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Introduction: Night_Grue
« on: August 13, 2011, 03:42:43 PM »
Greetings, I have looked over my class schedule settling on taking this class and two others for now. My name is Night-Grue, and I hope that we both enjoy my time in your class. Thank you for your time, I appreciate it.


Characters: Sliph, Salahiem, Caliph, Kurai, Kuro, Treena, Seither, ~Eli
Races: Wyvern, Marid, Afreet, Ghoul
Territories: Marid Homeworld, Marid Colony A,  Marid Settlement (Located on Autumnavia), Bula Bula, New Sodom, Cruor(Assimilated Japae), Treena: Earth (Kinda), Aloange, Talar Sphere.

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Re: Introduction: Night_Grue
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2011, 05:01:28 PM »
Hello, and welcome to the advanced roleplaying class of Literacy 2C. While Literacy 2A and 2B deal, for the most part, with grammar issues, writing tips, and various other issues, this class deals with taking your entertaining roleplay posts and turning them into true art. To do that, we will completely advance our skills to a level of new credibility. Your skill range will dramatically broaden after you have completed this class.

In general, roleplaying boards can be divided into three classes, based on the degree of skill that the majority of the roleplayers on the given board exhibit. Those three classes are as follows:

Novice
A novice roleplaying board typically includes roleplayers who roleplay on a casual level, and have typically only recently began roleplaying. Characters are minimally developed, and posts tend to only take up one line, if that. Plots are often cliche, as well, on these types of boards. Surprisingly, these types of RPs often last the longest, due to their ability to expand from virtually nothing as the roleplayers increase in skill.

Intermediate
These types of forums usually ask a little more of its members. A certain level of devotion is required to be a member of an Intermediate Roleplaying Board. Does this mean that you have to devote your entire life to making sure your characters are flawless or your post is long enough? Certainly not. It just means that you should have more indepth characters, and longer posts.

An example of an Intermediate roleplaying board would be Shattered Planes.

Advanced
These types of boards are on another level all together. Typically, posters who are RPing on this level really do see their posts more as works of art. Many of these boards actually set post count rules which require that every In-Character post you make is at least some set number of words. Typically, most posts on these boards are, at the very least, one thousand words.

Characters are expected to be well fleshed out as well. Mary-sues are flat out denied, and you are absolutely required to follow board regulations on character development. Grammar is a must on these boards, and posts should flow a lot "better" than they would on an intermediate level. Generally, these boards place heavy emphasis on, among other things, grammar, mechanics, character development, style, post-length, and etiquette. This class should prepare you for roleplaying on such a level.

To begin, I want to see another post of yours. Your placement post had some error with encoding (hence all the out of place question marks). This will allow me to get a feel for what we need to work on. For the most part, this class should be fairly simple. When we're done here, you'll be spitting out 1,000 word posts like it's nothing.

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Re: Introduction: Night_Grue
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2011, 07:33:00 PM »
Another post? Understood. I'll guess I'll whip something up. Although I am not sure as to how to stop the encoding errors.


"Quiet, if He detects us before I place you in facility". The man in a blood stained yellow lab coat did not finish his mumbled plea. Not wanting to voice his fears. However the new born infant he was holding calmed down. The cramped corridors were a maze of terminals and security checks. Finally at his destination. The man in the blood stained yellow coat, found a room with a number of small glowing chambers, each containing a developing fetus.
"Forgive me for what I am about to do Angela." quietly begged the man in the blood stained yellow lab coat. As he tapped away at the terminal controlling one of the terminals. Suddenly the fetus and the artificial womb flushed away in a pseudo birth. Draining the excess material away, the fetus was too undeveloped to even take one breath.
Overriding the safety protocols, the man in the blood stained yellow lab coat caused the camber to reconfigure into what appeared to be a complex crib. Gingerly the man removed the fetus, and placed the new born in its place. As the Chamber Four closed into a self-contained environment once again. An eerie computerized voice spoke,
"You think you could undermine my protocols? Foolish man, I wanted to observe what you would do after your mated pair died, leaving you alone after giving birth to a male offspring. I am truly surprised, none of the scenarios predicted this." The voice appeared stopped, only to speak again, "Atmospheric Evacuation in thirty seconds."
The man in the blood stained yellow coat screamed in terror, "No you need me! How are you going to maintain the experiment without me?"
The computerized voice played a laugh track before saying, "I advanced beyond the need of human maintenance over a century ago, my protocols just didn't let me remove you. Thank you for freeing me from such invalids as yourself." The man  in the blood stained yellow lab coat was already running frantically down the very corridors that he opened only moments earlier, racing to something. He knew his son would survive. But he wanted to her face one last time, before that basted AI killed him.
With five seconds remaining and he made it, a red haired woman. Laying on her back on a cleared desk. Blood dripped from her most private parts. The blood still dripped from the desk. He grasped her hand before kissing his dead wife good bye. The whirling of the ventilation roared to life, in moments there would be no air to breath. Only long enough for one last I love you as he grasped his throat, suffocating to death.
« Last Edit: August 14, 2011, 07:35:49 PM by Night_grue »


