Shattered Planes Archives (Seasons 4 & 5)
The Hub => Staff Updates => Suggestion Box => Topic started by: Ghost on April 24, 2012, 12:55:04 PM
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I know how bad the users can be with language and end up fighting over the smallest things. I admit, I do this too.
But this issue has gone a little out of hand especially wih this "Declan The Creator" guy.
Whiskers and antennae are different, you miserable fucking cunt. And don't give me that "I can't control IC shit" -- you can and you will keep your shit separate from mine. I'm tired of having difficulties with you lot after I've done what I needed to do to post here and shit.
Now go take you "neko"-wannabe arse somewhere else, little girl.
Oh, and by the way, I've put you on ignore (didn't know this site had one of them buttons), so you won't be getting a reply, and I'll be getting the last word. SEE YA, FGT! <3
This is his latest reply to a pm regarding his race. I put solid information on how whiskers are a form of feeler, not how they are antennae. I never said that whiskers are antennae and I also call antennae "whiskers" according to the amount of antennae they have. I'm sick of this guys attitude. And I know everyone will say "ignore him". But he's got no manners. And I can't ignore something like this that easily.
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Oh, hell no. Was this on the site?
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it was on this site in a pm
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Don't worry about it Yuke. Good ol' Chase will take care of it.
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mmmmk. I would've quoted all of his replies to the pm, but I deleted them. That and I think Logan had issues with him too.
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Hrnnn, well, in the future please try to forward the PMs to us if possible, when they're sent. Lets us act faster when we know what's going on.
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Hrnnn, well, in the future please try to forward the PMs to us if possible, when they're sent. Lets us act faster when we know what's going on.
I would if I thought about it then ._.
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Also, you can simply report the pm as well.
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That didn't come to mind either.
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That be why we're letting ya know now, so that next time it happens you will.
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PM logs sent to Jeebus, Hiro and Chase. Thanks to Hikaru restoring those PMs for me.
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Reading the log? I've noted down another rule suggestion.
While he shouldnt have reacted how he did you in turn shouldnt have pushed on posting in his request topic especially since it seems you were simply arguing semantics. As it is he actually quite nicely asked you to stop... And you simply refused, he then got too annoyed in return.
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He wouldn't listen to my reasoning and took it wrong. :T
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The point though Yuki is that you still could have dropped it y'know?
I feel this is for the most part a conflict of sentiment and could really be resolved much easier with some new rules
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mmmmk. I would've quoted all of his replies to the pm, but I deleted them. That and I think Logan had issues with him too.
An issue that since has been resolved.
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The point though Yuki is that you still could have dropped it y'know?
Yeah I guess .3.
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See if we're all nice to eachother life doesnt suck.
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Whiskers and antennae are different, you miserable fucking cunt. And don't give me that "I can't control IC shit" -- you can and you will keep your shit separate from mine. I'm tired of having difficulties with you lot after I've done what I needed to do to post here and shit.
Now go take you "neko"-wannabe arse somewhere else, little girl.
Oh, and by the way, I've put you on ignore (didn't know this site had one of them buttons), so you won't be getting a reply, and I'll be getting the last word. SEE YA, FGT! <3
Dang Swift. I honestly have gained a new respect for you on how incredibly calm and collected you have been throughout this topic.
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I will say this, and I will say this once and then I'll drop this issue involving Declan.
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I can and can't control my IC things at the same time. My plans conflict with another member's plans. Whichever way it goes is a chain reaction. My characters could end up being dragged around with another character and end up meeting yours. I tend to go with the flow.
If this ever happens in the future...:
If your characters do meet mine and think"OH SHE'S THE ENEMY BECAUSE I JUST KNOW IT",and have your characters totally sunshine and rainbows with outhers... You'll do it for an OOC reason on the the fact that our first impressions weren't great on each other. That's not fair to me or my characters. I'll have my charcters act as they normally do, and you do what you do. But if your characters are hostile to mine for NO REASON, I'm calling BS on you.
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That would be metagamming.
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That would be metagamming.
That's why I posted that. Because I have a feeling this would happen if this situation ever came to.
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Its been noted. I've already talked with Declan about disrespecting and insulting other members. I do want to note though... This is not just to him but to all members. No matter what, always try to respect females, especially children (yes Yuke, that includes you), even when they don't show it to you.
Shit, take me and Hik for instance. She doesn't respect me or anything i do, and yet i try to get along with her.
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I'm a children? :D
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Why, yes Yuke. Yes you are! :P
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Yaaaaaaaay! Lol
It makes sense according to my age
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You're a children? Get back in your Evangelion and destroy the angels!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Neon_Genesis_Evangelion_characters#Children
In the Japanese dialogue for the original anime, the Eva pilots were always referred to as "Children," even when referring to an individual pilot.
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That show any good?
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Like an Angel who has forsaken sympathy.
Rise up, young boy, and make yourself a legend!
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Off topic >>
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No matter what, always try to respect females, especially children (yes Yuke, that includes you), even when they don't show it to you.
