Author Topic: Abel (Read 9897 times)

Gaserlake · « **Reply #25 on:** October 16, 2009, 11:17:43 PM »

Wait. The virus has mercy in it to save Abel? That is one hell of a twist plot, but it makes things even more interesting. So you mean the virus manipulated the creational energy to save Abel and itself? I approve that.

Nisorin · « **Reply #26 on:** October 17, 2009, 12:29:50 AM »

Or simply the desire for self preservation. If it's inside Abel, and Abel gets blown to hell, the virus also gets blown to hell.

Orph · « **Reply #27 on:** October 17, 2009, 05:09:48 PM »

Exactly, the Virus is the last of its kind. If it is destroyed then it's kind is destroyed, so it saved Abel and therefore itself.

Gaserlake · « **Reply #28 on:** October 17, 2009, 09:51:38 PM »

The only problem I see is the near god mode thing. From just a person or an animal? It would require much more energy than that.

K2 · « **Reply #29 on:** November 11, 2009, 05:29:48 PM »

Quote from: Gaserlake on October 17, 2009, 09:51:38 PM

The only problem I see is the near god mode thing. From just a person or an animal? It would require much more energy than that.

This and the fact that you can simply kill someone with your arm. Those two raised big red flags for me.

Orph · « **Reply #30 on:** November 11, 2009, 07:22:37 PM »

Animals? No, since me making a NPC animal just so I can absorb it would be pathetic. As for the the energy problem it isn't just absorbing that person, its absorbing him and everyone single one of him within the multi-verse. But as I said, Abel cannot stay within this state for to long, he would die. And you can basically kill anyone with anything, this is just a different method. Hell, you can kill someone with a regular arm, just put enough force behind it.

Gaserlake · « **Reply #31 on:** November 15, 2009, 01:07:58 AM »

I agree that you can kill someone with a regular arm, but the part of absorbing everyone in the multiverse? Too powerful for a size of an arm.

Nisorin · « **Reply #32 on:** November 15, 2009, 09:24:04 PM »

Power isn't always limited to size, Gaserlake. A crystal the size of a marble could very well house enough power to completely vaporize a universe. Or, it could be a powerless little rock.

Gaserlake · « **Reply #33 on:** November 15, 2009, 11:07:58 PM »

A crystal the size of a marble able to vaporize an entire universe is god modding. Really, you can't compress energy, since it has no mass. But where does it have the power to absorb that particular person from every universe in the entire multiverse, in the first place? No, forget that question. How much energy does it take to do it? Infinite, as there are infinite universes in the multiverse. Infinite energy is definitely god modding.

Orph · « **Reply #34 on:** November 16, 2009, 12:03:00 AM »

You assuming that it takes infinite energy due to the vast amount of universes, yet since everyone is connected to himself it wouldn't. No, you can compress energy BECAUSE it has no mass. If it had mass you wouldn't be able to compress it due to it having mass.

Nisorin · « **Reply #35 on:** November 16, 2009, 04:43:26 PM »

Even if it did have mass, you could still compress it. There would just be a limit to how small you could get it. Energy, because it has no mass, can be compressed as small as wanted. To compress something just means to make the same amount of the something take up less space.

Gaserlake · « **Reply #36 on:** November 18, 2009, 10:34:22 PM »

It would still take infinite energy to do so, as it would still need to use some energy to get a copy of the person, even if the copy is connected to the person. Thus, if you do it infinitely, you need infinite energy. Abel, you obviously do not understand physics. Diamonds have been made by compressing carbon. If you have no mass, you take up no space, thus you can't compress it any smaller.

Nisorin · « **Reply #37 on:** November 19, 2009, 11:02:15 PM »

...

Say you've got a 1 square foot plate of sheet copper, that's one foot wide by one foot long. You charge it with five coulombs of electricity. Then, you cut the sheet in half, and force the electricity from one half onto the other. You now have the same five coulombs of electricity spread about a smaller space, and so it has been compressed because it is the same amount of electricity, but spread over a smaller space than it was originally spread over.

Orph · « **Reply #38 on:** November 19, 2009, 11:56:49 PM »

Which he gains, if he absorbs one person's energy he has enough to absorb the next and so on. It would take less energy to absorb energy then he gains.

Gaserlake · « **Reply #39 on:** November 20, 2009, 11:36:08 PM »

Nisorin, I don't understand your example.

Also, it would take a heck of a lot of energy to interact with another universe, making all disappear. But here's the problem, too: Time. It would take an infinite amount of time to get all the universe. You can't do it all simultaneously, as that would take infinite energy to do so. If you do have energy to do a billion in one time, it would still take infinite time, as there are infinite universes.

