Author Topic: How to eliminate the Sage THree? (Read 8730 times)

@Pokemon Master Red · « **Reply #50 on:** August 04, 2011, 04:54:25 PM »

Incorrect! You implied that they weren't confusing, in comparison to Shattered's states of existence! That is still VERY confusing, by which you implied!

Ragnar the Red · « **Reply #51 on:** August 04, 2011, 05:03:25 PM »

No, I said people think they are, while implying otherwise, using a formula usually used to imply the reverse, but in this case not.

@Pokemon Master Red · « **Reply #52 on:** August 04, 2011, 05:09:35 PM »

You say 'And people think (insert whatever here) is confusing...' in response to something, which implies a comparison due to the manner of which it is phrased. As well, if you are simply implying that they are not actually confusing, without making a comparison to the whatever-is-being-talked-about, it is a awkward change of subject that makes no sense to the current subject being discussed.

In any case, however, this is besides the topic, and we should really stop thread-jacking the topic so that people may discuss again how to kill the Sage Three. Another topic if you wish to continue discussing this, agreed?

Ragnar the Red · « **Reply #53 on:** August 04, 2011, 05:15:19 PM »

I was just being confusing. Agreed.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #54 on:** August 04, 2011, 05:16:58 PM »

Other than Jeebus's Templars, you can't eliminate us. There! End of topic!

Ragnar the Red · « **Reply #55 on:** August 04, 2011, 05:19:03 PM »

Wait! Idea! Erase the hard drives and they cease to exist!

@Pokemon Master Red · « **Reply #56 on:** August 04, 2011, 05:22:12 PM »

Quote from: Magister Hikaru on August 04, 2011, 05:16:58 PM

Other than Jeebus's Templars, you can't eliminate us. There! End of topic!

I've already given my own manner which Virus can do so anyways, though. D: True, you are correct he wouldn't IMMEDIATELY know exactly whats with Hikaru/Whoeverelsewouldbesubgrounded, but its not impossible for him to figure it out when he cant kill them normally.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #57 on:** August 04, 2011, 05:24:35 PM »

It still wouldn't kill them.

@Pokemon Master Red · « **Reply #58 on:** August 04, 2011, 05:26:01 PM »

Deleting them from existence after 'fixing' the bugs of being Subgrounded back to Normality. . .And they WOULDN'T be dead. . .

Queen Bright · « **Reply #59 on:** August 04, 2011, 05:28:34 PM »

You can't fix the bug dammit. Subgrounding is being BELOW existence. Not affected by existence. You couldn't fix the bug. It's a bug of existence its self, not something a Virus can fix by just making things data. It'd be overpowered to say you could edit and change anything in existence, that'd be equal to an Ingrounded's power, and to be an Ingrounded one has to be VERY limited and only use it for story purposes.

ALSO YOu would not know the person is subgrounded. If you tried to kill them normally and they become an ingrounded, you couldn't then go back and re-fix that. They'd already be DEAD and Ingrounded.

@Pokemon Master Red · « **Reply #60 on:** August 04, 2011, 05:33:01 PM »

Quote from: Magister Hikaru on August 04, 2011, 05:28:34 PM

that'd be equal to an Ingrounded's power, and to be an Ingrounded one has to be VERY limited and only use it for story purposes.

Aaaaaand this is why Administration is a Level 6 ability, which, by the rules of the forum last I checked, is only usable DURING events...Not to mention, with the way he's balanced, you'd also have to pose a Level 6 threat for him to DO so even if it was a event.

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ALSO YOu would not know the person is subgrounded. If you tried to kill them normally and they become an ingrounded, you couldn't then go back and re-fix that. They'd already be DEAD and Ingrounded.

Not immediately no, but Im fairly certain at Administration he'd be capable of(though it'd take some time) analyzing his foes...

K2 · « **Reply #61 on:** August 04, 2011, 05:34:39 PM »

Another subgrounded could defeat the Sage Three.

Ragnar the Red · « **Reply #62 on:** August 04, 2011, 05:35:27 PM »

or Davros' reality bomb.

Embodiment of Cringe · « **Reply #63 on:** August 04, 2011, 05:37:04 PM »

Simple! Jump off a huge cliff and land on top of them exploding. Be sure to curse as loud as possible while doing so.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVOBNl_28PU

K2 · « **Reply #64 on:** August 04, 2011, 05:40:43 PM »

[17:38] <!K2323> Wait
[17:38] <!K2323> isnt the subgrounded godmoding then?

Embodiment of Cringe · « **Reply #65 on:** August 04, 2011, 05:42:50 PM »

Quote from: K2323 on August 04, 2011, 05:40:43 PM

[17:38] <!K2323> Wait
[17:38] <!K2323> isnt the subgrounded godmoding then?

No, but cursing before exploding probably is.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #66 on:** August 04, 2011, 06:02:35 PM »

Quote from: Pokemon Master Red on August 04, 2011, 05:33:01 PM

Not immediately no, but Im fairly certain at Administration he'd be capable of(though it'd take some time) analyzing his foes...

It's not something that would show through analysis.

K2 · « **Reply #67 on:** August 04, 2011, 06:18:18 PM »

Nis brought up a very good point. When a subgrounded dies, that should eliminate the contradiction all together, thus they permadie like everyone else and reincarnate.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #68 on:** August 04, 2011, 06:19:46 PM »

It doesn't god dammit! His point isn't good, because that's not how the contradiction and tautology system in it works. I said there was more than one fucking contradiction.

K2 · « **Reply #69 on:** August 04, 2011, 06:21:59 PM »

And if a contradiction is destroyed, there is only one contradiction.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #70 on:** August 04, 2011, 06:24:14 PM »

It wouldn't be destroyed. Killing them is not correcting it. It's adding another one. If you're not going to read all the topics around it, you have no right to speak against it without knowing everything.

K2 · « **Reply #71 on:** August 04, 2011, 06:29:59 PM »

Wait wait wait. So you say that their death is a contradiction because they're also being saved by existence. If we stop existence from saving them, then, they die. Also, I did read all the topics, you just didn't explain it very well.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #72 on:** August 04, 2011, 06:30:34 PM »

No. I'm not explaining it that way. You're completely misinterpreting it.

@Pokemon Master Red · « **Reply #73 on:** August 04, 2011, 06:31:11 PM »

Then you didn't explain it clearly.

K2 · « **Reply #74 on:** August 04, 2011, 06:33:57 PM »

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Because they are a contradiction, and their death is a contradiction as well. The two contradictions overpower the one tautology. (The absolute truth/conservation law that says nothing can be created or destroyed.) Then them being destroyed would be a contradiction to that law. But because their existence was already a contradiction, it's two contradictions vs the one tautology which causes Irrationality.
The Tautology would try to save them because it says "Hey, this person can't be destroyed, THAT'S AGAINST ME!"
Whereas the two contradictions are like, "But they have to be killed."
Due to irrationality, they would be neither killed or saved, and become neither alive or dead. They would become a paradox, aka Ingrounded.

Okay, then, what makes their death a contradiction?