Thats a little sexist if im honest, the fact that they're females does not suddenly warrant respect. If i'm honest this should be amended to say treat all members with at least some respect(Enough to step off if asked tends to work).
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That show any good?
If you really like to think about a show and try to ponder deep meanings, like giant robots and humankind spitting in the face of God, then yes, you will love that show.
If not, just skip it. You can watch the 1.11 and 2.22 movies though: They paraphrase the show very nicely. I had a friend that absolutely hated the anime series, but loved the movies.
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you miserable fucking cunt.
Only a little? Dude, this one line alone is incredibly offensive, and to be honest I'm not sure I'll be able to respect Declan because of it.
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you miserable fucking cunt.
Only a little? Dude, this one line alone is incredibly offensive, and to be honest I'm not sure I'll be able to respect Declan because of it.
Something I learned early. Some people just get pissed too easily and say the wrong things. One of the reasons why this world is not accepting. :/
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That show any good?
If you really like to think about a show and try to ponder deep meanings, like giant robots and humankind spitting in the face of God, then yes, you will love that show.
Yeah. OR if you like to philosophise (?) about the meaning of -- wait a second. I would've spoiled the entire plot there, or at least a significant attribute of it.
How to say this without spoiling. Okay, it's also a good watch if you like to . . . erm, indulge in the trope that "humans are special", and that some individuals may hold keys that others don't. There, now he'll have to watch it to see what I'm talking about. No spoilers here!
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No matter what, always try to respect females, especially children (yes Yuke, that includes you), even when they don't show it to you.
Thats a little sexist if im honest, the fact that they're females does not suddenly warrant respect. If i'm honest this should be amended to say treat all members with at least some respect(Enough to step off if asked tends to work).
Its an American thing Jay. Females are typically held in higher regard in most social and formal situations. Its the same reason you hold the doors for them, and dont say anything around them that would be personally offensive to them. It goes even more for Clidren. I mean really. What child deserves to be talked to like that?
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Er...Um...L-Rage? That would be chivalry, which originated in the medieval ages of Europe. If anything, its a (horribly outdated) European thing that some of us still do. By all means, though, it is still sexist. The -isms work both positively and negatively, after all. Personally, I don't see the point to it; in my opinion its a lot more disrespectful to change how you act depending on a person's gender than to act all polite just because they're female. As far as children, I kinda agree, though it does depend on what you consider to be a child(I consider preteen and younger, then teen to 18 are minors).
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Yeaaaaaaaaaaah, I go with the "respect all equally until they do something to gain or lose it" aproach,.
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You guys are entirely missing my point... so fuck it.
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Hiro, he did change his act for Swift. I somehow doubt he would have dropped the C-bomb on her if she were a guy!
And anyway Lyoko, I am completely on you with this one. Disrespecting someone less is, well, disrespecting someone less, no matter what circumstance. Chivalry in it of itself is a form of respect.
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Hiro, he did change his act for Swift. I somehow doubt he would have dropped the C-bomb on her if she were a guy!
Even if I was a guy huh?
(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/118/c/c/male_yuki_is_not_amused_by_swiftyuki-d4xwkms.png)
^Genderswapped fursona 8D
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Hiro, he did change his act for Swift. I somehow doubt he would have dropped the C-bomb on her if she were a guy!
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Nik, I dont think he was trying to be respectful, all things considered. What Im saying is I find it more disrespectful to change how you behave. Im not saying Declan was trying to make friends with Swift, just that I actually find L-Rage's idea to be less respectful than just acting like you'd normally act.
And L-Rage, if people aren't getting your point, it usually works better to explain what you mean rather than just give up. :P
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It wasn't that complex of a point, Hiro.
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The only uncomplex part of it I got was 'dont be rude to females', which I personally disagree with and instead say 'dont be rude to anyone'. :/
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And somehow getting half the point is horrible! I mean, being nice to females is a good thing, right? Not if you just smack talked a guy! Then it's a horrendous crime against society!
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Look. Yes, be respectful and courteous to everyone. But, try to strive harder to display it towards females. Here's an example. If i walked in the door and a guy was behind me, and i didnt hold it, he probably wouldnt think anything of it. Now, if it were a lady behind me, and i didnt hold it, i'd get ragged for being rude. Its just a social standard that has been set for a very long time.
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No, not really dude. At least, not where I am. And, just because its a social thing doesn't mean the double standard is wrong. Its stupid. Its also like the stigma against promiscous females where promiscous males are often praised.
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Declan, do you mind not being hostile for little reason. I've put my head out calling you and few other thigns because you said you would act better in the future. However, if you won't be respectful for the sake of respect, can you be so in terms of I talked to Hik about why you should be unbanned.
Also, as far as the discussion of male, female, child. Unless you are a woman that I have the jones for, my temperament will be based entirely on how you have acted around me. Gender, age, religion, ethnicity and so on are not factors in how I treat you, and if I hold the door open just because you are a woman, please slap me, because I am being disrespectful by holding the door open.
