lawyer. She hadn't had one last time, so this must have been just recently. Went up to the court clerk to sign in and gave her a copy of the law I had printed to give to the judge before the trial and motion a dismissal based on the points brought out.

Well, after watching the few other cases in there. We were called up. We both gave our opening statements then the judge right away pointed out the document I had given her and said it held truth and was correct and well highlighted for the parts that I needed. But then..... the mothers lawyer gave the judge a disposition or declaration (couldn't hear which), which was like as big as a book. The judge sat there reading the whole thing and then looked to us both and said she'd like to hold it in chambers. (Yeah, from a hearing to a mediation just like that -.-)

We followed her to her chambers and she had us all sit down and said because it was a case with a minor that was damn near an adult and such she'd like to hold it in chambers as a mediation to come to an agreement before an actual hearing.  Here's where it gets surprising. The judge said she knew the case and had read EVERYTHING that I had sent, all the chatlogs, the email logs, the website topics, which was around 100+ papers, she had read it all as well as my filed answer and brought out how both Gaser and I were intelligent and that the mother didn't understand this, and that she didn't see why Gaser couldn't testify himself.

...That would have been good. Except she then said she didn't know how to handle it on whether she should call in a specialist and postpone it so GAser could be interviewed for his side or to continue on. Finally she decided to hear our sides. (Dammit!)

Well... She asked the mother for her side of the story first, of course. Because the mother was the plaintiff.The mother got through as my grandma and I sat very quiet uninterrupting through it all. Then the Judge looked to me for my side. I read off my side of the story that I had written in about 5 pages the night before at the hotel, along with everything that had happened and feelings towards it all, intentions, motivations, etc.

The mother interrupted, but the judge kept her quiet till I was finished. ...We would have won there, as the mother kept trying to butt in, and such. If not for her lawyer and the fact Gaser is autistic.

Now here's where it gets annoying. Her Lawyer held up a doctors note saying his doctor has said because Gaser is autistic and gets influenced easily I have brainwashed him, and co-erced him into running away, etc. That it will take at least a year or more for them to properly unwash his brain.

The judge said she didn't believe I had brainwashed him (after I brought out how real brainwash works, and how it's a captor captive situation and nothing about just social talk.)

But then the mother butted in again and said how ever since she cut off contact he's doing BEAUTIFULLY, never any interest in sports, and now he's out doing basketball, playing with friends, as happy as can be and improving. (LIES, LIES, LIES, LIES! More lies.)

Finally, after back and forth sides of how contact is not influencing him and there's other things going on in his life that causes such rebellious actions coupled with the fact he's 17 and thus the damn rebellious age for most teenagers vs her saying how torn up she was over him running away and how if he did that again he would wind up sick, and possibly dead. (Umm he was fine here.)

The judge ruled that she'd make it for 6 months to see how Gaser is. Since the mother and doctors testify that he's improving, the 'friendship, should be severed, ' and they'd see how he was in 6 months from now. She hoped that the mother would have a change of heart by then, etc. Of course the mother was sitting over there, "No. No contact ever. No, no, no," while she was saying that.

...And that's how it went. No real hearing. Stupid mediation. I would have won if not for the mother pulling the run away and 'brainwashing' as means of emotional distress. If not for that note, he'd have been interviewed and crap.

...Points of humor,
The judge asked the mother to take off her sunglasses when we were in there. The mothers reaction? "I don't want to be identified., I don't feel safe." Judge made her take them off anyways.
The judge asked the mother where Gaser was at the moment, and she's all "I'd like to say that in private. I don't want her (me) knowing where he's at." The judge made her say anyways, home. (As if we couldn't already guess.)

So the judge was nice... But the mother lied through the whole thing and pulled out doctors who didn't know a damn things witness testimony. And that's how we lost.

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Re: To fight injustice in Cali!
« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2011, 08:38:24 PM »
Doctor's aren't all that well on fully identifying how the brain works, from what I've witnessed they can only do the simplest of things. The judge should have wavered that, even though yes the doctor has a degree in medicine and has studied, because only a psychiatrist can probably really, truly, identify these things. Just like they should have had Gaser there and having him testify, even in private, because it is HIS welfare that you guys are fighting over.

