Author Topic: Archive Technology (Read 23117 times)

Orph · « **Reply #275 on:** June 08, 2010, 06:51:32 PM »

But it's a beam type energy weapon, aannd the Archive has been exposed to it numerous times. Thats two reasons WHY they could.

Gaserlake · « **Reply #276 on:** June 09, 2010, 02:56:20 PM »

A beam could contain many types of energy, making the BALAR absorb many types of energy. Hell, it could contain most types of energy, if not all. Being exposed does not mean you know much about it. You didn't do any research into it IC, so you don't know that it's a unique energy type IC.

Orph · « **Reply #277 on:** June 09, 2010, 03:33:40 PM »

Yes, but those energies are used in beam type weaponry. Meaning that the BALAR still does exactly what it said it does, the type of energy is irrelevant, but what form the energy is used in that matters. A beam is basically pure energy in a directed lol 'beam' the BALAR was created to absorb those, along with Lasers. Which are intensified electromagnetic waves. But the BALAR only absorb Lasers that have enough energy behind them to cause immediate damage, otherwise they are ignored.

Gaserlake · « **Reply #278 on:** June 09, 2010, 06:19:28 PM »

BALAR does not know the difference between very short beams and pulses. Heck, they would probably be the same thing. It wouldn't know the different between a huge beam and an extremely radioactive area. It doesn't know the difference between a big beam or multiple beams than a spread-out attack of energy that wouldn't necessary be beams, which could be magic in this case. Thus, the form of energy would be irrelevant. Any damage would be immediate, no matter how small.

Orph · « **Reply #279 on:** June 09, 2010, 07:33:24 PM »

Who say's it doesn't?

Gaserlake · « **Reply #280 on:** June 09, 2010, 09:55:53 PM »

Several things. Logic for one. Obviously, BALAR doesn't have any eyes or anything to sense with.

Orph · « **Reply #281 on:** June 09, 2010, 10:19:54 PM »

The BALAR has sensors. 8D

Shield and Sword planetary defense system - The SL defense system relies on orbital stations that can emit a shield like energy structure that repels orbital drops and attacks from vessels in space, by strategically placing of the stations the Archive can cover an entire planet in the shield. The stations are inside the shield as well, and the shield's strength is around that of a Titan. But that is not all the SL system offers, the stations are also equipped with powerful weaponry. From anti-matter misses to rail-guns, they are armed tooth and nail. Each station has it's own anti-matter Nemesis type generator, but there is also a hub for the system. Which is equipped with a Star Drive type generator. If this hub was destroyed the system would become incredible weaker, from a Titan class to a Capital class shield. The hub is significantly larger then the rest of the stations. But it's also the heaviest armored, and armed.

Gaserlake · « **Reply #282 on:** June 10, 2010, 06:55:04 PM »

Lolz. That's a good joke. But really... no. I don't even know if you really mean it. I guess I'll bother. Even the sensors wouldn't be able to differentiate. Would it be a magical wide-spread attack, or a very spread out beam? Most likely, it's the same thing, despite the different energy types. It would probably be fried, if it would be connected to the BALAR, due to the amount of energy absorbed.

Orph · « **Reply #283 on:** June 21, 2010, 09:03:13 PM »

Well, depends on the magic. If a Sage used a magic beam of energy it would be absorbed, even if it's source is magic, it's still a beam. The source doesn't matter, the type does. And that's just ignorant,

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Noverian-Archive Experimental Divorare class - The Divorare class is literally a black hole ship, after the Archive discovered the effects of linking Noverians to a Black Hole they got more volunteers and started to create the Divorare class, the Noverians were immune to the Black Hole's effects, this included the gravity well and the TD field. And like with Miggaitt they were capable of controlling it, by creating habitable space inside the black hole and lining it with Gray Matter the two empires working in tandem have created the Divorare class, it's powered by an internal propulsion system that uses the black hole's ambient radiation. It has no weapons but it doesn't need any, it uses his very nature as a weapon. But the Noverians can also launch small pieces of the black hole as a basic ballistic weapon, even a SUV sized chunk can do a large amount of damage, due to the mass and speed. It's staffed by linked Noverians and Archive scientists, it's around the size of a Texas.

Interceptor device - This device can intercept most known types of intergalactic travel, ranging from Hyperspace, Jump Driving, and Drift Space. But it has a limited range, if a ship tries to pass through the affected area with a type of travel that can be intercepted it will exit the travel, or stop immediately.

K2 · « **Reply #284 on:** June 21, 2010, 09:14:41 PM »

Approved.

