Author Topic: Archive Technology (Read 22946 times)

Orph · « **Reply #25 on:** December 03, 2009, 08:40:28 PM »

Cept you're assuming I'm going to use space debris as a an attack, which I will not. Hell, the only things SM is going to be used agaisnt is Titan ships and Planets. And no, space debris is incredibly small to begin with. Hell to make anything actually noticeable you'd need to have a drop of SM in space for years before there was an actually changes in mass. SM wouldn't do anything actual damageable to a shield more than a ballistic missile, due to SM only being able to convert matter not energy. It would destroy the SM, thats why the missile is only used after the shield is down.

Nisorin · « **Reply #26 on:** December 04, 2009, 12:01:56 AM »

Regardless of all that, one of the major points is that it converts too quickly to be approved. Tech approvals aren't affected by how you intend to use it, but how it could be used.

Also, I have just realized another, quite massive problem with this tech. If Strange Matter converts all matter, that means that it would convert the containers it is put in, the ships it is fired from, any and every kind of matter that it comes in contact with.

Orph · « **Reply #27 on:** December 04, 2009, 03:33:54 PM »

As I said, the SM is held within a powerful EM field to prevent it from making contact with its container. And, I guess I could make the conversion proccess slower. How bout around a hundred miles in every direction every ten minutes, lets say it hits a planet as large as Earth. Earth is 24,859 miles long if it was flattened. Therefore it would take 2486 minutes to convert it entirely into SM, around 41 hours. Nearly two days, therefore it would be reasonable to say that evacuation would be possible, and if the enemy empire had some kind of technology that would could stop the conversion proccess that gives them enough time to do such a thing.

Nisorin · « **Reply #28 on:** December 05, 2009, 12:22:06 AM »

Ah, forgot about the EM bit, sorry. And as for the speed, it sounds alright to me. How many posts covers two days?

Orph · « **Reply #29 on:** December 05, 2009, 12:23:42 AM »

I'd say the entire topic, if you can't stop before that topic ends then the planet is lost.

Gaserlake · « **Reply #30 on:** December 05, 2009, 07:27:43 PM »

Hang on. Just because you aren't aiming for space dust, it doesn't mean you will have it converted to strange matter. A ballistic missile can do considerable damage. Nukes are ballistic missiles, for instance. I know, Strange Matter isn't going to do that much damage, at one point, but doing it around the entire ship would do the damage of a nuke every second. Also, you got the speed wrong. A hundred miles every 10 minutes would not take 41 hours to cover the entire earth. It would do, if it only converted the surface, but converting towards the center of a planet, and going to the other side of the planet. Going into Earth underground directly to another side of a planet would make it take far less time to take it over. So, it would take 41 hours if it was only flattened. But in reality, it would spread in all directions, but from your point of view, it goes in 2D, but no, it goes in 3D. Thus, space dust is an addiction to Strange Matter. Also, converting into Strange Matter would require it to go down in a subatomic level. Atoms aren't that much to convert, so it would convert very fast. More dense elements would make it go slower, but the atmosphere is hardly dense, thus it would take such little time for it to go around the entire planet. Space dust may be incredibly small, but Strange Matter converts down to the subatomic level.

How many anti-titan missiles does it take to penetrate through the titan's shields?

Orph · « **Reply #31 on:** December 09, 2009, 12:07:31 AM »

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Hang on. Just because you aren't aiming for space dust, it doesn't mean you will have it converted to strange matter. A ballistic missile can do considerable damage. Nukes are ballistic missiles, for instance. I know, Strange Matter isn't going to do that much damage, at one point, but doing it around the entire ship would do the damage of a nuke every second.

First on, what the hell does the first sentence mean? I didn't say space dust wont be converted, but that it is so small in regular space that it wont really have an effect. Unless you shoot it into a nebula, then shit goes down. And nukes only do a shit load of damage due to the nuclear explosion, when I said ballistic missiles I meant one without a warhead. A kinetic missiles basically. And those would only do a very small amount of damage, they'd have to go incredibly fast to damage something.

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Atoms aren't that much to convert, so it would convert very fast. More dense elements would make it go slower, but the atmosphere is hardly dense, thus it would take such little time for it to go around the entire planet. Space dust may be incredibly small, but Strange Matter converts down to the subatomic level.

