Potential Energy and it's related technology

[Kalorph_]

Potential Energy is a pretty broad term, but this refers to a certain type of energy. A primal form that has the unnatural..or natural ability to become any other sort of energy, or matter. As long as there is enough of it to make the transition proper. This energy has only been discovered naturally in the eleventh dimension, which makes it rather difficult to harvest. As it's a type of energy that is impossible to synthesize, as it's the original template for all matter, and other types of energy. Harmless by itself, but with a sentient mind and will behind it potential energy becomes one of the most dangerous things in existence. Not because it can burn through suns, or freeze planets. But because of the possibilities that unfold once it's used. It does have some limitations however, the types of energy or matter potential energy can transition to are unlimited, but the mind behind it is not. If someone were to never encounter fire, then he would never be able to change potential energy into fire. Because of ignorance. But not due to the energy itself not being able to perform such a task.

There is a summary of Potential Energy, how it is acquired comes next.

[King Jeebus]

My only problem with it that it does seem to be a sort of "cover all" of powers. This may be just how I read it but one could create any energy that they encounter? That seems kind of overpowered in the sense that one could literally just go online and 'google'(Whatever we have on SP) "energies" and suddenly become super powered

[Admiral Regis Hermitage]

Im not comfortable with this either.

[Kalorph_]

In a sense yes, potential energy has the ability to become any other sort of energy or matter, but once it has made the transition it is no longer potential energy. And will remain as that sort of energy or matter. The only limitation imposed upon the energy are those of it's user, and the amount of potential energy available. A small amount cannot become a sun, and a man who knows nothing of electricity cannot make it.

[King Jeebus]

[22:27] <Jeebus> You know I just realised
[22:27] <Jeebus> I was thinking oh the energy can become anything, meaning one could effortlessly copy anything one saw
[22:27] <Orph> Hm?
[22:28] <Jeebus> But then I kinda realised that one would have to learn how to use each energy they made
[22:28] <Jeebus> Making it essentially pseudo magic

With that im still holding off on approval until I know how the potential energy is made, how much of it a person can hold and such.
Really I have no issue with a pseudo magic provided it doesnt suddenly become four billion times stronger than magic but does the same crap.

[Queen Bright]

...Technically it's not Pseudo Magic. Pseudo magic would be false magic created from artificial or different means. But Magic is already an energy form of existence, which this is an energy as well. ...Wouldn't really be anything different.

I want to know how it can copy spells. I can see how it can copy a fireball. But how can it copy the binding form of rituals, or elaborately programmed spells. Control would make sense as it stays in the casters control. But programmed spells? I can't see how this would copy that just as Hiro's can't. Only magic its self or Spirit Energy can...

Another point, you say 11th dimension. IRL the concept of dimensions are different than RP. We don't have a '11th dimension.' Where'd it come from RP-wise?

Umm you'll have to change the name.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potential_energy

I'm also not comfortable with this as it'd give him access to bloodline magic and magic that can't be obtained normally. Such as Genesis or Revelation.

[Kalorph_]

Spells are two parts, the energy, and the will behind it which causes the desired effects. Potential energy is just that, the energy part, it can transform in the desired energy used in the spell. But unless the caster has the same intentions it cannot technically "copy" a spell.

In a way Hikaru. The 11th dimension could easily be modified to be a SP-verse dimension, it just has it's own type of physics.

And no I wont, the other potential energy is more of a concept, instead of an actual physical thing. It can be easily distinguished if the person confused understood what the real potential energy is.

Not really, it would give access to Revelation energy, and Genesis energy. Nothing more.

[Queen Bright]

Spells are two parts, the energy, and the will behind it which causes the desired effects. Potential energy is just that, the energy part, it can transform in the desired energy used in the spell. But unless the caster has the same intentions it cannot technically "copy" a spell.

In a way Hikaru. The 11th dimension could easily be modified to be a SP-verse dimension, it just has it's own type of physics.

It's not just will and energy. There's also requirements on some spells such as rituals or blood-based magic. There's others, but I can't think of them at the moment. I'm not asking if it can copy a spell the caster sees. I'm asking spells in general. Can it be used to start a ritual? Can it be used to freeze one in place, or seal them? Can it be used to make a candle float and transform an object? Or is it just purely offensive 'magic' elements, energy attacks, and constructs?

Also, I have a problem with it having its own physics. It would destroy the limits on technology. We break some laws of physics but we never have broken them all (except in epoch circles and ingrounding) or had a location of all of them being different (except in non-existence).To have an area where they are completely different? We take off the only law system we have to go by in technology, battles, and basically anything. If it's completely different... hell you could say up is down and a is non a, b is non b, completely lose any distinctions. In a philosophical sense (god I love this class  ) It would break all Reason.

