Archive Technology

[Gaserlake]

It would do harmless things, too, but that's true, but that would require a lot of energy, and I mean a lot. If you have enough, in that case, then, it's serious godmodding. It would be too damaging, doing random things. It would be unstoppable damage.

[Orph]

Not actually Gaser, C- particles are created by the rapid destruction and creation of C+ particles, the energy required for that can easily be produced by my Harmony or Star Drive cores. The Star Drive is powered by a supernova, and the Harmony is powered by a black hole, which gives infinite energy at a finite rate, meaning it will never run out, but I will never have infinite energy at a single point in time. It more then plausible to say that I can provide enough energy to use one of these weapons effectively. And that's why the EPPB is a dangerous weapon, pretty much everything in it's blast radius is effected unless shielded, and even then the shield will most likely fail unless of considerable strength.

[Gaserlake]

That makes it much easier to do unstoppable damage, which you didn't argue against. It makes shields and armor useless, hell, even the ships themselves. A good portion of a fleet would be downed by a single bomb nearly instantaneously. Shields? No good. Armor? No good. How long it takes for the shields and the armor to be useless? Almost no time needed.

[Orph]

The one thing the C- particles cannot actually penetrate would be a shield, and that's due to their lack of mass, only the particles with the effect that allows them the pass through a shield unhindered would effect a shield, and even then the damage those particles could do would be minuscule. An unshielded planet or ship however would most likely be heavily damaged if it was within the blast radius.

[Gaserlake]

They can penetrate the shield, seeing how unpredictable they can be. They can turn shields into walls of mattresses. You don't need mass to damage the shield. And with how unpredictable they can be, one particle can do thousands, hell, even millions of things to an object. This means it's a good chance that all of the particles can generally do the same thing to a general type of entity, like a shield.

[Orph]

Ah true, but just because you can't predict them doesn't mean they can do everything in the known universe to you, they just all have the potential to be created in such a way that they can, that doesn't mean that they will, or that they wont. But I get your point, this should be heavily limited, can't really use it as an everyday type of weapon when it can do everything to everything within a certain radius.

[Gaserlake]

These types of particles should be extremely hard to make. It should only be used if there is an immediate threat to Archive's existence. As in, not seeing a massive fleet forming. More like the massive fleet attacking you, and actually overwhelming you. And they're in a last-ditch effort, or close to it.

[Orph]

I actually only intend to use it if the Library is attacked directly, as that is the Archive's most prized possession, it's entire reason it exists.

[Gaserlake]

Well, only if the Library is getting overwhelmed.

[Orph]

The Library's very existence is top-secret, if it was being attacked that means it's existence as been leaked and an enemy has made to the to Library and gotten past it's natural defenses, AKA Quasar, that means it is being attacked in force by a powerful enemy. That means the Library would use EXTREME prejudiced against everything and anything attacking it.

[Gaserlake]

The Library isn't in a quasar. It's either above or below it, where it can gather Hawking Radiation. Top-secret... yeah... doesn't really say much. Knowing and doing are two different things. A weak force can know leaked information. If one is on the opposite side of the Library from the quasar, they are pretty safe from it.

[Queen Bright]

Due to the size this topic is becoming. I would think it'd be good to take a leaf from the CL forum, and lock it, and start a new one. Makes it easier to find things.

[Orph]

Yeah, no, I'll keep this topic, already have it stickied and everything.

And it's in one of the Quasar's jets, meaning anything trying to fire upon it would either be incinerated, or have their payloads rendered ineffective. And yes, but no weak force can figure out the Library even exists unless they stumble upon it, which is highly, highly unlikely, unless they have anti-gravity technology and a way to shield from the massive jets the Quasar produces.

[Orph]

Scholar type GR-armor -  The Scholar type is the newest addition to the ever-growing armory of the Archive, it can be compared to a super high-tech magical artifact. By fusing magic and technology the Archive has created a powerful suit of armor that amplifies magical reactions, allows for use of magic inside AM fields, and even is enchanted with a large number of magical spells that allow for quick casting without draining the user's own energy. They can do this by having an incredible amount of energy stored in the armor's own energy cells, along with multiple Nemesis generators that power both the suit and user's spells. However the Scholar's amplifying effects cease to work when it's within range of Nilgaitt.

http://shimmering-sword.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d200lkt - A GRASS member being dropped from orbit in Scholar armor.

Atlas prototype gravity resistant super armor - The Atlas is..big. The size of a small sky scraper it's armor is comprised of treated neutronium laced with heavy amounts of Gray Matter, cutting down it's weight nearly by half, it's armor is also laced with Nilgaitt, BALAR, treated diamond, EMP resistant materials, and a few hopes and wishes. One could say that the Atlas is the Titan class of ground warfare. Powered by a small Harmony core along with multiple smaller Nemesis generators. It's equipped with rail-guns, LOD, anti-matter rockets, EPS', and pretty much anything that the Archive could fit onto it. Piloted by a single heavily trained soldier and laced with nanites that are programed to be on a closed system and only repair the damage that the Atlas sustains. Capable of ripping through Super-Capital class armor with nothing but it's bare hands the Atlas is one-of-a-kind, created for the future siege and destruction of Maltruse. Equipped with a Aegis class shield.

http://omen2501.deviantart.com/favourites/#/dq3sie - The Atlas killing a large humanoid entity on an unknown planet.

Both are equipped with pysc-shields.

[Gaserlake]

Even weak forces would be able to find out that the Library exists, if it's allied with a strong force that leaked out the info. What makes the Library able to withstand the jets?

GR-armor: No. AM fields will still destroy the magic. Magic has been amplified. Well, it's still bloody magic, so the AM field would still take it down.

