Author Topic: OOC: The Real Mission (Read 5511 times)

Admiral Regis Hermitage · « **Reply #25 on:** December 05, 2011, 11:13:16 PM »

We've all concluded that both parties were at fault... but unless Asura was there to contest the command on the circles, then its valid. Nowhere does it say that time cannot be messed with. It only says that an embodiment can override a command that is their domain while in FH.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #26 on:** December 05, 2011, 11:15:16 PM »

Quote from: Lord Lyoko222 on December 05, 2011, 11:13:16 PM

We've all concluded that both parties were at fault... but unless Asura was there to contest the command on the circles, then its valid. Nowhere does it say that time cannot be messed with. It only says that an embodiment can override a command that is their domain while in FH.

Actually, in the past, she's stopped ANY spells that mess with time once she obtained her powers back. It was the only way to control time godmodding when Time was unlocked. She doesn't have to be there to say "NO FUCKING WITH TIME" Spell no work." Go check the past posts where Hawk's spells and others were stopped

And you just said it you've concluded both were at fault. Staffs decision. Therefore ACCEPT IT, and post or face 3-days. There's nothing left to freakin' dispute.

Admiral Regis Hermitage · « **Reply #27 on:** December 05, 2011, 11:16:54 PM »

just re-read my post... i didnt freeze time. I SEEMINGLY froze time. I froze everything in place, which can appear to be messing with time, while in reality, it isnt.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #28 on:** December 05, 2011, 11:18:25 PM »

To Time it would be fucking with time. At least when I was playing her, it was.

EITHER WAY, again. There is nothing left to dispute.
The decision was solved by Jeebus, K2, Red, and Myself. Enough people to give a stupid second opinion.
Now get on with it, damn.

Admiral Regis Hermitage · « **Reply #29 on:** December 05, 2011, 11:20:27 PM »

Explain to me, how it can happen, then i will accept it.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #30 on:** December 05, 2011, 11:27:27 PM »

He explained it in post already -.-,

It wasn't really Kurai, and the katana was switched out after it was stolen from Inari.

Both are summons. Not summon where they need to be summoned, they're already summoned just taking different form.
The katana summon is frozen in its false form (even though you shouldn't be able to fuck with time.) But the Kurai summon exists in a world where time is frozen therefore frozen time is its nature and time being unfrozen would make it assume the false form. Because you froze it, it assumed its true form due to its nature. It's used to frozen time basically.

I think that's how he explained it...

Admiral Regis Hermitage · « **Reply #31 on:** December 06, 2011, 04:15:53 AM »

But time isnt frozen... Time is still moving forward even though the station is frozen. If they were frozen at 8:00 GST, and they stayed frozen for about 20 minutes, itd be 8:20 GST. Time isnt frozen, but if one were to have the ability to walk around the station at this time, they could make an assumption that it is, but time is most definitely moving forward.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #32 on:** December 06, 2011, 06:14:45 AM »

Time in the area is.

Admiral Regis Hermitage · « **Reply #33 on:** December 06, 2011, 07:14:52 AM »

I think I would be the one who knows whether or not time is frozen. If I freeze the station, time doesn't freeze unless specifically stated. People can be frozen along with their freedoms without the need to freeze time.

Capxeno · « **Reply #34 on:** December 06, 2011, 10:47:50 AM »

Quote from: Lord Lyoko222 on December 05, 2011, 11:20:27 PM

Explain to me, how it can happen, then i will accept it.

Simple, the creature that is moving natural environment is what you just caused. If you returned everything to normal the creature would again appear to be just Hikaru kantana. thus open up the more powerful of the two to attack, the one acting as Kurai.

Kurai was never there, this was more of a reveal than anything happening while things were frozen. Heck, the very act of freezing things was the mistake, except Eve and Halsy no one else can defend themselves. Nice job breaking it hero.

Either post an IC response or far as I am concerned this falls under the 3-day rule. Also, if it feels like a "retcon" post I would feel that is Gmoding.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #35 on:** December 06, 2011, 11:48:30 AM »

Quote from: Lord Lyoko222 on December 06, 2011, 07:14:52 AM

I think I would be the one who knows whether or not time is frozen. If I freeze the station, time doesn't freeze unless specifically stated. People can be frozen along with their freedoms without the need to freeze time.

You CANNOT just change the meaning of your post like that.
You had your character even say he froze time, or never thought he would have to freeze time. You posted that clear as day now you're going to try to worm your way out of it by saying you meant something else just to save yourself?

King Jeebus · « **Reply #36 on:** December 06, 2011, 11:59:14 AM »

Right, Lyoko you've been given a second, third and FOURTH opinion. If you cannot accept that what Cap did is viable or if you cannot convince Cap that what he did was NOT viable in the next three days then the result of this conflict ends negatively for both parties involved IC. I'm getting sick of this topic holding up the whole event.

Admiral Regis Hermitage · « **Reply #37 on:** December 06, 2011, 12:47:26 PM »

And you people never thought that maybe, just maybe he was speaking figurativy?

Queen Bright · « **Reply #38 on:** December 09, 2011, 02:36:52 AM »

It is midnight and now the 9th. The warning was posted the 6th...

3 day rule?

Capxeno · « **Reply #39 on:** December 09, 2011, 02:38:50 AM »

Quote from: King Jeebus on December 06, 2011, 11:59:14 AM

Right, Lyoko you've been given a second, third and FOURTH opinion. If you cannot accept that what Cap did is viable or if you cannot convince Cap that what he did was NOT viable in the next three days then the result of this conflict ends negatively for both parties involved IC. I'm getting sick of this topic holding up the whole event.

