Author Topic: Archive Technology (Read 22745 times)

Gaserlake · « **Reply #475 on:** August 15, 2010, 11:50:58 PM »

One AM field can make an entire army look like one person, and make itself look like an entire army, and it has done more extreme cases than that. Hiro, I'm not. I'm saying that there would an entire field of AA guns, in the air, and on the ground, shooting at the airforce. That's a lot of AA guns.

Also, neutronium is unstable. It will decay in a short time, so Hikaru does have a point.

Orph · « **Reply #476 on:** August 15, 2010, 11:53:43 PM »

The Imgaitt just doesn't raise your power, it counteracts the effects of the AM field.

As for the neutronium, it's treated in a way that simulates the pressure of a stellar core, which is the reason it would be unstable in the first place, as it's outside a stellar core.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #477 on:** August 15, 2010, 11:54:53 PM »

How Orph? If it breaks up magic or suppresses it, then how can it counter?

Orph · « **Reply #478 on:** August 15, 2010, 11:56:14 PM »

By not letting it break it up, strengthening it's own ability to stay together.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #479 on:** August 15, 2010, 11:57:28 PM »

That's stupider than the AAM Fields. Lame, cheap, all of the above.

Gaserlake · « **Reply #480 on:** August 15, 2010, 11:57:42 PM »

The AM field destroys any and all magic in the whole thing, resulting in no magic.

@Pokemon Master Red · « **Reply #481 on:** August 15, 2010, 11:57:59 PM »

Hik, indeed, its meant to block magic. But if a single one can block all the magic of a army or exeptionally strong-magiced being...No. Just no. Im not saying they have no use. But to be 100%able to block even the strongest magic? Yeeeeaaaaah-FUCK no.
And either way, Gaser, it can still be overpowered with a larger force. Just because you have a field full of them, does not mean its impossible to overwhelm them.

Orph · « **Reply #482 on:** August 15, 2010, 11:58:31 PM »

Then the AM field is godmodding, nothing can destroy everything 100% all the fucking time.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #483 on:** August 15, 2010, 11:59:17 PM »

It's not godmodding. Because as you once said. As long as there's some way around it. Well I found the way around it. Encasing magic in spirit energy. So, it can't be godmodding, because there is a way around it.

Gaserlake · « **Reply #484 on:** August 15, 2010, 11:59:37 PM »

100% would be instant. This isn't instant, but just enough so that it wouldn't matter whether the person uses magic or not.

Orph · « **Reply #485 on:** August 16, 2010, 12:00:39 AM »

Then it doesn't matter if it's instant or not, it's still godmodding.

Even then, you all called godmodding on my BALAR because it was immune to lasers and stuff, and yet this is the same concept, nothing is absolute like this.

@Pokemon Master Red · « **Reply #486 on:** August 16, 2010, 12:01:37 AM »

...Personally, I'd suggest a vote. Let everyone decide. It does affect the entire board, after all, and we're clearly getting nowhere.

Gaserlake · « **Reply #487 on:** August 16, 2010, 12:11:03 AM »

Then, might as well allow BALAR to absorb 100%. My Saraton Energy will still damage it, because it's SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED to destroy anything and everything in its way. Magic is NOT designed to destroy AM fields. That's the problem here.

Vote sounds good.

Nisorin · « **Reply #488 on:** August 16, 2010, 01:11:08 AM »

Talking with Gaserlake, apparently as long as it's called magic AM fields work against it, period, end of story, no matter what. Apparently, to hear it from him, the only way to deal with it is to use spirit energy combined with magic or an AAM field. Bullshit. Magic isn't designed to do anything until it is commanded. If a mage creates a spell to destroy an AM field, the magic will do it so long as the mage is able to perform said spell.

Another problem is that we haven't even figured out what the hell AM fields are or how they do what they do. All we've decided is that magic can't be used in them. Why? Why can't it be overpowered? Sure, you could destroy it, but if the magic itself is stronger than the AM field, the magic would still win out. It's called brute-forcing something. Yeah, you can pick a lock to get the door open, but you can also brute force it and break it instead. Harder, sure, but faster and you don't need any spiffy tools. Just like shields and AT fields can be brute-forced, so can AM fields. If it can't, then the field is invulnerable and thus godmodding, whether there's ways around it or not.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #489 on:** August 16, 2010, 01:16:05 AM »

Do we need to know what AM Fields are? Or what Magic is? Because to know what AM Fields are we need to know what magic is first. And we don't want to explain magic, as that would be trying to sciencify it. And seriously guys, if we take down AM Fields to the point of that, it's going to be a fucking boring RP. Sure it's a magic RP, but it also has tech. Just as magic isn't explained, AM Fields to stop magic shouldn't be explained as then magic has its opposite. Get rid of that? Magic beats everything, the end. No challenge, lame, cheap, not interesting.