Gaser told me he didn't really have friends, I don't think he cares for sports except maybe basketball though I'm not sure. As for the fact that Gaser is doing fine? Then why is he planning on leaving anyway? Not to mention the judge should have asked him to be there, as in make another hearing/mediation, so she/he can witness Gaser's state. They need people who know what they're doing, exactly, to be fully aware on where Gaser's mental state is. I'm sure the judge knew that but she couldn't prove that because, obviously, the mother lied and failed to bring Gaser in. What a retarded bitch. -.-

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Re: To fight injustice in Cali!
« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2011, 08:54:10 PM »
Hik, I believe one other person here is a diagnosed autistic, but I'd rather he say himself rather than I say it. You've admitted you're bipolar, and I'm sure just about the rest of us have something.
Seeing the world through a child's eyes is truly a unique experience. It helps you to retrieve that sense of awe, magic and wonder that you lost as you lost your innocence. Tell me, when was the last time that you thought of those childhood dreams? You know, the ones that you used to spend all your time wondering and fantasizing about? Have you forgotten them so easily? Have you forgotten what it felt like to see something for the first time, to see the magic in the mundane? Everyone says you should take the time to 'Stop and smell the roses'. But you should also take the time to look for the fairies, embrace the wind and enjoy the rain. Just once today, stop for a moment and look into that little piece of nature you pass everyday. Perhaps you may see something you did not notice before.

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Re: To fight injustice in Cali!
« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2011, 11:31:34 PM »
Damn.... that sucks Dick. We all have problems. Me? I have Major Depressive Disorder, I'm on this site every day and I even deal with some of the staff and member drama! And I'm fucking fine.... given though, that I'm neither autistic nor socially awkward, but that's neither here nor there.

We all turned to the internet for some reason.. and that reason is our own and people should just fucking accept it.
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Re: To fight injustice in Cali!
« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2011, 11:18:22 AM »
I've been diagnosed with very severe chronic depression, and there have been some speculation about some high-functioning forms of autism.
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Re: To fight injustice in Cali!
« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2011, 02:33:30 PM »
LE GASP. I FEEL SO NORMAL AND SANE NOW. :O

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Re: To fight injustice in Cali!
« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2011, 02:57:59 PM »
I've got...
Aspergers, Hypochondria, Anxiey, BiPolar, OCD, ODD, Asocial, and mild depression.
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« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2011, 03:11:05 PM »
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Re: To fight injustice in Cali!
« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2011, 03:13:25 PM »
I'm normal. Completely normal.
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Re: To fight injustice in Cali!
« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2011, 04:52:31 PM »
I have no idea what I have. My parents say I may have a small bit of aspergers since my brother has a lot of it, but I can't say I do.
Then again, I'm probably blind as to what I have.
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Re: To fight injustice in Cali!
« Reply #21 on: May 31, 2011, 07:04:35 PM »
I have decided to appeal it.
 
The more I think about it. The decision was made on the interest of Gaser or so because the mother suffered emotional distress DUE to him running away. Not harassment. The whole damn case was over civil harassment, running away, 'brainwash,' and the like have nothing to do with that as they don't fall under civil harassment. So what the hell happened?It was supposed to be over emails and calls that are harassment. But they were never proved or even effected the decision..

That right there is a legal error and I believe gives me fair grounds for this,
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It is important to understand that an appeal is NOT a
new trial. The appellate division will not consider new
evidence, such as the testimony of new witnesses or new
exhibits. The appellate division?s job is to review a
record of what happened in the trial court and the trial
court?s decision to see if certain kinds of legal errors
were made.

So.. we haven't lost yet! Though by the time of all the appeal papers it'll be a month or two.. Ugh. 90 days to appeal, 10 days to notice, 30 days to brief, and 90 days for the appelliate court to decided x.x Still worth it!
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Re: To fight injustice in Cali!
« Reply #22 on: June 14, 2011, 10:11:52 PM »
Maybe... D;