Sure does, it converts very fast. But to make things fair it would take an entire topic for an entire planet to be converted.

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How many anti-titan missiles does it take to penetrate through the titan's shields?

Lrn2read, I said SM missiles are only used once the shields are down. Otherwise it would be like shooting a small piece of metal with some goo in it at a planet. Once shields are down they are fired upon the ship, converting it.

Orph · « **Reply #32 on:** December 10, 2009, 09:31:52 PM »

The Library - This is the home base of the Archive, it is a large gray seamless sphere. Around three times the size of planet Earth, it is within the gravity well of a Quasar. A super massive black-hole at the center of the Kalak Galaxy, it is protected by a powerful Gravitron shield, and coated in EAT. The nature of a Quaser is the Library's defense system, as well as its main power source. Since the Quasar is surrounded by a vast field of gas it sucks said gas into the event horizon, but in doing so it creates a ungodly amount of friction which generates heat, light, and radiation. Which spews forth out both sides of the Quasar. (See link.)http://ksjtracker.mit.edu/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/quasar-by-don-dixon.jpg This hits the Library and is absorbed into the EAT and used to power the Gravitron shield, therefore eliminating the dangers of the black hole. This system of absorbing and using what is emitted by the Quasar to defend itself from its own power source allows the Archive to live within a naturally dangerous place, making it so their enemies are unable to attack them without dying. The Library is also equipped with a large amount of anti-matter missiles which are equipped with Gravitron shields to prevent them being sucked within the black hole. As well as a shield much stronger than a Titan-class ship's shield. Since most of the energy from the Quasar is used to power the Gravitron shield it has a large amount anti-matter generators. The only way to enter and exit the Library is through worm hole technology.

Gaserlake · « **Reply #33 on:** December 10, 2009, 09:46:01 PM »

How close is the library to the quasar, as the stuff the spews out on both sides is what we know as Hawking Radiation. It would have to be far away, as the beams of energy would incinerate the library, if it was too close, as it is very hot. What is inside of it? A huge shield generator, to make it stronger than a titan's?

For the Strange Matter, since atoms are very easy to convert, then it would repeatedly do the same process, making it take a very short time to take over a planet. For space dust, it's everywhere. If a titan is fucked up, then a lot of space dust is fucked up, as well. It takes only an object a half-mile wide in diameter, to effectively affect surrounding objects with the gravitational pull. A size of a titan would pull a hell of a lot of space dust towards it. There are also micrometeorites, which are like meteorites, but too small to be seen by the naked eye, and a danger to astronauts in space. There are a lot of space dust and micro meteors in busy areas, like around a planet, for instance, which is where most battles take place. I bet that there would be debris, from destroyed ships and stuff. That would be also a target. If a capital ship blows up, then there would be a lot of debris, and if Strange Matter is set loose, the entire battlefield would be in danger of being fucked up.

Orph · « **Reply #34 on:** December 10, 2009, 10:24:09 PM »

Nah, since the EAT absorbs all the radiation coming towards it.

And didn't I already say, space dust is to small to effectively effect the mass of the SM? I did, and you have yet to refute that. As for the debris it sure would, and this is a problem how?

K2 · « **Reply #35 on:** December 11, 2009, 09:03:47 PM »

I approve.

Nisorin · « **Reply #36 on:** December 13, 2009, 08:41:53 PM »

I approve the Library.

Gaserlake · « **Reply #37 on:** December 15, 2009, 10:15:21 PM »

It's a problem, because the space that is used as a battlefield, would be strange matter. We would be literally fighting in strange matter.

What is in the library?

Orph · « **Reply #38 on:** December 15, 2009, 10:31:14 PM »

That seems to be YOUR problem, if you can't counter act the SM then its your fault. And no, you over-exaggerating this, the only things SM are used on are Titan class ships and Planets, so unless you're going to blow up that giant blob of goo you're fine.

Orph · « **Reply #39 on:** December 16, 2009, 05:05:43 PM »

Rail cannon - This weapon uses super powerful magnets to hurl pieces of metal at incredible velocity, the amounts of damage is strictly relative to how large the projectile is, and how much power the magnets are using. At full power a normal sized rail gun can fire a SUV sized piece of metal with enough kinetic energy to compare to the nuclear device dropped on Nagasaki. The more metal and power you add the more damage that can be done, these weapons are particularly large and heavy. Usually used as defensive weaponry for the Archive's various outposts. Takes around four posts to charge a normal sized rail gun, and over sized would take six. But would have double the power.

