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Re: Abel
« Reply #200 on: May 17, 2010, 04:10:42 PM »
Yes but his arm is more of a threat. He could absorb Kai, K2323, Hikaru, Koty, Rogue, Vincent along with all the embodiments/incarnations on the board. Not to mention that now he possesses StarClan power to some extent thanks to that arm which of course is annoying to me.

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Re: Abel
« Reply #201 on: May 17, 2010, 04:31:40 PM »
He could, if they get hit by it. The thing is, you guys are all focusing on what it does, but you don't bother to think about what it takes for him to use it. Yes, he touches you he can absorb you. But he has to:


  • Get close enough to touch you.
  • Not get hit while trying to touch you.
  • Actually successfully get more than just a glancing blow.
  • As I'm sure the process isn't instantaneous, he'd have to keep contact while absorbing.
  • Once he's actually absorbed you, he's got to vent the absorbed energy quickly to prevent harming himself.
That's a fair list for such an ability, and makes it almost as dangerous to himself as it is to those he attacks with it. Even if he does absorb you. And not only that, you also forget just how rare CQC is on this site. Most people use guns and magic, very rarely do people run up to their enemies and slash at them with a sword, or swing a mace at them. That makes it even more difficult.


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Re: Abel
« Reply #202 on: May 17, 2010, 05:14:56 PM »
Similarly, not everyone's heard of the Lorcar.
True, but they're horrifying in and of themselves, and they actually need to kill you first. Its pretty clear their intentions as soon as you see them zerg-rushing you while eating your family as snacks. His arm? Sure, its grotesque, but it wouldn't instill a massive sense of terror in you if you didn't know what it did already.

As for Nisorin!

1st point:Actually, I happen to enjoy close-combat to a degree. Im sure I ain't the only one.
2nd:Im sure its not hard to block with something incapable of being destroyed.
3rd:Perhaps, though the fact that there isn't anything restricting its movement makes it far more accurate.
4th:This has never been stated. He'd need to get confirmation on that matter. That being said, again, its indestructible. Probably not easy to remove if he gets a grip on ya.
5th:I hardly see Kivith worrying about this...He'd probably just get it over with.

And again, while Hiro will probably not follow this, I prefer close-combat. Its not gonna be as rare with me around here, most likely, and Im sure that there are others as well who prefer such a fighting style.
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Re: Abel
« Reply #203 on: May 17, 2010, 05:32:59 PM »
As far as I have seen, you are the only one. The rest of us prefer to use our magic rather than our swords (or in Iroku's case, fists.) And how hard it is to block depends on Abel's CQC ability, what attack he's blocking, what weapon is behind the attack, Abel's tolerance for pain, and the attacker's martial skill. And yes there are things restricting its movement. Clothing, any seals his opponent may place on him (or the arm specifically), the bones are shaped to move in certain directions only and must be either broken or dislocated to move in other directions, which would indeed be painful for him. And it doesn't really need to be stated, as it's rather obvious to prevent godmodding. He is, after all, absorbing a person AND his/her parallels.
Seeing the world through a child's eyes is truly a unique experience. It helps you to retrieve that sense of awe, magic and wonder that you lost as you lost your innocence. Tell me, when was the last time that you thought of those childhood dreams? You know, the ones that you used to spend all your time wondering and fantasizing about? Have you forgotten them so easily? Have you forgotten what it felt like to see something for the first time, to see the magic in the mundane? Everyone says you should take the time to 'Stop and smell the roses'. But you should also take the time to look for the fairies, embrace the wind and enjoy the rain. Just once today, stop for a moment and look into that little piece of nature you pass everyday. Perhaps you may see something you did not notice before.

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Re: Abel
« Reply #204 on: May 17, 2010, 05:42:21 PM »
By all means, I dont see how he'd feel pain in said arm, as there are no nerves...Its only bones...

And using magic is not exclusive of close-combat. What, you dont think anyone's (IC, and not our characters specifically) ever lit their sword on fire or made it so their lance can freeze people when stabbing?
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Re: Abel
« Reply #205 on: May 17, 2010, 08:07:46 PM »
They're usually too busy standing away from their foe, firing off spell after spell to counter those spells coming at them, and attacking with spells of their own.
Seeing the world through a child's eyes is truly a unique experience. It helps you to retrieve that sense of awe, magic and wonder that you lost as you lost your innocence. Tell me, when was the last time that you thought of those childhood dreams? You know, the ones that you used to spend all your time wondering and fantasizing about? Have you forgotten them so easily? Have you forgotten what it felt like to see something for the first time, to see the magic in the mundane? Everyone says you should take the time to 'Stop and smell the roses'. But you should also take the time to look for the fairies, embrace the wind and enjoy the rain. Just once today, stop for a moment and look into that little piece of nature you pass everyday. Perhaps you may see something you did not notice before.

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Re: Abel
« Reply #206 on: May 17, 2010, 08:42:09 PM »
Well, Abel has limits to WHO he can absorb as well. He can't absorb embodiments or Koty, since they are Divine entities.
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Re: Abel
« Reply #207 on: May 17, 2010, 08:50:17 PM »
As far as I have seen, you are the only one. The rest of us prefer to use our magic rather than our swords (or in Iroku's case, fists.) And how hard it is to block depends on Abel's CQC ability, what attack he's blocking, what weapon is behind the attack, Abel's tolerance for pain, and the attacker's martial skill. And yes there are things restricting its movement. Clothing, any seals his opponent may place on him (or the arm specifically), the bones are shaped to move in certain directions only and must be either broken or dislocated to move in other directions, which would indeed be painful for him. And it doesn't really need to be stated, as it's rather obvious to prevent godmodding. He is, after all, absorbing a person AND his/her parallels.

Not only what Hiro said after this, but he is insane.  And that means he won't show the same types of emotions, responses or even pain resistance. Many insane individuals cannot feel pain even though their nerves work. Even if he can't absorb any divine entities, he can absorb anyone within reach. Also the process of absorbing somebody may not be automatic but it will probably be fast and Kivith has yet to say anythin'.
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Re: Abel
« Reply #208 on: May 17, 2010, 08:54:48 PM »
Glancing blows wont work, requires at least a second of hard contact.
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Re: Abel
« Reply #209 on: May 17, 2010, 09:06:43 PM »
A glancing blow I wouln't have thought about anyway, but a second of hard contact like, say punching somebody would lead to their being absorbed.
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Re: Abel
« Reply #210 on: May 17, 2010, 09:23:28 PM »
Yep.
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Re: Abel
« Reply #211 on: May 17, 2010, 11:44:18 PM »
Nisorin, Aralangs use weapons and tech for ranged combat, yes, but they also do melee combat as well.

For countering spells that were used against Abel, he wouldn't need to. He would just block them with his arm. He won't feel pain. They are just bones. Even if he does feel pain, I doubt he wouldn't need to worry, as he is indestructible. I doubt that even if it had nerves, his arm wouldn't feel a thing, as it's indestructible.

Research enemies? There are stories about monsters and beings that kill all, and there's no survivors... Where would the story come from, if there are no survivors? There would be nothing to research. All we would know is that people disappear without a trace. No bodies, no blood, nothing. We wouldn't know how it happened, we wouldn't know if the cause is either a machine or a person, or some deity. There could be witnesses to it happening, but I doubt they would be safe, if they would be near Abel. There would be the Archive with him, too.

If you would be able to punch someone, you would certainly be able to hold onto them. You would gain more distance with your fingers stretched out, than with a fist.