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[Gaserlake]

Okay. I'm calling out on metagaming. I'm still convinced that it's metagaming. She assumed that the SF's reason is that they knew too much. Well, she threatens them not to say that, at least. That's metagaming. How the hell would she know that? Okay, corrupt organizations hide things. Yes, but knowing too much? If they're that corrupt, wouldn't the kids be dead, rather than be taken away? Sure, to hide the evidence, but the conventional Aralangs would truthfully tell them what happens. If the ASF were that cruel, the conventional Aralangs WOULD rise against them, causing an Aralang Civil War. Yes, there was a witness: an Aralang scientist. Aralang linking would hold the evidence, which would spread across the ENTIRE planet. The ASF wouldn't be able to do anything about it.

If the ASF were to just take the children and run off with them, the Aralangs themselves would demand an explanation, and the doctor that was speaking to Celestie would tell her what's going on. There would possibly be even an Aralang Civil War.

What, Celestie wouldn't know what the conventional Aralangs would do? I'm pretty sure she would know what they would do, as they've known them for a little over ten years. That's enough time for the Relorians to understand the Aralangs, even to the point that they don't seem to realize that there's a difference between the ASF and the conventional Aralangs. They seem to think that they're all the same.

Corrupt organization holding secrets? Everyone holds secrets, corrupt or otherwise. She wouldn't know that they're so secretive. The only thing I see from her is that they are very aggressive, and they don't really care much about anything.

The 'reasons' you gave me were more like excuses than actual reasons to me.

No, I'm not doing this because I'm going to be defeated or anything like that. It's just that Celestie, ironically, seems to know too much IC.

This may seem like it's a big deal over nothing, but it's not, because things like this slowly creep up at you and you won't realize it until it's too late. I don't want the same mistakes and errors getting repeated again and again. I'm being proactive.

[Queen Bright]

I kinda agree. How would Celestie know that it was because they knew too much, when she doesn't even know HOW the SF took them? Gaser's characters never said that they jumped into the beaming. So there wouldn't be cause for a situation that they knew too much, as far as she would be able to see.

[Nisorin]

Hikaru 3:51 pm
(3:51:05 PM):     Also. I agree with you on what Celestie would think. But how would she think it without knowing how they were taken?
(3:51:24 PM):     What I mean is, how would they know too much, without being in a position to know too much? And if Celestie wasn't told of the position?
nisorinlertis 3:51 pm
(3:51:26 PM):     Not knowing would breed suspicion.
(3:52:02 PM):     Her not knowing how the kids were taken means she can assume it's anything from finding the kids on the street to kidnapping them while Hikaru was unconscious.
(3:52:20 PM):     And considering her background, I believe she'd be far more likely to believe the latter.
(3:52:33 PM):     Especially after all the shit between the ASF and Hikaru.
Hikaru 3:53 pm
(3:53:06 PM):     But to say it was because they knew too much? It's just that part that seems kind of out of nowhere.
(3:53:19 PM):     Because what would they know too much about?
(3:53:32 PM):     To a character that doesn't know they were beamed.
nisorinlertis 3:54 pm
(3:54:28 PM):     If the ASF have the kids in their possession, and are indeed as corrupt and merciless as Celestie thinks they are, they'd say that, by simply stepping onto an ASF ship or base would mean that they already know too much.
Hikaru 3:55 pm
(3:55:02 PM):     Yeah. But before they took them, knowing too much wouldn't be grounds of taking them, is what I'm saying, without knowing they were accidently beamed.
nisorinlertis 4:06 pm
(4:06:11 PM):     Sounds almost like you misread the post.
(4:06:41 PM):     She didn't say that they took them because they knew too much, she's saying they'd better not tell her they won't give the kids to her because the kids know too much.
Hikaru 4:06 pm
(4:06:50 PM):     Oh

[Gaserlake]

Yeah... and if the ASF were as bad as she thinks they are, I would think the doctor would be a bit angry, and there would be a lot of things going on. The doctor would tell Celestie more specifically, if the ASF actually did purposely take them. Celestie should know the Aralangs well. What's to know too much about? Hell, with the ASF and Hikaru, and that the ASF didn't want anyone aiding Hikaru as they told Celestie SPECIFICALLY not to aid Hikaru, and seeing that the ASF weren't so happy after Hikaru disappeared from the planet, AND the fact that the kids are HIKARU'S CHILDREN, Celestie would be more like "Don't say that they tried to protect or aid Hikaru."

[Nisorin]

* Nisorin sighs and headdesks.

I don't see how it's such a big deal to begin with, but I have an even harder time figuring out why the fact that she assumed something reasonably based off of the information she has available to herself. And if you'd bother to read her character request, you'd see that she's spent more time learning about her own people rather than others.

Is it really so difficult to accept the fact that she assumed something that's so common? Even if they aren't as bad as she believes them to be, they're still a government agency, and ALL government agencies have things they don't want others to know about, and being the children of half a God and one of the three strongest sages in the universe, they'd very easily be able to get themselves into places they shouldn't be, most likely on accident due to their age.

Honestly, will you just give it up already, acknowledge that it was a perfectly fucking reasonable conclusion, and get the hell on with the damn topic already?

[Gaserlake]

Alright, fine! I'll just fucking post.