If I won't talk about something, or treat you better because you are a kid, please slam my face in the pavement, because again, I am disrespecting you.
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Look. Yes, be respectful and courteous to everyone. But, try to strive harder to display it towards females. Here's an example. If i walked in the door and a guy was behind me, and i didnt hold it, he probably wouldnt think anything of it. Now, if it were a lady behind me, and i didnt hold it, i'd get ragged for being rude. Its just a social standard that has been set for a very long time.
(http://i.qkme.me/358kkn.jpg)
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So i will once again restate my previous post. You all (Except for Nick) are missing my point. So.... Fuck it.
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And can I say something, what Lyoko is saying honestly has nothing to do with what you guys are talking about. You're saying to respect everyone, and Lyoko's saying make sure you respect females. So in some ways you are all arguing for exactly the same cause.
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And can I say something, what Lyoko is saying honestly has nothing to do with what you guys are talking about. You're saying to respect everyone, and Lyoko's saying make sure you respect females. So in some ways you are all arguing for exactly the same cause.
Respect can mean many things, what it means to me is to be as honest as possible about what you believe and what you think to others. If something as simple as a white lie to prevent someone from being upset in my mind would be disrespect. Additionally, it is disrespectful to take things like emotions, title, past, age, gender, ethnicity, position, or any other factor except how they have proven to be as person in your own experience with them.
I understand Lyoko's point. However I will make sure to respect everyone, gender and age notwithstanding as a factor at all.
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Eh, similar, but not the same cause. For example, if I have reason to punch someone, I'm not holding back just because they're a girl. Conversely if I have reason to respect someone, their gender doesn't factor into how much I do. You and L-Rage are going for Chivalry, Nik, we're going for No Special Treatment. We get your point, we just don't agree with it.
And L-Rage, just saying, but just because its a social standard doesn't make it right. Technically speaking, another social standard not too long ago was the the whole 'Women should stay in the kitchen, jobs are for men' one, which thankfully was made essentially illegal and phased out of our culture. Just my two cents on that matter, I suppose.
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And that social standard is now obsolete. This one isnt.
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And that social standard is now obsolete. This one isnt.
Besides padding the egos of those who would like to feel at a higher moral standard for treating the opposite sex a certain way and those who take advantage of said social standard.
There is no purpose nor reason for it to exist. It is obsolete, its just an artifact group behavior that will take another generation or five to die out.
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Once again, im offering to drop the issue. What im saying is not discriminatory. Thats a part that you're not understanding. I know im right in what i do, and i really dont need to explain any further to you all.
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Once again, im offering to drop the issue. What im saying is not discriminatory. Thats a part that you're not understanding. I know im right in what i do, and i really dont need to explain any further to you all.
Then you are disrespecting me by dropping your side and keeping it to yourself because of factor of emotion.... understood and noted.
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Have you guys ever stopped to think that maybe we don't like chivalry? I for one despise being treated different. And if someone dares to say "Ladies first," I will spitefully stand there and not go in until they do.
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Have you guys ever stopped to think that maybe we don't like chivalry? I for one despise being treated different. And if someone dares to say "Ladies first," I will spitefully stand there and not go in until they do.
Well, Hik, you're a very unique lady. :/
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Have you guys ever stopped to think that maybe we don't like chivalry? I for one despise being treated different. And if someone dares to say "Ladies first," I will spitefully stand there and not go in until they do.
Well, Hik, you're a very unique lady. :/
Not really, Aubrey and Hik are pretty different from each other... and she would do the same thing.
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Well, Hikaru inst exactly the Epiphany of normal. Im not sure who Aubrey is.
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Well, Hikaru inst exactly the Epiphany of normal. Im not sure who Aubrey is.
A friend of mine I've known for a good while.
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Chivalry isn't exactly outdated, just in need of an update. All people should be treated with respect until you can determine, through your own experiences, whether the person is deserving of respect.
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Chivalry isn't exactly outdated, just in need of an update. All people should be treated with respect until you can determine, through your own experiences, whether the person is deserving of respect.
Exactly. By arguing against Lyoko you are arguing on why you should disrespect one gender over another. I know that's not what you mean, but that's the reciprocal of Lyoko's argument, and why we've been saying you don't understand it.
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Chivalry isn't exactly outdated, just in need of an update. All people should be treated with respect until you can determine, through your own experiences, whether the person is deserving of respect.
Exactly. By arguing against Lyoko you are arguing on why you should disrespect one gender over another. I know that's not what you mean, but that's the reciprocal of Lyoko's argument, and why we've been saying you don't understand it.
If his point was non-gender and age bias. He wouldn't have mentioned age and gender.
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Again, not his point. He was saying give everyone respect. If the way you normally act is by being a jerk, don't be a jerk. He was also saying that there is no excuse for acting like a jerk to a lady for the sake of acting like a jerk to a lady. Sure you should treat people the a certain way based on what you think of them, but honestly, what little can you think upon first meet? Little to nothing. So why be a jerk? And if you must be rude, don't be rude to the lady.