Nisorin · « **Reply #490 on:** August 16, 2010, 01:26:14 AM »

Technology can yes beat magic without AM fields, you just need an rp'er capable of handling it. So far, no one's even tried. AM fields are tech, and thus do indeed need to be explained. And explaining magic wouldn't 'sciencify' it. How else would anyone know what is going on? Besides, no one said it would be easy to overpower an AM field. Having these things, AT fields, AP, AB, AM, AAM, they're what dull the rp. Having a field that can completely shut down any and all magic no matter what kind of magic it is? Cheap. Lame.

Orph · « **Reply #491 on:** August 16, 2010, 12:23:13 PM »

Locust - One approval needed.

Flash - Two needed.

Imgaitt - One needed.

Neutronium - One needed.

"Basilisk" weaponry - After realizing their rather shocking lack of CQC weapons the Archive started to delve into research and soon they came out with the Basilisk types, weapons that have been equipped with a type of radiation that is incredibly dangerous towards organic cells. The radiation is capable of causing organic tissue to petrify within moments of exposure, it was originally intended to be only used in CQC but it has also be fitted onto ranged weapons. This ranges from a small combat knife, to a cannon fitted onto a Titan. A single shot from a fully charged Basilisk onto an unprotected planet would render nearly every organic thing on the planet "stoned". A Basilisk in the form of a bladed weapon has a small amount of the radiation, enough to turn whatever it cuts to stone, but not effect anything it doesn't touch. The radiation doesn't just affect cuts area, if you're cut by a Basilisk the stone will start to creep from the origin, within a few moments you'd be fully petrified.

Gaserlake · « **Reply #492 on:** August 16, 2010, 04:40:30 PM »

Flash: Approved.

Netronium: I revoke my approval until you find a way to keep the neutronium from decaying.

Basilisk: So, it has a stunning effect?

For the AM thing, yes, Nisorin, explaining magic so we can figure out how AM fields affect it is scientifically explaining it. I don't see how I can explain how AM fields can affect something unexplainable. THE ONLY REASON WHY WE ARE EXPLAINING AM FIELDS AND MAGIC IS BECAUSE OF THIS GODDAMN DISPUTE! THE ONLY WAY FOR ME TO SCIENTIFICALLY EXPLAIN HOW AM FIELDS WORK IS TO SCIENTIFICALLY EXPLAIN HOW MAGIC WORKS! There has to be something unique that separates magic from all other types of energy for the AM fields to affect magic and only magic. AM fields stop magic, and it has already been like that. Right now, I still think you can brute-force the AM field. Using your example, Nisorin, it's like trying to kick down a blast door three feet thick. Despite me and my tech and science and stuff, I still think it's not right to explain science. To be honest, the fact that magic is made by a combination of chemicals... yeah... that's definitely adding science to it. It's taken too far. Biochemistry, anyone?

Orph · « **Reply #493 on:** August 17, 2010, 02:27:20 AM »

Netronium: And? Just because it decays doesn't mean it has no uses.

Basilisk: No, it actually turns you to stone.

Gaserlake · « **Reply #494 on:** August 17, 2010, 11:20:57 PM »

Neutronium: Well, it would decay VERY rapidly, and with the what you were planning things to me... yeah... But fine, approved.

Basilisk: Approved.

K2 · « **Reply #495 on:** August 18, 2010, 07:41:21 AM »

Flash approved. The rest I don't know what I've already approved and will approve later.

Orph · « **Reply #496 on:** August 22, 2010, 11:56:19 AM »

Seeing as Flash is approved.

Locust - Needs one.

Imgaitt - Needs one.

Basilisk - Needs one.

Orph · « **Reply #497 on:** September 12, 2010, 03:10:20 PM »

Approve my shit guys.

Mass-produced Harmony core - After great success on the ARF Thanatos the Harmony core has been installed in every active Archive vessel capable of containing one, this is basically any ship the size of a frigate and larger, this allows for the use of the more energy draining technologies on every single ship.

K2 · « **Reply #498 on:** September 12, 2010, 03:13:35 PM »

shit approved

Orph · « **Reply #499 on:** September 12, 2010, 03:14:46 PM »

Imgaitt and Mass-Produced Harmony need one more.

Treated Neutronium - After hundreds of tests the Archive has created a way to delay the Neutronium's natural decay, by reinforcing the matter with other alloys it limits it's strength but slows the delay down to crawl, creating a very powerful but very heavy armor. Usually only laced into normal armor.

Hypnos Sub-Titan class - The Archive recently created sub-titans are the size of a large moon, equipped with every single piece of technology that's capable of fitting on along with BALAR armor laced with Nilgaitt, Treated Neutronium, and EMP resistant materials. Making it very effective and taking a high-level beating, most likely able to take a few charged Titan shots before going down. The Hypnos is shaped like a seamless sphere.