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Re: Poll of Planets
« Reply #25 on: July 15, 2010, 12:35:01 AM »
...Then why hasn't she just gone and attacked everyone already, if thats her nature?
And Hik...The point of the matter is, they CAN be attacked, they just have a large military to aid them in such a case...
If she wants to attack, oh, sure, go ahead. See what we care. But thats her choice...
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Re: Poll of Planets
« Reply #26 on: July 15, 2010, 12:36:34 AM »
...I don't mean her. I mean she's a god damn example.
If you get a whole empire like her, in the same personality. There's going to still be war.
And pretty soon that place would either fall, get destroyed, or destroy others.

It wouldn't be neutral anymore.

And the stronger you build the military and make it unkillable. The more people would want to kill it, some characters and empires are just like that.
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Re: Poll of Planets
« Reply #27 on: July 15, 2010, 12:39:26 AM »
Ja, but that doesn't mean that it'd necessarily fall on the first attack. And since there would be anyone who cares to defending it, well, they'd be very adaptive.
The point is not keeping them neutral forever. Its getting a few neutral places so that we can even work out our own miniplots to develop our characters without a bunch of native military killing them for their poor choice in placing. >.>
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Re: Poll of Planets
« Reply #28 on: July 15, 2010, 12:42:15 AM »
People would still take it over.
The harder they fall or harder to fall, the more apt characters and empires are to want to MAKE them fall.

Neutral is impossible unless everyone IC agrees to it. Good luck there. *points out people hate one another.*

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Re: Poll of Planets
« Reply #29 on: July 15, 2010, 12:44:31 AM »
Jeez, people. I've tried submitting a post five times in a row and I keep getting the warning, topic updated thing, and have rewrite and resubmit. Ugh.

Hikaru, you're looking to much into this. Not EVERYONE is ALWAYS at war with each other, and for the most part, if you leave someone alone, they'll leave you alone, and since this NPC empire will leave everyone alone, they'll be left alone.

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Re: Poll of Planets
« Reply #30 on: July 15, 2010, 12:45:48 AM »
...The point is, they wont fall IMMEDIATELY. And of course they'll fall! Nothing's forever. And I dont think those empires really exist yet, since we dont have a perpetual war with everyone attacking everyone right now. Even the Anrufe is mild about its attacks, and so they dont attack very much. And they're the embodiment of what your saying.
These nations aren't supposed to last forever. Obviously. But they're supposed to act as neutral places while they DO last.
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Re: Poll of Planets
« Reply #31 on: July 15, 2010, 12:46:07 AM »
Jeez, people. I've tried submitting a post five times in a row and I keep getting the warning, topic updated thing, and have rewrite and resubmit. Ugh.

Hikaru, you're looking to much into this. Not EVERYONE is ALWAYS at war with each other, and for the most part, if you leave someone alone, they'll leave you alone, and since this NPC empire will leave everyone alone, they'll be left alone.

OOC, they'll leave alone. But not all characters will leave anyone alone. I'm trying to point out, that IC. Some characters will still go after it, and some empires as well.   This may work OOC. But NOT IC, because of personalities. Aaaaaaaaaaaaagh.

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Re: Poll of Planets
« Reply #32 on: July 15, 2010, 12:49:17 AM »
*headdesk*

He just explained that we aren't already always at war with each other. So its metagaming that I dont have the Lorcar go out for bio-mass EVERY waking moment? Its metagaming that K2 doesn't have the Anrufe go out murdering everyone EVERY DAY?
Thats about what your saying, Hik.
Yes, they will get attacked. Yes, they will be defeated. But it doesn't necessarily mean it'll happen SOON.
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Re: Poll of Planets
« Reply #33 on: July 15, 2010, 12:52:32 AM »
Besides, if the having multiple worlds for this Governent idea is implemented (which it should, they should have multiple planets spread out a long the galaxies) If one falls, there will be more.

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Re: Poll of Planets
« Reply #34 on: July 15, 2010, 12:55:02 AM »
Besides, if the having multiple worlds for this Governent idea is implemented (which it should, they should have multiple planets spread out a long the galaxies) If one falls, there will be more.

And those will be taken as well.
Look at the Aralangs, everyone wants to kill them because they own too much.
Look at back in the Alliance. Everyone wanted to kill them because they tried to own everything.
The more this empire owns, the more of a target it would be.

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Re: Poll of Planets
« Reply #35 on: July 15, 2010, 12:55:52 AM »
Actually, the various empires that currently exist would jump at the chance to take a planet. If the Archive thinks the world has potential artifacts, they would destroy the current government and begin a search for the artifacts, that is if they resist anyway. The Japae would invade as they are an IMPERIALISTIC empire, the Relorians may have honor but they are in a situation were land is a precious resource, if it means conquering a neutral unallied empire, I doubt they would hesitate to save themselves. The Aralangs for all their morality and niceness are an imperialistic empire as well, although not as much this season.

This Galaxy is always at war red, although we may not constantly be in battle. War is here.

Although I do agree we need more planets, making some sort of rule were we cannot invade the planet is stupid. If a inhabited planet is created it will be attacked, if it's attacked by any empire with strength, it will fall. I wouldn't be surprised if it's attacked and invaded in the first topic, it's just how this damn RP works.
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Re: Poll of Planets
« Reply #36 on: July 15, 2010, 01:01:01 AM »
Hik...The Aralangs have TWO FREAKING TERRITORIES in the SP dimension...And one of them isn't even a planet. You guys are trying to go to war with them because of tech...