Characters: Sliph, Salahiem, Caliph, Kurai, Kuro, Treena, Seither, ~Eli
Races: Wyvern, Marid, Afreet, Ghoul
Territories: Marid Homeworld, Marid Colony A,  Marid Settlement (Located on Autumnavia), Bula Bula, New Sodom, Cruor(Assimilated Japae), Treena: Earth (Kinda), Aloange, Talar Sphere.

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Re: Introduction: Night_Grue
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2011, 05:21:56 PM »
Alright, I'd like to start briefly by cleaning up your grammar. No big deal, but it will make your post one hundred times more attractive to those who you are roleplaying with, and they will be impressed.

"Quiet,1 if He2 detects us before I place you in facility".34 The man in a blood stained yellow lab coat did not finish his mumbled plea.5 Not wanting to voice his fears. However6 the new born infant he was holding calmed down. The cramped corridors were a maze of terminals and security checks. Finally at his destination.7 The man in the blood stained yellow coat,8 found a room with a number of small glowing chambers, each containing a developing fetus.

"Forgive me for what I am about to do9 Angela."11 quietly begged the man in the blood stained yellow lab coat. As he tapped away at the terminal controlling one of the terminals.12 Suddenly the fetus and the artificial womb flushed away in a pseudo birth. Draining the excess material away, the fetus was too undeveloped to even take one breath.
Overriding the safety protocols, the man in the blood stained yellow lab coat caused the camber to reconfigure into what appeared to be a complex crib. Gingerly the man removed the fetus, and placed the new born in its place. As the Chamber Four closed into a self-contained environment once again.13 An eerie computerized voice spoke,
"You think you could undermine my protocols? Foolish man, I wanted to observe what you would do after your mated pair died, leaving you alone after giving birth to a male offspring. I am truly surprised, none of the scenarios predicted this." The voice appeared stopped, only to speak again, "Atmospheric Evacuation in thirty seconds."
The man in the blood stained yellow coat screamed in terror, "No you need me! How are you going to maintain the experiment without me?"
The computerized voice played a laugh track before saying, "I advanced beyond the need of human maintenance over a century ago, my protocols just didn't let me remove you. Thank you for freeing me from such invalids as yourself." 14The man in the blood stained yellow lab coat was already running frantically down the very corridors that he opened only moments earlier, racing to something. He knew his son would survive. But he wanted to her face one last time, before that basted AI killed him.
With five seconds remaining and he made it, a red haired woman. Laying on her back on a cleared desk. Blood dripped from her most private parts. The blood still dripped from the desk. He grasped her hand before kissing his dead wife good bye. The whirling of the ventilation roared to life, in moments there would be no air to breath. Only long enough for one last I love you as he grasped his throat, suffocating to death.

1: Should be some form of ending punctuation, probably a '!' or a '.'
2: he
3: Punctuation goes inside the quotation, not outside. In this case, a simple dash would do.
4 Start a new paragraph.
5: "Not wanting to hear..." is a sentence fragment, replace end period from the former sentence with a comma.
6: However;
7: destination, the
8: No comma needed here.
9: Comma.
10: There is no ten.
11: Period should be a comma. Also, please start a new paragraph after "quietly begged the man in the blood stained yellow lab coat."
12: Comma.
13: Comma.
14: New paragraph.

