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Re: Archive Technology
« Reply #225 on: May 20, 2010, 09:07:32 PM »
So, basically, beam and laser absorption armor? Beams and lasers are energy. And armor is made of matter, which is basically energy, as well. So... It would be absorbing itself. We went over this in CE, and it's been ruled out as a no.

Either way, how much does it absorb? The words "utterly immune to your Saraton beams" sound awfully close to 100%, which would be godmodding.
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« Reply #226 on: May 20, 2010, 09:15:29 PM »
Noope, seeing as Matter is not Energy, that statement is just dumb.

It absorbs all Beam and Laser type weaponry thrown at it.
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« Reply #227 on: May 20, 2010, 09:19:12 PM »
Well, it would be dumb, if matter wasn't energy. But seeing as matter IS energy, it's actually smart.

Yeah. That's godmodding. That's saying that all energy-type weapons against it is nulled. That means ballistic weaponry and magic, as well. Ballistic, because all of the kinetic energy is absorbed.

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Re: Archive Technology
« Reply #228 on: May 20, 2010, 09:27:32 PM »
As for the Psych Shield, it obviously cant prevent Psychic attacks from beings that it hasn't the data for, AND of which would be too strong for it, correct?
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Re: Archive Technology
« Reply #229 on: May 20, 2010, 09:57:33 PM »
No, since it only absorbs energy in the form of Beams and Lasers, not all energy. And yes, as it scrambles all psychic signatures trying to manipulate things within the field. But yes, if something is incredibly powerful it could overwhelm the field, but it would be weakened and unable to do much. And Matter is Energy in a different form, the BALAR armor only absorbs energy in certain forms, not energy in it's entirety.
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« Reply #230 on: May 20, 2010, 11:47:45 PM »
Well, String Theory states that atoms are actually strings of vibrating energy. String Theory is supposed to bring Physics and Quantum Mechanics together.

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« Reply #231 on: May 21, 2010, 04:58:33 PM »
And? That does not matter as the BALAR only absorbs Beam and Laser type energy, it would absorb itself as it can only absorb things in certain forms. And now I find that your EST is incredibly god modding, as it absorbs Matter according to string theory, yeah?
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Re: Archive Technology
« Reply #232 on: May 21, 2010, 09:46:33 PM »
That would be saying that a shield would absorb a rock. Well that would also be saying that the shield would also absorb things that have the same compositions as rocks. Basically, you are saying that mouse traps would only trap black mice, but not white mice. The only difference is the color. The black and white mice are basically made of the same thing. It would be saying that tanks blow up only one-story brick buildings, but not two-story brick buildings. They are both made of bricks, so it wouldn't matter.

Energy in its energy form, rather than its mass form, has the higher tendency to be pulled towards anti-energy than regular matter. Regular matter would have a tendency to be pulled towards anti-matter. So, if strong enough, the EST would suck in mass, as well, but that would lead to my disadvantage, as I would use more energy getting the mass, than I would gain profit from it.

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« Reply #233 on: May 22, 2010, 10:51:05 PM »
Yes it does, as energy comes it many different forms. Just like your Saraton beams, they would be different from a normal everyday beam type weapon. As would an LOD would be different form a different laser. But the BALAR absorbs energy in those two forms of category. Also I don't really think you can change a psychic signature without changing your very mind, as a psychic signature would be the same as a magic signature. Like a fingerprint.
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Re: Archive Technology
« Reply #234 on: May 22, 2010, 10:55:07 PM »
You would know the differences, but BALAR wouldn't.

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Re: Archive Technology
« Reply #235 on: May 22, 2010, 10:55:55 PM »
Yes, it would. As it's created to.


Aegis dual-layer shielding - The way this shield works is quite simple, the first shield is a layer of microscopic wormholes that lead to an empty point in Space. This cuts down inflicting damage greatly, around thirty-five percent, the second layer of shielding is a unique shield. Most if not all shields are shaped waves of energy that repel incoming attacks, the second layer is a shield that has had it's time between waves cut-in-half. This makes it more of a power drain, but also makes it a lot stronger. Due to the increased power cost it can only be currently used by the Thanatos and Omega.

Re-linker - After extensive study of Noverians the Archive has created something that they beleive is able to "re-link" them to whatever they wish. Instead of all Noverians being linked to Migaitt, they can be linked to whatever they want.
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Re: Archive Technology
« Reply #236 on: May 22, 2010, 11:13:42 PM »
So, it would absorb something that would destroy it anyway.... interesting.... Either way, 100% is godmodding. Lasers and beams can be in all kinds of energy. Thus, it would absorb all kinds energy.

They wouldn't be black holes if they lead to an empty point in space. It would be more like a portal. I don't see how it would block 35% damage. I see it just like your portal shield. If they were black holes, the first layer would also be a big power drain.

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Re: Archive Technology
« Reply #237 on: May 22, 2010, 11:17:09 PM »
Worm holes you ass. lrn2read.

