Author Topic: Mechera Tech (Read 3499 times)

Queen Bright · « **Reply #25 on:** July 01, 2010, 04:39:08 PM »

I know it wasn't stolen by either of us. I don't go on CE or read it, and you made yours there before here. But they're still mostly the same thing, and two empires usually don't have exact tech unless it's universal. I'd say it goes to who requested there's on SP first. This board.

@Pokemon Master Red · « **Reply #26 on:** July 01, 2010, 04:43:52 PM »

By all means, you never actually used it, or the empire that it was for, so it might as well not have existed. Not to mention that assuming that you just begin using them, the Mechera come from another dimension, which means they would have been the first to discover the technology in their dimension. ._. Its not completely implausible to assume, with the infinite vastness of space, and the even larger amount that would be in multiple dimensional planes, that multiple empire could have discovered the same technology. Just as its completely plausible for the Archive to have created a Mirror Shield before the Mechera had ever came to this dimension, for instance. They didn't, but its entirely plausible for them to have.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #27 on:** July 01, 2010, 04:48:25 PM »

I haven't used it because I changed it to a different empire. And I'm still making that empire, as soon as the CotS thing is done. But they are still approved. And as you said, you don't even have the chemistry knowledge to back it up, I do.

IC they might have chance to be the same. But the approval request system is OOC. This is why I dislike CE imports, there's going to be a bunch of person to person rips due to it beint two different rp's.

@Pokemon Master Red · « **Reply #28 on:** July 01, 2010, 04:55:41 PM »

Quite frankly, I dont see whats wrong with them both having it. And as you said, your going to have it. The technology wouldn't exist yet for your empire, while it would for mine.
I only lack the chemistry knowledge of how THIS weapon would work, because humans dont have such a weapon. The beam itself reduces only the matter directly hit by the beam. Zak likened it to the disruptor from Star Wars, in a sense. I dont think the beam itself functions the same as yours, in any case. ._.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #29 on:** July 01, 2010, 05:03:16 PM »

Using the whole 'came from another dimension, so came before yours.' Is sooo cheap.

@Pokemon Master Red · « **Reply #30 on:** July 01, 2010, 05:05:36 PM »

Its got nothing to do with another dimension, they'd have just plain had it before you. 8D
Besides, aren't Gen and Rev magic? How would they research to get such technology in the first place?

Queen Bright · « **Reply #31 on:** July 01, 2010, 05:08:14 PM »

Quote from: Pokemon Master Red on July 01, 2010, 05:05:36 PM

Its got nothing to do with another dimension, they'd have just plain had it before you. 8D
Besides, aren't Gen and Rev magic? How would they research to get such technology in the first place?

Which points to the whole reason of taking CotS. And...I don't mean IC. The approvals are OOC, OOC they can't be the same.

@Pokemon Master Red · « **Reply #32 on:** July 01, 2010, 05:09:41 PM »

They aren't...Give me the topic, I'll point out the differences.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #33 on:** July 01, 2010, 05:19:56 PM »

Quote from: Pokemon Master Red on July 01, 2010, 05:09:41 PM

They aren't...Give me the topic, I'll point out the differences.

Molecular bonds are the same as element bonds. Seeing as in chemistry, covalent and ionic bonds our made up of the elements. Either way, the two tech have the same damn effect. Splitting off different parts, by breaking the bonds. If yours was just molecule as in atom level, then it wouldn't only be certain sections. It's the element that designates.

@Pokemon Master Red · « **Reply #34 on:** July 01, 2010, 05:20:45 PM »

Give me the topic, and I'll point out the differences, in function and in use...

Orph · « **Reply #35 on:** July 01, 2010, 11:04:22 PM »

I have to side with Hikaru, although they have yet to be used we don't allow incredibly similar or matching technologies to be requested.

@Pokemon Master Red · « **Reply #36 on:** July 01, 2010, 11:44:28 PM »

...Why is that, anyway?

@Pokemon Master Red · « **Reply #37 on:** July 02, 2010, 12:49:52 AM »

In any case, I still need one approval for the Propaganda and Media Hub techs.

Nisorin · « **Reply #38 on:** July 02, 2010, 01:00:38 AM »

Actually yeah, why is that?

Orph · « **Reply #39 on:** July 02, 2010, 01:02:12 AM »

Because then I could request a Quartet Cannon renamed, that's basically why. It removes the edge empires have over creating technology that is specific to their empire.

Also the other two are approved as long as they take time to charge/use.

@Pokemon Master Red · « **Reply #40 on:** July 02, 2010, 01:45:38 AM »

Well, of course they do. Its not like you INSTANTLY become a mindslave...
However, its effect is instant. Not powerful, but instant. At the start, the change takes place immediately, but its so small that its likely to be overlooked. After about a week, you'll have minor discontent among the average citizens, and the weakest willed completely taken by the Mechera's way(mind, thats the weakest of willed, so its not much). After two weeks, many people would protest the current government, andminor riots would occur, maybe even a small rebellion. Into week three, the majority of the population is under Mechera dominence, and they'll overthrow the government in the name of the Mechera. Thats Propaganda Hub. The Media Hub is both instant and powerful, but it only affects targets already subjugated to Mechera rule by the Propaganda Hub, and so it isn't usable until the Mechera have won anyway.

And Orph, technically thats plausible to happen. Not exactly the same, I'll admit, but its plausible for such a technology to be discovered by another empire. So long as is sufficently different, there's no reason that couldn't happen...

Nisorin · « **Reply #41 on:** July 02, 2010, 03:37:05 AM »

Hiro has a point. It's not like it's entirely impossible for two empires to discover similar applications of scientific laws.

K2 · « **Reply #42 on:** July 02, 2010, 11:23:35 AM »

I agree with Nisorin and Hiro, its not that big of a stretch to say that they'd both discover this kind of technology. While its good for an empire to have an edge, I believe this should not be disapproved simply because Hikaru has something similar.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #43 on:** July 02, 2010, 11:29:10 AM »

Not similiar, same.

@Pokemon Master Red · « **Reply #44 on:** July 02, 2010, 11:53:49 AM »

Not the same. This is designed to be a powerful super weapon that requires a VAST amount of energy to be used, and thus requires a period of charging even on the most powered ships. Yours doesn't. Therefor, the method of which they are used is likely to be different.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #45 on:** July 02, 2010, 12:17:31 PM »

Still the same effect.

And want to go IC? If your empire has it, and Rev and Gen just inadvertently met your empire. When I do use the tech, IC it'll look like they copied or stole it off your empire, even though OOC, mine was requested first. Which would make their personalities be OOC, because they wouldn't steal.

@Pokemon Master Red · « **Reply #46 on:** July 02, 2010, 02:18:36 PM »

...No...Because Im not planning on using it against them. You see, considering it hasn't been used, and the Mechera aren't going to tell them how it works...They wouldn't be stealing it from them.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #47 on:** July 02, 2010, 02:19:31 PM »

It'll still look like they stole.

@Pokemon Master Red · « **Reply #48 on:** July 02, 2010, 02:21:28 PM »

OOC it would, but we'd all KNOW that's not the case. Since the Mechera wont use it outside of battle, and I dont think they'll be battling soon...

Gaserlake · « **Reply #49 on:** July 10, 2010, 06:47:14 PM »

Quote from: Pokemon Master Red on July 02, 2010, 12:49:52 AM

In any case, I still need one approval for the Propaganda and Media Hub techs.

Those two are approved.

For the PSB, Hiro has got the idea first, as far as I know. He's got it from CE. Yes, I know, CE's not cannon, but it shows that there was nothing to steal it from.