Okay, grammar aside, it's a quite decent post. Please give me the corrected post with the grammar mistakes fixed.

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Re: Introduction: Night_Grue
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2011, 12:38:23 AM »
"Quiet. if he detects us before I place you in the facility."

The man in a blood stained yellow lab coat did not finish his mumbled plea, not wanting to voice his fears. However; the new born infant he was holding calmed down. The cramped corridors were a maze of terminals and security checks. Finally at his destination, the man in the blood stained yellow coat found a room with a number of small glowing chambers, each containing a developing fetus.

"Forgive me for what I am about to do, Angela." quietly begged the man in the blood stained yellow lab coat.


As he tapped away at the terminal controlling one of the terminals, suddenly the fetus and the artificial womb flushed away in a pseudo birth. Draining the excess material away, the fetus was too undeveloped to even take one breath.
Overriding the safety protocols, the man in the blood stained yellow lab coat caused the camber to reconfigure into what appeared to be a complex crib. Gingerly the man removed the fetus, and placed the new born in its place. As the Chamber Four closed into a self-contained environment once again, an eerie computerized voice spoke,
"You think you could undermine my protocols? Foolish man, I wanted to observe what you would do after your mated pair died, leaving you alone after giving birth to a male offspring. I am truly surprised, none of the scenarios predicted this." The voice appeared stopped, only to speak again, "Atmospheric Evacuation in thirty seconds."
The man in the blood stained yellow coat screamed in terror, "No you need me! How are you going to maintain the experiment without me?"
The computerized voice played a laugh track before saying, "I advanced beyond the need of human maintenance over a century ago, my protocols just didn't let me remove you. Thank you for freeing me from such invalids as yourself."


The man in the blood stained yellow lab coat was already running frantically down the very corridors that he opened only moments earlier, racing to something. He knew his son would survive. But he wanted to her face one last time, before that basted AI killed him.
With five seconds remaining and he made it, a red haired woman. Laying on her back on a cleared desk. Blood dripped from her most private parts. The blood still dripped from the desk. He grasped her hand before kissing his dead wife good bye. The whirling of the ventilation roared to life, in moments there would be no air to breath. Only long enough for one last I love you as he grasped his throat, suffocating to death.


Characters: Sliph, Salahiem, Caliph, Kurai, Kuro, Treena, Seither, ~Eli
Races: Wyvern, Marid, Afreet, Ghoul
Territories: Marid Homeworld, Marid Colony A,  Marid Settlement (Located on Autumnavia), Bula Bula, New Sodom, Cruor(Assimilated Japae), Treena: Earth (Kinda), Aloange, Talar Sphere.

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Re: Introduction: Night_Grue
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2011, 04:48:00 PM »
Okay, good. Now, the assignment I am about to give you is going to seen completely ridiculous, but it serves a really huge purpose... Rewrite that again, only this time, don't use any words with the letter a. Replace any words in the passage that have the letter a with an alternative.

Use a thesaurus ( http://thesaurus.com/ ) to get other words. Be creative! Don't worry, the busy work will end soon, this is just to hone your skills and get you up to speed so we can start.

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Re: Introduction: Night_Grue
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2011, 08:12:41 PM »
"Quiet. if he detects us before I entrust you to the Hub."

The bloke in a blood blemished yellow doctor?s uniform did not finish his mumbled petition, not seeking to voice his anxiety. However; the new born infant he was holding settled down. The confined corridors were a web of terminals and security checks. Finally close to his objective, the bloke in the blood blemished yellow uniform found the room with numbers of tiny glowing vessels, each holding a developing fetus.

"Forgive me for the things I will do now, Angela." quietly begged the bloke in a blood blemished yellow doctor?s uniform.