Gaserlake · « **Reply #285 on:** June 22, 2010, 04:23:16 PM »

[13:26:52] Gaserlake: [13:24:37] Gaserlake: How fast does balar absorb beams?
[13:25:33] kivith: The moment it hits.
[13:25:48] Gaserlake: Instantaneous, near-instant, or?
[13:26:27] kivith: Instantaneous.
[13:26:36] kivith: The moment the energy makes contact with the BALAR it is absorbed.
[13:26:54] nisorinlertis: ?
[13:27:57] Gaserlake: So, balar, DOES absorb instantaneously.
[13:28:06] nisorinlertis: Ah, not how I understood it. Please inform, with the inclusion of that chatlog excerpt, that I retract my approval pending the alteration of that particu
[13:28:08] nisorinlertis: lar point of interest.

It's godmodding. Instantaneous absorption + 100% efficiency = godmodding.

Orph · « **Reply #286 on:** June 22, 2010, 04:43:32 PM »

Incorrect, just because it is 100% efficient does not make it god modding, it makes it 100% immune to a certain type of attack, but not all of them, meaning it is not god modding, but incredibly powerful.

Gaserlake · « **Reply #287 on:** June 22, 2010, 04:45:38 PM »

There shouldn't be 100% immunity to any kind of attack.

Orph · « **Reply #288 on:** June 22, 2010, 04:49:06 PM »

That limits defensive technology a great deal. BALAR is immune to beams and lasers, but is very weak to ballistic and projectile type weaponry, it has strengths and weaknesses.

Gaserlake · « **Reply #289 on:** June 22, 2010, 04:52:38 PM »

It limits it significantly, yet, but not enough to mess up the point of it, or foil it. 50% is a lot. If you half the damage a titan deals, that's a lot of damage lost, even more for an entire fleet.

Nisorin · « **Reply #290 on:** June 22, 2010, 06:30:33 PM »

That's not the problem I had with it. My problem was how fast it absorbs. Instantaneous absorption = no. Every single action in reality takes some amount of time, however small it may sometimes be. This is an irrefutable fact. So, how long will it take to absorb a single fighter/capital/super-cap/titan standard turret shot?

K2 · « **Reply #291 on:** June 23, 2010, 11:11:17 PM »

I approve of BALAR.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #292 on:** June 23, 2010, 11:17:50 PM »

I revoke my approval on the same grounds as Nisorin.

Orph · « **Reply #293 on:** June 23, 2010, 11:22:04 PM »

Alright, it absorbs energy at a trillionth of a second, leading to the BALAR being so little damaged that it might as well not be.

Gaserlake · « **Reply #294 on:** June 24, 2010, 03:50:10 PM »

Uh... Still too fast. That would make you say that the ship survived a maximum of just a lot of big scratches that has no significant damage, after an entire enemy fleet shot at just one ship.

Orph · « **Reply #295 on:** June 24, 2010, 03:52:19 PM »

That's the fucking point of the technology, to be immune, or at least near-immune to Beam and Laser type weaponry, if it still damaged it despite the BALAR that would be stupid.

Gaserlake · « **Reply #296 on:** June 24, 2010, 03:55:39 PM »

Better to have BALAR that absorbs, while taking damage, than have normal armor that ONLY takes damage.

Also, Nisorin said: "Yeah, may as well just be keying a car's paint job."

Orph · « **Reply #297 on:** June 24, 2010, 04:42:12 PM »

Exactly, that makes attacking with that sort of weapon ineffective. Meaning that it forces the enemy to switch to a different kind of attack.

Hummingbird class - This is the new standard fighter/corvette for the Archive, what makes it so special? 360 degree maneuverability. Unlike the other fighters/corvettes it doesn't use a propulsion system that resembles an airplane, it doesn't use curving turns. While a different fighter's turn would resemble a slope, a hummingbird's resembles a right angle. This make it literally the most maneuverable fighter/corvette class known. And to make it even more terrifying it also has 360 degree fire coverage, even more scary is that the vessel is equipped with a battle class VI that takes control of the vessel's auto-turrets, while the pilot controls the more powerful main cannons and navigation system. Due to the massive Gs that the pilot will rack up with it's perfect turns it's also equipped with a internal gravitron shield, making it capable of turning whenever, and however hard as it wants.

K2 · « **Reply #298 on:** June 24, 2010, 05:20:47 PM »

I seem to have misread the BALAR request, I'll approve under reform such as the following:

A. BALAR is not armor but shield modifications.

B. BALAR's effects can be weakened.

Gaserlake · « **Reply #299 on:** June 24, 2010, 05:22:39 PM »

Orph, by the time the enemy switches to a different kind of attack, it's too late. And, if lasers and beams are a primary weapon, it would take a while to switch their weapon type, and that's most likely not going to happen in battle. The more the enemy attacks, the stronger you get. I would say .5 seconds of delay.