[Kalorph_]

That's the essence of the eleventh dimension. It DOES break reason, logic, and common sense. It's a place where everything will happen, because everything has the potential to occur.

Hikaru, you see to forget magic in the basic form is nothing but a command, and the energy taking that command. A magical seal is just that, energy that keeps something in, or out. The command part of the seal is the will, while the magic is the energy. Potential Energy as I said is harmless as potential energy, it doesn't effect anything really. It wont burn, wont freeze, wont cause any physical reaction. It's only have a will has been placed behind it, and after it changes into a different matter or energy.

And Potential Energy has to follow physics inside the rest of the universe, the eleventh dimension ITSELF doesn't.

[Zero]

This tech is overpowered, but if it were universal....

[Queen Bright]

Shut up Hawkeye, you're not helping.

That's the essence of the eleventh dimension. It DOES break reason, logic, and common sense. It's a place where everything will happen, because everything has the potential to occur.

Exactly. There should not be a location that does that. Epoch circles already do it. Non-existent obvious does it. But a location within existence that's not part of a spell? I can already see it would be used for godmodding.

Hikaru, you see to forget magic in the basic form is nothing but a command, and the energy taking that command. A magical seal is just that, energy that keeps something in, or out. The command part of the seal is the will, while the magic is the energy. Potential Energy as I said is harmless as potential energy, it doesn't effect anything really. It wont burn, wont freeze, wont cause any physical reaction. It's only have a will has been placed behind it, and after it changes into a different matter or energy.

Magic is not just a command and energy. It is a converted form of Existence its self which allows will to work with it and requirements. Not just any energy can become a ritual.

[Kalorph_]

Hikaru, SP's version of magic is so overly complicated and uses abstract concepts to explain it. Which is retarded.

: of or relating to rites or a ritual : ceremonial <a ritual dance>
2
: according to religious law <ritual purity>
3
: done in accordance with social custom or normal protocol <ritual handshakes> <ritual background checks>

A ritual is an action. Of course ENERGY cannot become an action, but it can be used in said action.

As for the eleventh dimension, how would it be used for godmodding? But meh, I already have a solution. A rework of the energy. A name change too, since I might as well.

PRIMUS
Is actually not purely an energy. It's in fact a unique type of exotic particle that reacts to sentient thought and will. The way it reacts is by taking the form of any other known matter or energy, although said sentient will behind it must know of the energy it wants the exotic particles to become. It's created by converting naturally abundant dark energy into these exotic particles through specialized generators, as Dark Energy is located everywhere within space, this allows for constant creation. It's even more abundant in the void of space, and even more abundant in the true voids between galaxies. PRIMUS can only convert itself into another matter or energy once, because afterwards it is no longer PRIMUS but what transformed into. Losing it's metamorphic abilities. A few key facts about PRIMUS is that it can only be controlled by a single person at one time, after a sentient mind "marks" the particles it only reacts to that person's psychic signature.

There, does it work now?

[Queen Bright]

So you've made it to where only your character can use it ever? Yet you're making it a particle that's everywhere. That seems kinda contradictory. I still don't like the fact that it can become any energy you want to use.

If it became magic would it still be blocked by AM tech?

[Kalorph_]

The thing is it wouldn't become magic, but the energy which is a by product. Let's say it became Revelation, it wouldn't be Revelation MAGIC but just the energy under control of the user.

Last I heard AM tech blocks magic, not energy.

[Queen Bright]

Then it wouldn't work. Magic isn't just some random energy. It's existence converted. Existence is not completely an energy. Not one you can just turn into anyways. Convert from, but not to.

[Kalorph_]

Hikaru, it can't just be "converted" existence. Once it becomes energy it's energy.

[Queen Bright]

It's not energy. As another term for it? Yes. Existence/energy, whatever. But it's the same type that AM fields would de-convert and prevent from converting to.

Now an energy as a separate entity from the Existence? (aka separate from magic) No.  Energy works as a term but not a separate entity.

There is Revelation magic. Which could be called Revelation energy, Revelation existance. Revelation whatever.
But there is not a Revelation magic AND Revelation energy. So on for other magic types..

[Kalorph_]

So..magic is not at all energy? Then how does it affect the world? If it isn't energy it isn't anything. Existence has to be converted into something that can affect the natural world.

[Queen Bright]

It is converted into something that can affect the world. Magic. Existence is converted to Magic, Sentience/Non-Sentience-Spirit Energy/Psi, and Tech Existence (different from regular tech). It is energy in terminology only. Not as a separate entity. So sure, think of it as energy if you want. Existance energy. But there is not Magic and Energy of types of magic. There is only Magic.