Atlas: Really? Ripping through super-capital class armor with its bare hands? That's godmodding. Aegis class shield... What class-type is that?

Imgaitt: Again, no. It reinforces magic, which means... it's... magic. It doesn't change the fact that it's still magic. It would ignore Imgaitt's affects, and go straight for the magic part of it. Sure, the Imgaitt is left alone, or even destroyed, but regardless, the magic part would still be destroyed.

[Orph]

Imgaitt was approved.

Atlas - Not really, considering that a normal sized GR-armor could pick up something about 100 tons, this is something the size of hundreds of them, that would be enough physical force to do such a thing. Go find it.

[Queen Bright]

I'm calling Imgaitt out as well, that means with two admins denied counters the two admins approval.
Just because you strengthen or amplify the damn magic doesn't mean it would counter the field. WTF?  You haven't changed the magic in any way, you haven't done anything to it but level it higher. That makes no damn sense.

And external? Even less sense. Maybe if you injected it or it was to help strengthen it internally, but even then, there's no reason it should still work under the damn field.

And for Scholar GR Armor.
As I've told Hawkeye, you can't just amplify magic without reason. You didn't put one damn reason of how magic is amplified in there.
And if it ceases to work near Nilgaitt? Then it ceases to work with AM. You can't have it work with one and not the other, when both are designed to take out magic.

[Gaserlake]

Atlas: Just because it's possible, it doesn't mean it isn't godmodding.

[Orph]

I'm calling Imgaitt out as well, that means with two admins denied counters the two admins approval.
Just because you strengthen or amplify the damn magic doesn't mean it would counter the field. WTF?  You haven't changed the magic in any way, you haven't done anything to it but level it higher. That makes no damn sense.

And external? Even less sense. Maybe if you injected it or it was to help strengthen it internally, but even then, there's no reason it should still work under the damn field.

And for Scholar GR Armor.
As I've told Hawkeye, you can't just amplify magic without reason. You didn't put one damn reason of how magic is amplified in there.
And if it ceases to work near Nilgaitt? Then it ceases to work with AM. You can't have it work with one and not the other, when both are designed to take out magic.

It amplifies magic that it overpowers the negating effects of an AM field.

And yes I did, it's laced with Imgaitt, and if I didn't put it that it had Imgaitt on it then shit, I meant to. Nilgaitt and Imgaitt are the the opposites, they cancel each other out.

Atlas - Actually, it means it isn't. It may be powerful, but it isn't indestructible nor something that kills everything before it has a chance to respond. Meaning it ISN'T god modding, it's very strong and created in a possible way.

[Queen Bright]

Which Imgaitt is challenged. Two admins deny the approval. You didn't even look at the argument for that. Amplifying it would not let it get passed AM.

Just because you strengthen or amplify the damn magic doesn't mean it would counter the field. WTF?  You haven't changed the magic in any way, you haven't done anything to it but level it higher. That makes no damn sense.

And external? Even less sense. Maybe if you injected it or it was to help strengthen it internally, but even then, there's no reason it should still work under the damn field.

And if Nilgaitt makes it cease, so would AM. It may be the opposite, but that doesn't make it any special. They both still counter magic.

[Orph]

But in different ways, Nilgaitt causes magic to fizzle out, where Imgaitt is the opposite and strengthens magical reactions. AM field are not absolute, they can be overwhelmed, and if they can't be overwhelmed then they are god modding, no matter what you say. And it amplifies it to the point in which it overwhelms the AM's effects, but although weakened.

[Queen Bright]

They're not godmodding because they can be gotten around. Just because they can't be overwhelmed, doesn't make it godmodding. If there was no way at all to get your magic back, then it would be. BUT, there's AAM (tech) and Spirit Energy (magic,) as ways to get around it. As well as other things....

Think about it. If encasing spirit energy around magic worked to keep the magic safe.  Then why does this not hold true for any type of energy? Perhaps even a specific energy created for that simple purpose, To encase magic?
^I claim that idea.

But, just saying. AM Fields are NOT godmodding.

But you, you're bruteforcing it, not getting around it. Which makes NO DAMN SENSE.
So no, Imgaitt NOT APPROVED.

[@Pokemon Master Red]

Um...Isn't it that using spirit energy is kinda a BAD thing for your well being? since...You know...Your using up your spirit?

[Queen Bright]

Um...Isn't it that using spirit energy is kinda a BAD thing for your well being? since...You know...Your using up your spirit?

Not the way I came up with.
You encase your soul and your magic with Spirit Energy.  On a normal basis if you use like half of your spirit energy, you need to rest and your magic restores it over time. BUT, in this method, since they're right by each other. The magic replenishes the SE constantly, and the SE encases and keeps the magic safe. Like an Orange. AM Field  can't get to the orange part without taking out the peel.

[Gaserlake]

AM fields ARE absolute. They have been ever since old GE. There are things called 'exceptions'. Look it up. Starts with 'exc'. For example, one piece of tech would be godmodding. Godmodding doesn't necessarily mean unacceptable. One would find the piece of tech unacceptable in an everyday thing, and find it perfectly acceptable in events. AM fields, are another type of exception. They're godmodding, sure, but doesn't mean they aren't acceptable.

ANd don't go around saying "Well, then that means we can't disapprove tech cuz of godmodding, as long as they're acceptable" because the exception go to SPECIAL cases. And these special cases? I can only think of... two to three.

But... it isn't exactly godmodding. You're just saying that anti-submarine nets are godmodding because you can't get your submarine past them. Yet... there are other ways to get passed it, like flying over the place, or driving to your destination. Hell, just take a damn boat.