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Re: The Coalition's technology
« Reply #50 on: July 10, 2011, 11:34:34 PM »
The idea that time compasses everything is stupid, it makes the very force of time a God-level power. And I mean a God, God level power. Up there with Creation and Destruction, both of which we have always sealed. For balance reasons, yet Hikaru get's her's unsealed? And exactly, I'm been trying to say that for a while.

A lot of unfair bullshit has been going around.
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Re: The Coalition's technology
« Reply #51 on: July 10, 2011, 11:36:08 PM »
I do have to admit that some of this stuff about existence and sub grounded was forced, and the idea of technology and magic being some special kind of existence is too far fetched.
How is it forced? It was half-finished ideas I threw out IC and then asked you AND Nisorin before I detailed or went further with them. If you had refused they could have easily been changed to take a different direction. You two agreed.

Yeah I've made my fair share of mistakes in it all, though I didn't really realize the implications of what I was agreeing to. The point is, chill out with the charts and stuff.

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Re: The Coalition's technology
« Reply #52 on: July 10, 2011, 11:37:14 PM »
The idea that time compasses everything is stupid, it makes the very force of time a God-level power. And I mean a God, God level power. Up there with Creation and Destruction, both of which we have always sealed. For balance reasons, yet Hikaru get's her's unsealed?

I limit her and she's completely neutral unlike you who flaunts his power every time he gets with 5 freakin' embodiments or attempts at having them.  Even unsealed Koty isn't limited enough, ask anyone. And so what if it's a god level power? I would think Time and Space would be god level as Destruction and Creation. Difference? LIMITED and NEUTRAL.

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Re: The Coalition's technology
« Reply #53 on: July 10, 2011, 11:41:13 PM »
Limited my ass, you instafreeze all the time. Which honestly is a stupidly overpowered power. At least I don't just go "poof" you're destroyed, I give it some sort of tangible form that allows for a counter. And I think that having some sort of God-level character only limited by trust and expectations is a bad idea, especially with someone like you Hikaru. You'd been known to go to great lengths to get back at people.
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Re: The Coalition's technology
« Reply #54 on: July 10, 2011, 11:46:42 PM »
When have I ever insta-froze? The only time that happened was in battle with Anarchy or Plex. Other than that the most Asura's ever done is time-length barrier and teleportation which is yeah freezing, but only to appear somewhere else in an instant, which may as well be teleportation as its the same damn effect. I'd say that's pretty damn limited. Wouldn't you?

 Whereas lets see... Koty insta-wins every time he steps into battle if its against anyone but Plex. Your reason for this all the time? "He's destruction," not to mention he unsealed himself last battle in Melody. If anyone doesn't limit their 'god characters,' it's you.

Then you get mad at others for having 'gods,'. Oh! I'm sorry. I have an embodiment that's not going to bow down to Eli and Koty like embodiment princes because she has equal power to them! How mean of me. Lose the ego Orph, you're not the only one allowed to have a character that powerful.
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Re: The Coalition's technology
« Reply #55 on: July 10, 2011, 11:57:14 PM »
It's not like I win every single damn time I fight with Koty, and blaming it on the character is rather shallow. I have heavy involvement with why Koty wins, it's because I think my shit through. If I got into a fight with someone good they'd stand a chance, and the only ones who have really slowed me down every would be you, Nisorin, or K2.

And no, technically he loosened the seal, as he doesn't have the power to unseal it entirely. Even loosening would provide a major boost in power, as he is of course a powerful entity.
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Re: The Coalition's technology
« Reply #56 on: July 11, 2011, 12:01:21 AM »
Even loosening would provide a major boost in power, as he is of course a powerful entity.

Then you have no right to accuse anyone else of having a 'god.' ESPECIALLY when all Asura does is hold herself up in the Records reading books all day long, staying neutral, and only giving advice when one really needs it or goes to her. The only reason she ever helped Hikaru once was because she was in debt to her for assisting in helping to get her powers back. Other than that? Asura may as well be a talking book reading statue for all the 'interfering and unlimited power,' she does. If that's not fucking limited, I don't know what is.

Yet again, unlike Koty who you have interfere in almost everything and win almost everything with sealed power that for its strength may as well be unsealed. God Fire anyone?

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Re: The Coalition's technology
« Reply #57 on: July 12, 2011, 04:56:21 AM »
One can define Time as both a measurement and a force, there is nothing to state otherwise. As Time is as determined by the owner of it's embodiment a force here you can't use the "time's just a measurement" thing.
Jay's timeline hopping is as if you were switching lanes in your car. There is a transitional period in which he is in both Timelines.
Again going back to the idea of Time being a flow of water. If a stasis field allows one to move to the bank and walk alongside it, one logically cannot A: Keep up with said water flow and B: affect what is INSIDE the water flow.
Also this is somewhat escalating into a fight of "No u hav strongest embodiment idiot".

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Re: The Coalition's technology
« Reply #58 on: July 13, 2011, 01:28:51 AM »
Ah, but that is saying that Time is the same as Space, the technology removes them only from time, but not from space, they still exist physically, just not temporally.
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Re: The Coalition's technology
« Reply #59 on: July 13, 2011, 03:06:26 AM »
As Time encompasses all of Existence though, the only way you could go outside Time's influence is to go outside existence. You can go outside timelines but not Time its self.

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Re: The Coalition's technology
« Reply #60 on: July 13, 2011, 03:47:47 AM »
Hm..then the technology causes it to exit the timeline in a temporal fashion, no longer affected by temporal anomalies in THAT specific timeline. While still remaining spatially.
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Re: The Coalition's technology
« Reply #61 on: July 13, 2011, 07:21:54 AM »
Mate you misunderstand me :) I've no problem with them still existing in space. Its the idea that they could still progress and such AND not age etc. Time is after all progression.

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Re: The Coalition's technology
« Reply #62 on: July 13, 2011, 12:29:33 PM »
I think I need to clarify something. They have no problem with you existing outside the timeline, just outside time itself. Time the embodiment would have significantly less influence in such a place between timelines, an anti timeline so to speak.

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Re: The Coalition's technology
« Reply #63 on: July 13, 2011, 01:34:03 PM »
Time the embodiment would have significantly less influence in such a place between timelines.

Um, the embodiment of Time is the embodiment of TIME, not the embodiment of timelines. The influence would still be there -.-

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Re: The Coalition's technology
« Reply #64 on: September 03, 2011, 03:47:47 PM »
Moving to Request Archive.