And all the point is that we need a few neutral territories so as to do anything at all with our non-empire characters...It doesn't even matter if they will be destroyed soon or not. Its not gonna be attacked as soon as its created. Just because it exists does not make them a bullseye. And like we've said...Its not like they'd be unprotected. >_>
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Re: Poll of Planets
« Reply #37 on: July 15, 2010, 01:02:41 AM »
OY. I got an idea to make this topic more productive.

Instead of simply arguing about this one idea, how about we start working together to brainstorm different methods that WILL work?
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Re: Poll of Planets
« Reply #38 on: July 15, 2010, 01:06:43 AM »
Against the current empires out there.. It doesn't matter if they were protected, and yes. They would be attacked RIGHT away, if lets say. Hawk's characters found one, he's starved for territory and would attack immediately.

And I already agreed, we need more planets, inhabited or not. I'm just telling him to not expect them to last long at all.
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Re: Poll of Planets
« Reply #39 on: July 15, 2010, 01:09:38 AM »
If they'll last long enough for some of us to use them without someone trying to tell the characters to get out, Im perfectly fine with it. I dont care how it works, so long as I wont have to worry about the native government killing my characters for being there, or otherwise clogging the storyline at its start.
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Re: Poll of Planets
« Reply #40 on: July 15, 2010, 01:24:29 AM »
And I've been completely ignored.

You're not going to get anywhere by focusing on any one idea at the moment. Instead, start brainstorming a list of ideas. Here, I'll even help you.

Look at the Outerverse. Can't get in through technological means. Try and take it over normally, and the land itself will kick your ass. Very difficult to take, and almost entirely neutral as it can't build things, since technology doesn't function in it. Perfect place for a group of mages to go to do a sideplot.

Make a place similar to it for technology-users, and guess what? You've got what you wanted. You've even got a place to start too, though it's not quite ready IC yet. For those who have no clue what I'm talking about, City of the Suvian(COTS) once the actual city is removed from the remainder of the planet.

There. Now we have two ideas. Anyone else want to contribute?
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Re: Poll of Planets
« Reply #41 on: July 15, 2010, 01:29:46 AM »
I didn't ignore you...I said I didn't care how it would work. As in, if we can find a way other than that, then that'd be fine by me. That merely seemed like the best idea at the time, as I couldn't think of anything else.

The only thing is, Outerverse is just that-Out of the SP-Verse. You need to know of its existence to go there. Guess what? Not a lot of my characters know of it, if any. :/

As for the CotS...That could work...But having just one place would be suspicious. Why would all these events occur at one spot? Thats the only problem with that.
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Re: Poll of Planets
« Reply #42 on: July 15, 2010, 01:35:03 AM »
Why would they occur there? Cause that's one the biggest and easiest place for it to occur. And I'd say the Outerverse is more well-known than you think, considering how important it's been in intergalactic history thus far.
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Re: Poll of Planets
« Reply #43 on: July 15, 2010, 01:35:58 AM »


Make a place similar to it for technology-users, and guess what? You've got what you wanted. You've even got a place to start too, though it's not quite ready IC yet. For those who have no clue what I'm talking about, City of the Suvian(COTS) once the actual city is removed from the remainder of the planet.


Who said COTS is gonna be neutral? -.-

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Re: Poll of Planets
« Reply #44 on: July 15, 2010, 01:39:34 AM »
Its well known to the Empires that have been around for a while, yes. But individual characters who would have no knowledge of it, or even of areas outside of the dimensional place(such as mine) would have no knowledge of it, and even if they did, thats not to say they even could leave the dimension with their magic, as they'd have to know where it would be(thinking from a inter dimensional perspective, that is).
Just because your empire and other, older empires know of it doesn't mean that everyone knows of it, you know, least of all mine.
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Re: Poll of Planets
« Reply #45 on: July 15, 2010, 01:54:26 AM »
The Outerverse has been an important meeting place since the OK. That's at least a good thousand years. I'd say it'd be a pretty well-known place for anyone with even a moderate knowledge of the universe's history.
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Re: Poll of Planets
« Reply #46 on: July 15, 2010, 01:59:21 AM »
Depending on your character's alignment. I doubt humans from earth would have, nor would any of my other characters. In fact, the only characters I can think of out of mine with any possible knowledge of such a place would probably be Cero, and thats because his body is that of a Sage, and Null/Void, and thats because they're half-embodiments. None of my other characters would have any knowledge of it. Technically, Hikaru took Hiro, Flora, and Sara there, but they wouldn't have known where they were, so that doesn't count.
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Re: Poll of Planets
« Reply #47 on: July 15, 2010, 02:33:22 AM »
Going along with the brainstorming idea...

We could have territories listed as 'aggressive' and 'passive.' This means nothing in warfare, but how the planet itself is towards any IC's. For example, say a person goes to a planet labeled as aggressive. That can mean quite a few things: Someone is going to pwn the crap out of them, or the inhabitants there will shot them down on sight, or any other likely situation. If a territory was labeled passive, on the other hand, tells whoever is interested in going there means they won't be frikkin' raped the moment they enter it. Of course, these signs are completely OOC unless ICs already have prior knowledge of their nature.

Now, again, these signs have nothing to do with warfare. I could have, say, False Heaven labeled as passive, but that doesn't mean I'm going to let frikkin' everything shoot me down; I would fight back. ={?
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Re: Poll of Planets
« Reply #48 on: July 15, 2010, 03:06:46 AM »
That idea actually does sound good to me. I have a few but will post them in about 8-9 hours tops when I wake up.

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Re: Poll of Planets
« Reply #49 on: July 15, 2010, 02:12:52 PM »
We could just add 'Dead Space' territories in every galaxy which refers to space in the galaxies, actual space. That would be an ideal location for meeting, and I doubt most empires are interested in taking over dead space areas.