Rupture device - The RD is a handy piece of technology, it emit high frequency electromagnetic waves that cause the surface of metal and other materials to heat and expand. Leading it to weaken and eventually rupture, this would lead to non-shielded ships decompressing in space, and any physical barrier being useless agaisnt the Archive. It comes in three sizes, hand-held, combat, and ship size. Hand held is well hand held, but does not produce enough power to rupture anything thicker then ten feet. The combat is a heavy version of the RD, usaully needing around two people to operate. But produces a lot more waves in a shorter time, able to rupture around fifty feet of material. The ship size is used on well ships, capable of rupturing through four hundred feet of material.

Gaserlake · « **Reply #40 on:** December 17, 2009, 09:38:56 PM »

Hang on. Can you kill it with ballistic weapons?

For the rail cannon, how strong are shields and armor for the outposts that contain the rail cannons?

For the rupture device, how long does it take for it to charge up? What is the range?

Orph · « **Reply #41 on:** December 17, 2009, 09:41:22 PM »

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Hang on. Can you kill it with ballistic weapons?

What?

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For the rail cannon, how strong are shields and armor for the outposts that contain the rail cannons?

Outposts are on planets, not ships. If they do have shields, they'd be around capital level at most.

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For the rupture device, how long does it take for it to charge up? What is the range?

It doesn't charge, but it takes a variable amount of time to rupture the material. It goes the speed of light, so range is far aaawwwaay.

Gaserlake · « **Reply #42 on:** December 17, 2009, 09:47:40 PM »

Can you kill the SM with ballistic weapons, like bullets and missiles, and such?

So, what is the armor, for the outposts. How big are they?

I don't like the rupture device. If it has a long range, and has no charge rate, especially if it is targeting a ship long ways away, it would be god modding, as that can be long range artillery, from another planet, while you are attacking a fleet of ships. Any ship that has no shielding would be subject to almost immediate tear. There wouldn't be a way to stop it, if it is far away.

Orph · « **Reply #43 on:** December 17, 2009, 09:52:15 PM »

You can't kill matter Gaser, you could theoretically destroy it using anti-matter though.

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Its a damn city Gaser, they would've have armor.

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As I said, the device needs time to rupture the target. Depending on the depth of the material, and if a ship has no shielding then it would be in-danger to everything. Except all ships have shields due to that being in the base design of the damn ship. And yes you can, if you have beam technology which also goes light speed you can fire back.

Gaserlake · « **Reply #44 on:** December 17, 2009, 10:05:51 PM »

Meh. SM approved.

I have never heard of an outpost being a city until now.

How much time does it take to rupture a titan? What exactly is the range?

Orph · « **Reply #45 on:** December 17, 2009, 10:08:12 PM »

Outposts are the same thing as a city, just smaller and recently established. Think of a damn settlement.

It goes at light speed, so pretty much infinite. But since it goes light speed I couldn't fire it at Earth from the Library.

Gaserlake · « **Reply #46 on:** December 17, 2009, 11:08:46 PM »

A settlement a city?

The bigger the object, the less it gets ruptured? For example, if you have a planet, it would have nearly no effect, if you target it?

Orph · « **Reply #47 on:** December 17, 2009, 11:10:26 PM »

It would effect it, just not in any noticeable way.

So it would be like putting a drop of water on a inferno.

K2 · « **Reply #48 on:** December 18, 2009, 01:34:22 PM »

Two problems with the rupture device that I see. While I think the device itself is fine, it should be more like a mid-range weapon. That is to say, it should only be able to go out a number of miles from where its stationed, enough to attack on a battle field but not enough to fire too far. This is for two reasons:

It's godmoding, and objects can not go the speed of light in a vacuum. You'd have to cheat around this as hyperspace technology does by alternative means, but its still godmoding.

Orph · « **Reply #49 on:** December 18, 2009, 03:36:13 PM »

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objects can not go the speed of light in a vacuum.

It doesn't use objects, it uses electromagnetic waves, which travel at the speed of light naturally.

And as for the range as I stated, it could reach something light years away but by that time the waves would've dispersed enough to be harmless.