Author Topic: Collective tech (Read 6324 times)

Capxeno · « **on:** February 21, 2012, 03:16:33 AM »

Collective pudding production industrial complex

The Collective has collected data on its trade partners commtial habits. Pudding has shown to be a multipurpose product. From desert, to break up therapy, to magic attacks, pudding is a omniuseful product. Thus the Collective using Fold warp technology has designed a complex and secret processes of pudding production, creating a pudding of unrivaled richness and flavor. This pudding is to be shipped in over 9069 flavors, and in two consumer targets. "Normal" and "Adult." Normal is just that normal pudding, perfect for cumsumtion by all. Adult is an alcololic, nicotine, and aphrodisac containing version of pudding, complete with health warning labels.

K2 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 21, 2012, 01:11:59 PM »

YES! =D Approved!

Capxeno · « **Reply #2 on:** March 07, 2012, 12:51:17 PM »

Merdi: plural Merd: singular

Now currently in use as a basic currency of the Collective, requesting its more complex properties.

The Merd appears to be a swirl of emerald and Black coloration. These Coins appear to be glass flecks of some kind. However, these glass flecks are held within a case lining their edge, that has a microscopic power source. This power source allows for a small AM field around only the coin. The reason for this is, that These Glass fleck shatter when magic is applied to them, this is a security measure to prevent accidental loss of a Merd. This field also prevents normal physical shattering of the Merd

However, this means, should you attempt to use magic to multiply a Merd, it is impossible, you would shatter it into a billion pieces by applying magic to it. You see the structure of a Merd's existence is extremely fragile, any attempt to alter or copy it would just undo it very structure, it wouldn't even be a Merd anymore in composition after shattering.

thus magical counterfeiting is impossible, even scientific counterfeiting is theoretically impossible. The Merdi known to exist is natural occurring deep in the core of the Marid Homeworld.

The Merd is the basic currency of the Marid Collective, and thus any lower middle class and above citizen of any trade partners of the Marid Collective would have at least a Merd or two laying around.

Mr/Merd

Elemental group: 19 Ignoble gas
Atomic Number: 240
Classification:   Merd is a Ignoble gas and amorphous solid
Color:   Emeraldish-Black
State:   Solid
Melting point: 23 oC
Boiling point:   63 oC
Shells: 230, 407, 80
Electron configuration: [Mr] 4f10 5d17 6s27 4p83
Density @ 20oC:   1.53 g/cm3
Atomic Mass: 616835.3200 g/mol
Atomic Weight: 8649
Structure:   bcc: body-centered cubic
Hardness:    0.00001 mohs

Ignoble gas:

An element that is extremely sensitive to anything reacting to its atomic structic, and if so will react by distablising into many other elements.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #3 on:** March 07, 2012, 09:47:23 PM »

I stand by what I said before. Any currency is futile with magic around. AM field or no AM Field it CAN STILL be multiplied. I've already got several ways thought up.

Capxeno · « **Reply #4 on:** March 07, 2012, 09:48:11 PM »

... Not the problem Hikaru, you apply Magic to it, its no longer Merd...

Queen Bright · « **Reply #5 on:** March 07, 2012, 09:49:17 PM »

Who says you apply magic TO it?

Capxeno · « **Reply #6 on:** March 07, 2012, 09:56:35 PM »

Quote from: ~Hikaru on March 07, 2012, 09:49:17 PM

Who says you apply magic TO it?

Cannot be duplicated by magic.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #7 on:** March 07, 2012, 09:58:19 PM »

I call BS to that.

As long as you can see it with your eyes you can simply use a spell to bring molecules together in the likeness of it and copy whatever the item has without applying magic to it. Then so it doesn't have magic in it you simply draw the magic out of the spell you used to make it. As long as one has eyes to see they can copy it.

ANYTHING can be copied if given long enough method and trying to say it can't is limiting the creative possibility of one who can think of it.

Capxeno · « **Reply #8 on:** March 07, 2012, 10:06:25 PM »

Quote from: ~Hikaru on March 07, 2012, 09:58:19 PM

I call BS to that.

As long as you can see it with your eyes you can simply use a spell to bring molecules together in the likeness of it and copy whatever the item has without applying magic to it. Then so it doesn't have magic in it you simply draw the magic out of the spell you used to make it. As long as one has eyes to see they can copy it.

ANYTHING can be copied if given long enough method and trying to say it can't is limiting the creative possibility of one who can think of it.

Go read the request itself.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #9 on:** March 07, 2012, 10:08:09 PM »

I did. You're not touching it with magic or using magic even near it. You're studying it by sight and recreating it through magic. You can't say it falls apart just because magic is near it or it'd always fall apart as magic is EVERYWHERE. So to say it would not work by recreating through sight and magic away from it, along is saying the impossible.

Capxeno · « **Reply #10 on:** March 07, 2012, 10:14:21 PM »

Quote from: ~Hikaru on March 07, 2012, 10:08:09 PM

I did. You're not touching it with magic or using magic even near it. You're studying it by sight and recreating it through magic. You can't say it falls apart just because magic is near it or it'd always fall apart as magic is EVERYWHERE. So to say it would not work by recreating through sight and magic away from it, along is saying the impossible.