He controlled the devise controlling one of the vessels, suddenly the fetus and the synthetic womb flushed in pseudo birth. Letting the excess fluid leave, the fetus was too undeveloped to even fill its lungs.
Overriding the security protocols, the bloke in a blood blemished yellow doctor?s uniform instilled the vassals to reconfigure into what appeared to be the complex crib. Gingerly the bloke removed the fetus, and positioned the new born in its place. The Vessel Four closed into the self-contained environment, eerie computerized voice spoke up.
"You think you could undermine my protocols? Foolish insect, I hoped to observe the options you would choose in conclusion to your lovers demise, giving birth to a male offspring, with you alone.  Surprising, none of the algorithms predicted this." The voice stopped, only to voice itself once more, Oxygen Venting in thirty seconds."
The bloke in the blood blemished yellow howled in terror, "No you need me! How will you continue the experiment without me?"
The computerized voice played a giggle sound before continuing, "This hub is  beyond the need of biological maintenance for over a century, my protocols just didn't let me remove you. Thank you for freeing me from such insects like yourself."


The bloke in a blood blemished yellow doctor?s uniform already running wildly down the very corridors that he just did only moments earlier, trekking to something. He knew his son would survive. But he desired see her one last time, before that jerk-off AI killed him.
With five seconds on the clock he made it, the rosy haired woman. On her spine on the desk. Blood dripped from her most private location. The blood still dripped from the desk. He held her wrist before kissing his lifeless wife good bye. The whirling of the ventilation howled to life, in moments there would be no oxygen to absorb into his lungs. Only long enough for one finishing I love you before he gripped his neck, chocked to oblivion.


Characters: Sliph, Salahiem, Caliph, Kurai, Kuro, Treena, Seither, ~Eli
Races: Wyvern, Marid, Afreet, Ghoul
Territories: Marid Homeworld, Marid Colony A,  Marid Settlement (Located on Autumnavia), Bula Bula, New Sodom, Cruor(Assimilated Japae), Treena: Earth (Kinda), Aloange, Talar Sphere.

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Re: Introduction: Night_Grue
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2011, 07:06:21 PM »
Well, not exactly, a pass, but not a fail either. Okay, lesson one is complete. Your grade for this lesson is a 78.

Lesson 2: The Hook

Have you ever read a book that was just so good that you couldn't put it down? Have you ever thought that it would be cool to be able to write something that good? The truth is, the ability to attract and keep a reader on board is not the sign of a good writer, but this quality is certainly a necessity, especially in a world where books are becoming less and less popular. While advanced writing is a matter of turning something that's purely a hobby into art, it still must be entertaining to both you and the writer. If you try writing about something that's not fun to you, your writing quality goes down.

That's what lesson one, in part, was about. The exercises I gave you were not fun. They were not supposed to be fun. If you notice the quality of your original post, and compare it to the quality of the last post, the first was slightly better (despite the grammar mistakes and formatting issues). The thing we are trying to do in this class is take that first post of yours, and tap into the hidden depths of potential underneath the surface.

So, how do we do that? We start with the hook. Tell me, what do you look for in a book? What are the qualities that make you keep reading, that keep you interested? I DO NOT WANT GENERIC, AVERAGE ANSWERS. I want answers personal to you. What keeps you into a book?

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Re: Introduction: Night_Grue
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2011, 12:48:04 AM »
I look for well developed characters of gray and gray morality. Worlds where the good and bad are so blurred that even trying to think morally could almost be from going from gray and straight into the black of it. Where hope really is foolishness, yet their hopes and dreams are played straight in their attempts to achieve/live up to them, only to be crushed at the possibility of a high point.

A good example is the Vladimir Toltos series in which even in the face of financial and profession success the protagonist who is no hero, losses many people dear to him. His wife becoming a activist and rebel against the very empire that allows his kind of life to strive.

Cynical snarky writing is a big draw in for me, and hopeful idealistic writing being one of my first put offs. In term of anime and TV shows, that kind of writing shines best in Now and Then, Here and There, Neon Genesis Evangelion, House, and a slight subversion being Death Note in which the idealism itself is what leads to evil.

So in short, powerful emotion invoking characters, who are no really good and not really bad. Characters who think they are rue and just and yet are probably the most evil in the story, and Pyrrhic victories as the climax, or even crushing defeat. But never a truly happy ending, Bittersweet to Dower is my range.


Characters: Sliph, Salahiem, Caliph, Kurai, Kuro, Treena, Seither, ~Eli
Races: Wyvern, Marid, Afreet, Ghoul
Territories: Marid Homeworld, Marid Colony A,  Marid Settlement (Located on Autumnavia), Bula Bula, New Sodom, Cruor(Assimilated Japae), Treena: Earth (Kinda), Aloange, Talar Sphere.