Ending negatively for both parties? I can live with that. three day rule.

Embodiment of Cringe · « **Reply #40 on:** December 09, 2011, 01:08:12 PM »

Stuff is arising from Epoch circles? I can help!

... Wait, no I can't. You guys basically just covered everything. There are a few situations that can work out differently depending on the use of the circles. This stuff deals with Asura and no one else. How the summons work and whatnot is beyond me.

1. The freezing time function
-- Freezing time in a certain area in an Epoch circle is indeed one of it's functions. However, as Asura is the embodiment of time, her power overrides anything to do with time the Epoch circles might be mucking with. If Lyoko222 was freezing time, this topic is over with and Cap's actions or whatever go through. However...

2. General freezing function
-- This is the function that is most used by Faote when he still had control of False Heaven, and was such a useful function that it got it's own shortcut command to the function. This basically freezes particles/atoms/energy in place, while allowing other certain particles to move. This explains how those frozen can still speak. Time is not being mucked with here, the kinetic energy or how particles/atoms/whatever move is. In the case that Asura would try to override this, it would not happen. Something like an embodiment of energy or movement ~~or Heat (Heh, an embodiment that won't exist.)~~ would be needed to override this.

I probably screwed things up even further with this post, but it goes back to how the 'freezing' was applied. If time was frozen, Asura overrides it. If it was just frozen in general, not so much.
If that's out of the way, it seems you guys still have a dispute with the summons.

... Man, I'm super glad I gave FH away. I dun wanna deal with all of these events. :?

Queen Bright · « **Reply #41 on:** December 09, 2011, 08:37:37 PM »

So the question now is does Lyoko lose since he said froze time or is he gonna pull that "Well I didn't mean that because now it's not allowed and I wanna metagame" stance?

I say it's been freakin' long enough, just end the damn argument now. And Lyoko shouldn't be able to change the meaning of his post just because he doesn't like the outcome.

Embodiment of Cringe · « **Reply #42 on:** December 10, 2011, 12:16:06 PM »

According to a PM I got from Cap, his summons go through.

Man, if Faote was still in charge, he wouldn't even hold events and whatnot like these... xD

Admiral Regis Hermitage · « **Reply #43 on:** December 10, 2011, 07:14:11 PM »

Alright... i was really just waiting for Zai's take on it. I'll bloody post.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #44 on:** December 10, 2011, 07:31:33 PM »

Quote from: Lord Lyoko222 on December 10, 2011, 07:14:11 PM

Alright... i was really just waiting for Zai's take on it. I'll bloody post.

Too late. Three day rule has been called. You've had over 7+ days. It's over.

Capxeno · « **Reply #45 on:** December 10, 2011, 09:31:09 PM »

Quote from: Magister Hikaru on December 10, 2011, 07:31:33 PM

Quote from: Lord Lyoko222 on December 10, 2011, 07:14:11 PM
Alright... i was really just waiting for Zai's take on it. I'll bloody post.

Too late. Three day rule has been called. You've had over 7+ days. It's over.

I may be bias, but I agree. The was nothing to dispute to begin with...

K2 · « **Reply #46 on:** December 11, 2011, 10:17:21 AM »

Sorry Lyoko, think 3 day rule does apply, you did have staff concensus days ago. Thanks to Zai. For helping resolve the matter anyway.

That said, Cap's last action is considered valid. Can we move on with the event now?

King Jeebus · « **Reply #47 on:** December 11, 2011, 01:22:16 PM »

I did say if no post was made in three days there would be negativity for both.
In this case, Kurai did get away however FH now does have records of her intent but NOT of Kuro(If he's still there).
On the other side, Kurai is now clued in on what her clone illusion thingy heard.
There.
Can we PLEASE move on to the next fucking day?

K2 · « **Reply #48 on:** December 11, 2011, 01:52:42 PM »

Yes. This is done.

K2 · « **Reply #49 on:** December 30, 2011, 03:03:07 PM »

In regards to these three posts:
http://shatteredplanes.com/forum/index.php?topic=4690.msg43492#msg43492
http://shatteredplanes.com/forum/index.php?topic=4690.msg43504#msg43504
http://shatteredplanes.com/forum/index.php?topic=4690.msg43713#msg43713

Log with Cap (he was on Hik's account):

(3:01:12 PM) wolfboy2323: I'll post in the OOC thread
(3:01:26 PM) Gina: I didn't ignore Eve's counter.
(3:01:36 PM) Gina: Hasey didn't have a real counter.
(3:02:36 PM) Gina: If doesn't explain how he escaped the summon then obviously he didn't escape. I countered what was trying to save Eve.
(3:03:00 PM) wolfboy2323: http://shatteredplanes.com/forum/index.php?topic=4690.msg43504#msg43504 he didn't explain how he countered, which is bad, but you should have responded then with an OOC comment asking how he counters, because he did counter none the less
(3:03:07 PM) wolfboy2323: it's not a big deal or anything
(3:03:14 PM) wolfboy2323: but still it presents a problem now
(3:03:35 PM) Gina: that would be OOC affecting IC. No way would I ask him to clarify.
(3:04:16 PM) Gina: HE didn't explain how thus the only way to make it have IC sense is dream logic, IE why it was only an illusion
(3:04:44 PM) wolfboy2323: eh, I disagree as he posted that he did counter, but none the less some form of negative action needs to be inflicted on Halsey because he didn't specify
(3:05:20 PM) Gina: Halsey is dead, if not deader than dead... and if the summon dies Eve dies. sooo.

Okay so let's get this wrapped up quickly.