Orph · « **Reply #40 on:** November 21, 2009, 12:16:16 AM »

By doing this Abel gains infinite energy, but as he would die that way the arm overwrites the energy on to itself. Since this isn't energy but the people's souls, and if they are to alike they a basically discarded.

K2 · « **Reply #41 on:** November 21, 2009, 09:32:06 AM »

I think I can help out here.
Based off the theories used in hyperspace and other FTL Drives used on the game, as well as Net (a K Empire experiment), there ARE infinite amounts of universes out there, but only a handful are parallel. The others are pure energy of some sorts, which is what the energy from subspace is gained from. So, with that said, if you were to randomly pick another universe, chances are it wouldn't be one with life or matter, simply energy..
With that being said, it wouldn't take near infinite energy at all to do what Abel's arm is doing. Even if there is a great amount of energy being used, we mustn't forget that these are other universes. For all it matters, the arm could create a bridge of sorts linking several parallel universes with energy ones, and pull energy from the energy ones to absorb all of the given personas into one before feeding it back into this universe and destroying the bridges.
The only problem with this bridge statement is eventually energy would pour into these alternate universes, so to prevent ripping the fabrics of the universe and destroying us all, Abel would have to use the arm very little.
But the bridge probably isn't even needed.

Gaserlake · « **Reply #42 on:** November 22, 2009, 11:19:55 PM »

Saying that there are infinite universes means that there are infinite types. You have infinite parallel universes. If there is a random number generator, that randomly chooses a number between 1 and a million, 999,999 parallel universes are created, which have a different number as a result. We are in one that has a number that the other 999,999 doesn't have. Then, we have different reactions from different people, from the number, and different numbers they were guessing, which already goes into trillions of parallel universes. Some do the random number generator again, making another universe where they don't. A million times a million is a trillion, thus trillions of universes are created. Some do the generator, again, and again, and again. It's a chain reaction, leaving to infinite amounts of universes. There are some universes where they spend the rest of their lives doing the random generator, thus every second 999,999 universes are created. If they do it for the rest of their lives, every second, until they die of thirst from the addiction of the generator, quadrillions of universes came from just one universe. Think of the random number generator as what everyone does in their everyday lives. Some quit their jobs, some slack off. You may say, "This just means that there are countless numbers of parallel universes, not infinite." Not so, as some universes are infinitely old, and there's another thing. Let's say you are having a test on your reflexes. Let's say you react in .2 seconds. Infinite parallel universes are created. Why? Just do the math. I'm thinking of a number between .2 and .3. It's .2384765836385638367583765. Reaction time can be just like that. .2, then another universe it's, .21, then .201, .2001, .20001, .200001, .2000001, and so on. There are quantum smudges, making it so that you can't tell the exact location, or the exact time, but there are universes that don't have that, allowing to tell the exact time it takes to react, which would make infinite universes. Parallel universes are one of the first steps to creating infinite universes. It wouldn't make sense to have infinite universes and not infinite parallel universes.

Orph · « **Reply #43 on:** December 11, 2009, 07:08:11 PM »

tl;dr

Nisorin · « **Reply #44 on:** December 13, 2009, 09:11:25 PM »

You guys do realize he's been approved by two admins already, aye?

Gaserlake · « **Reply #45 on:** December 15, 2009, 10:02:02 PM »

True, but I'm trying to make my point here.

Orph · « **Reply #46 on:** December 15, 2009, 10:32:40 PM »

And it doesn't matter, so shut your face fat.

8D

Nisorin · « **Reply #47 on:** December 17, 2009, 10:05:10 PM »

After rereading the thread at Gaserlake's permission, I've seen that I missed something during my first read. We have not placed any usage restrictions on Abel's arm. Due to that, the arm is indeed god-modding since it can kill a PC in one post.

Orph · « **Reply #48 on:** December 17, 2009, 10:06:35 PM »

You assuming I'm going to do this.

"Abel grabbed Nisorin and drained his soul, insta-killing him."

Everything can kill in one post, but we leave each other time to respond. Which I intend to do.

K2 · « **Reply #49 on:** December 18, 2009, 02:32:18 PM »

Quote from: Abel on December 17, 2009, 10:06:35 PM

You assuming I'm going to do this.

"Abel grabbed Nisorin and drained his soul, insta-killing him."

Everything can kill in one post, but we leave each other time to respond. Which I intend to do.

Which is why I approve.