It falls apart because you messing with it period. For the same reason Even science would have a bishing time recreating it.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #11 on:** March 07, 2012, 10:17:57 PM »

Quote from: Capxeno on March 07, 2012, 10:14:21 PM

Quote from: ~Hikaru on March 07, 2012, 10:08:09 PM
I did. You're not touching it with magic or using magic even near it. You're studying it by sight and recreating it through magic. You can't say it falls apart just because magic is near it or it'd always fall apart as magic is EVERYWHERE. So to say it would not work by recreating through sight and magic away from it, along is saying the impossible.

It falls apart because you messing with it period. For the same reason Even science would have a bishing time recreating it.

BS, Then just handling it would make if fall apart. Do you play with your money? I do. Stack them from big to small and spin the coins round the table. If this was true they'd have fallen apart then. There is no way the 'coin' could tell if you were looking at it/studying it by sight vs just playing with it and reading what it says because you were CURIOUS (Quarter text anyone?)

It'd have to be sentient to tell one vs the other. So unless it's so delicate one can't play with it or even HANDLE it thus making it useless to even use, it can be copied by sight -.-

Capxeno · « **Reply #12 on:** March 07, 2012, 10:24:00 PM »

Kinda the point a special field to prevent it from breaking....

Ghost · « **Reply #13 on:** March 07, 2012, 10:24:23 PM »

IC Disputes for you two?

:/

Admiral Regis Hermitage · « **Reply #14 on:** March 07, 2012, 10:38:57 PM »

Quote from: ~Hikaru on March 07, 2012, 09:58:19 PM

I call BS to that.

As long as you can see it with your eyes you can simply use a spell to bring molecules together in the likeness of it and copy whatever the item has without applying magic to it. Then so it doesn't have magic in it you simply draw the magic out of the spell you used to make it. As long as one has eyes to see they can copy it.

ANYTHING can be copied if given long enough method and trying to say it can't is limiting the creative possibility of one who can think of it.

Well Actually, we haven't let anyone duplicate the universal currency in the SP. Due to the drastic affects that it could cause on the universal economy. So i actually think that the duplication of currency should be banned from the game.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #15 on:** March 07, 2012, 10:43:56 PM »

Umm... I have duplicated it? If it can be duplicated IC then you can't say it can't OOC or that'd be metagaming. Setting an OOC limit to something that can easily be broken IC.

And Cap, then it would prevent it from breaking when trying to recreate your own.

Admiral Regis Hermitage · « **Reply #16 on:** March 07, 2012, 10:46:28 PM »

Hik, we've blocked it from happening more times than not.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #17 on:** March 07, 2012, 10:49:19 PM »

And that's stupid. Who cares about the economy? If it can be duplicated by magic then you can't ban it OOC as it's limiting something that can happen IC. Currency is stupid with magic as ANYONE can duplicate it with a basic multiplication spell. It's common first level magic.
And so then why aren't I warned? I've duplicated it/created it/materialized it many times.

ESPECIALLY in trading. Hikaru's given materialized bags of money tons.

Admiral Regis Hermitage · « **Reply #18 on:** March 07, 2012, 10:54:42 PM »

Because this is an RP! the economy is something we should have really incorporated into the empire building elements of it. The economy is just as important as having planets, magic, and technology to the RP. All because you dont share the same thoughts about it, doesnt make it less important.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #19 on:** March 07, 2012, 10:56:00 PM »

Quote from: INSANITY on March 07, 2012, 10:54:42 PM

Because this is an RP! the economy is something we should have really incorporated into the empire building elements of it. The economy is just as important as having planets, magic, and technology to the RP. All because you dont share the same thoughts about it, doesnt make it less important.

That does not excuse metagaming. Unless you have an IC reason why currency can't be duplicated (and it being a law doesn't count rebels) then banning it OOC is first and foremost METAGAMING.

Also, another reason it couldn't be a law. No one owns existence or the whole dimension. Different empires and people are free to do what they want.

Admiral Regis Hermitage · « **Reply #20 on:** March 07, 2012, 11:06:27 PM »

We'd be banning it for the good of the roleplay.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #21 on:** March 07, 2012, 11:07:02 PM »

That doesn't matter Lyoko. It's still metagaming and still not a law I personally would follow as there is no IC reason you can give me. We don't need an economy. We've done fine since the beginning without one.

*snaps fingers and a bag of cash appears* Now if only it worked IRL..

Admiral Regis Hermitage · « **Reply #22 on:** March 07, 2012, 11:13:03 PM »

What ever Hikaru... You're going to think what ever you're going to think. I'm not going to argue with you about it.

Capxeno · « **Reply #23 on:** March 07, 2012, 11:13:53 PM »

Quote from: ~Hikaru on March 07, 2012, 10:43:56 PM

Umm... I have duplicated it? If it can be duplicated IC then you can't say it can't OOC or that'd be metagaming. Setting an OOC limit to something that can easily be broken IC.

And Cap, then it would prevent it from breaking when trying to recreate your own.

Naturally occurring. Its a finite a normally useless resource, the whole reason its being used as a currency is its unite properties.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #24 on:** March 07, 2012, 11:20:23 PM »

You can't say one act of handling it would break it when another world not unless again, it's sentient. It can't read the intentions of the one handling it and why they're handling it. It as a coin has NO WAY of knowing you're recreating it if the magic is not done to it.