And they absorb energy in directed blasts like Lasers or Beam, they cannot absorb energy if it isn't in that kind of form. And no it isn't god modding is it being indestructible to every fucking thing always forever, this is just immune to lasers and beams. For fucks sake man read.

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Re: Archive Technology
« Reply #238 on: May 22, 2010, 11:26:33 PM »
Uh.... Evidently, I know how to read, as I know that there is an edit sign below. Still, it's just like your portal shield. No.

Uh... lasers or beams could be in any type of energy and be direct. That's the point. Lasers and beams are concentrated amount of energy, thus best and typically used directly. Lasers are just typically intense beams of light, so you are absorbing light, making you invisible, and immune to lasers, and probably beams, as well. Well, it is indestructible to a large portion to fucking things always forever. So, yeah. I do know how to read.
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Re: Archive Technology
« Reply #239 on: May 26, 2010, 09:52:55 PM »
If read, you'd realize that I added the re-linker.

And no, it only absorbs light when its of lethal or damage quality. And beams are well just pure energy in a directed attack, it's meant to absorb that. And due to the way the BALAR armor is it's not as strong as normal armor, meaning regular ballistic weaponry and projectiles would do more damage. And no, it is not.
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Re: Archive Technology
« Reply #240 on: May 26, 2010, 10:19:30 PM »
Gray Matter, Balar upgrade, Psyc-Shield, Aegis-shield, Re-Linker all approved.

Wormhole cannon is too overpowered. Taking down a ship in one shot?
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Re: Archive Technology
« Reply #241 on: May 26, 2010, 10:20:24 PM »
Depending on the size of the wormhole, and seeing as it has to be charged, and can easily be blocked by a larger portal. Which can be created by both magic and technology.

Neutron Star Harvesting - As the Archive harvests supernovas and black holes, which are both created when a star dies they have also created ways to harvest Neutron stars. Which are basically failed black holes.


Brevis type engine
- This is basically a Nemesis type engine refitted to run off of Neutron stars instead of anti-matter/matter collisions. It's equipped with a Gravitron shield which keeps the star's gravity from crushing the engine and whatever instillation it's hooked up in.

Quake inducer - By using magnetic fields the Archive has found a way to create artificial Quakes.

Starquake cannon -  By utilizing the power of a Neutron star's crust produces when it undergoes a sudden adjustment which creates a massive gamma ray flare the Archive has once again, created something that can destroy a planet or an entire fleet in a single shot. The Starquake cannon is hooked up directly to a Brevis type engine, when a Starquake occurs the gamma radiation is flooded out the cannon and towards whatever it's aiming at. This causes both a massive but aimed electromagnetic pulse and a extinction type weapon. Requires ten posts to charge, can be equipped in any ship large enough to carry a Brevis type engine.
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Re: Archive Technology
« Reply #242 on: May 27, 2010, 10:17:35 PM »
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Re: Archive Technology
« Reply #243 on: May 31, 2010, 09:50:35 PM »
I doubt that BALAR would only absorb things that have lethal or damage quality. I think it would absorb it on every quality, as it absorbs 100%.

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Re: Archive Technology
« Reply #244 on: May 31, 2010, 09:51:31 PM »
It absorbs one hundred percent of weapons grade Lasers and Beams.
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Re: Archive Technology
« Reply #245 on: May 31, 2010, 10:00:27 PM »
You're saying that a magnet would attract iron, but not steel.

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Re: Archive Technology
« Reply #246 on: May 31, 2010, 10:10:04 PM »
No, I'm not. Seeing as this is actually simpler then that.

Other then that it's been approved, and I've given you enough reasons as to why it works.
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Re: Archive Technology
« Reply #247 on: May 31, 2010, 10:16:32 PM »
Ahh, but what determ9ns weapons grade lasers? Even the lasers used in eye surgery work by cutting through the membrene of the eye, you know. Who's to say that isn't weapons grade, as it DOES cut through stuff?
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Re: Archive Technology
« Reply #248 on: May 31, 2010, 10:17:07 PM »
Yes, you are. You are saying that iron is a rock, but diamond isn't. Lasers and beams are energy. Literally everything is made of energy. You know potential energy? That's absorbed, too. You're absorbing your own armor. Don't give me the "it only absorbs damaging amounts" bullshit, as it absorbs 100% of energy thrown at it. Magic, light, heat, kinetic, etc. would be 100% absorbed, as they are all energy. That's the point of modern-day tank armor: to absorb as much kinetic energy as possible. The kinetic energy would be from ballistic rounds, meaning that even if armor is as strong as paper, it can absorb a .50 caliber machine gun. Heck, it can be as strong as paper, yet survive a nuke.

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Re: Archive Technology
« Reply #249 on: May 31, 2010, 10:21:35 PM »
Energy in different forms you ass, that's the catcher. It may be energy, but it's energy in different forms. It absorbs 100% of energy that is in certain forms.
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