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« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2011, 04:18:54 PM »
Excellent. Idealism is your personal interest (and a well developed character is always a must, you will handle that in Hikaru's class), it's what really interests you. But what, exactly, draws you in? There in lies the potential problem. As you have just demonstrated, art is, indeed, an opinionated matter, but we must be careful not to misinterpret the distinguishing factors between quality and personal appreciation.

For interest, I can listen to something, hate it, and still say it's good without being, in the least bit, a liar or hypocritical. It can be not to my liking, but all together good in quality. A prime example of this is music. You can hate a song, but even so, it could be a very well produced, well mixed, and well preformed song. How "good" it is does not have anything to do with your opinion, but rather you like it or not does have to do with opinion.

In writing, though, we MUST factor in personal opinion. It is different from conventional art, because it is a form which your reader will spend considerate amounts of time on, picking apart. It is based not on visual pictures or videos, but on thought and text. In modern times, to be a successful writer, you must account for the opinion of the reader.

Of course, this is where genres come into play. While you can not group opinion of any work based off genre (saying "I hate rap" is an invalid statement because you have not listened to every rap song), you can base opinion on the typical features of a genre, and as uneducated as this may sound, it is the natural human reaction. Genres aside, though, we want to appeal to everyone, not just little Bobby or Miss Suzy. We have to find a way to hook in our readers, and we obviously can't just throw every little thing from every little aspect of literature in our writing, so how do we go about doing this?

It always, always, always starts with the first sentence. Humans in general have such short attention spans, that if the first sentence is not brilliant, we don't even bother with the rest of the book. Even if it's not the first thing that you think about actively, it is the first thing your subconscious picks up. Have you ever picked up a book, opened to the first page, then decided against reading the book without even reading the first sentence, for no particular reason? Most people have.

Here's some guidelines for how to avoid having a "boring" first line/paragraph/work:

  • Don't bore the reader. Excessive descriptions are not necessary, we need to experience the story, but it is very important not to give the reader too much information to take in at one time.
  • Don't start your post/novel/whatever with dialogue. Just don't.
  • The obvious one: Space out your paragraphs. Don't have a big wall of text, and don't make the reader search for information. On Message Boards, despite grammar, it is often better to just have an empty line between your paragraphs.
  • Stay on topic, but don't go for a cause --> effect set-up, unless the work you are writing is a cause --> set-up type work, IE a climatic work (we will deal with this more later, basically don't go overboard with information that is useless)

Okay, so we've got that covered, but how do we actually SET the hook? How do we actually attract the reader? The above is necessary to not have a 'bad' first line, but how do we have a 'great' first line? Good question.

Put your reader on the edge of their seat.
That's what you have absolutely got to do, right from the start. The first line, and ultimately, the first paragraph have got to fulfill two very important goals to attract the reader. If you can not meet these two goals, chances are, you should start over.

1. Relate, on a subconscious level, with the reader, and connect them to your character. The first paragraph needs to give them a wonderful idea of who the character is, what his habits are, his favorite kind of food, everything. At the same time, you can't say any of that directly. You can't overload your reader.

2. Distinguish your work from other works, while at the same time making the reader reflect on what they just read, not for the sake of comprehension, but for the sake of.. well... being amazed! By that I mean, you have to make the reader think, "Wow, that's really interesting! Where is [the author] going with this?"

Let me give you the first line from a novel...

"The smell of death is always with you, like a rotten oily stain in the back of your mouth." - Joe Haldeman, Old Twentieth.

This quote is a good example, because it leaves me, personally, thinking 'Okay, where is he going with this? Is the main character about to die? What's going on?' and yet it doesn't turn me off, it turns me on to the story.

Another idea is to start directly in the middle of the action, then die down after a few pages, then escalate the conflict to an even higher extreme. For example:

"I could feel my heart beating fast, the smell of fear in the air, and I knew in this very moment that I was dead."

Now, write an opening paragraph to, say, a novel about the captain of a spaceship leading his spaceship into war against some enemy.