Author Topic: Collective tech (Read 6365 times)

Capxeno · « **Reply #25 on:** March 07, 2012, 11:26:14 PM »

Quote from: ~Hikaru on March 07, 2012, 11:20:23 PM

You can't say one act of handling it would break it when another world not unless again, it's sentient. It can't read the intentions of the one handling it and why they're handling it. It as a coin has NO WAY of knowing you're recreating it if the magic is not done to it.

Again, its doesn't get duplicated... its a naturally occurring and is delicately mined and then placed in the tiny fields to prevent it from shattering in day to day use as currency.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #26 on:** March 07, 2012, 11:29:14 PM »

You can't say magic can't duplicate it. IT'S not getting duplicated. IT'S not being touched with magic whatsoever. You're only looking at it like say.. a penny on the desk and recreating it in the air before you through using the magic to bring molecules together in its shape and craft.

ALSO it's contradicting. You say there's an AM field to prevent it from being shattered by magic naturally. YET you say you can't apply magic to it. If there's an AM field then the magic applied to it would not touch it due to the AM field. AM fields are absolute they do not choose and pick which magic or intentions of the magic to destroy it destroys any. So it would destroy your magic attempt to duplicate it, but it would not shatter because it wouldn't be touched by magic to begin with.

However that does not destroy an attempt to recreate it away from the source.

Capxeno · « **Reply #27 on:** March 07, 2012, 11:37:22 PM »

Recreate it from the source and its shatters from being to fragile to recreate artificially.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #28 on:** March 07, 2012, 11:39:58 PM »

You can't designate that. There's tons of ways to recreate and make sure it doesn't shatter if you draw the magic out of it and put your own thing around it. Maybe not an AM field like yours. But you can't say in every possibility it would shatter. There's infinite possibilities.

Capxeno · « **Reply #29 on:** March 07, 2012, 11:42:04 PM »

Quote from: ~Hikaru on March 07, 2012, 11:39:58 PM

You can't designate that. There's tons of ways to recreate and make sure it doesn't shatter if you draw the magic out of it and put your own thing around it. Maybe not an AM field like yours. But you can't say in every possibility it would shatter. There's infinite possibilities.

Infinite ways it can break.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #30 on:** March 07, 2012, 11:43:13 PM »

Infinite way sit can be duplicated. Infinite possibilities, infinite timelines where it broke, infinite timelines where it succeeded. Multiverse, remember? It CAN be duplicated, end of discussion.

Capxeno · « **Reply #31 on:** March 07, 2012, 11:49:37 PM »

Nope, only infinite ways it can be shattered, no way it can artificially created.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #32 on:** March 07, 2012, 11:51:21 PM »

WRONG.

MULTIVERSE, there's infinite possibilities for everything as long as every action or choice by every being in existence can be branched out. I've sat here explaining ways it can be duplicated, through multiverse there's infinite more ways. You CANNOT designate that there are not as that'd be designating something not in anyone's power to designate.

Capxeno · « **Reply #33 on:** March 07, 2012, 11:56:22 PM »

Again, if you try to duplicate, its too fragile. You are trying to make a 109 year old women with with a thousand different types of end stage cancer to run a five hundred billion light Marathon, with kleets. She is dead. Period. She never made it out of bed in a single one of the multiverses.

Even if you did manage to do it, you'd have to be a lv 9000 mage, and you'd only duplicate the Merd once and the duplicate would be Longcat-grounded.

Not possible to duplicate.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #34 on:** March 07, 2012, 11:57:54 PM »

It's still possible. There's no reason it should not be possible. It's a basic LVL1 spell. Again, sight, draw out magic, encase in something to keep it together or hell just put it in a bigger AM field while you duplicate that one you created or find a better surface to put around it.

ALSO let's go off the things we haven't touched. Spirit Energy and Psi, neither are magic and both can be used to cast a duplication spell.

Problem solved.

Won't approve the request till you admit that it is possible it can be duplicated as nothing is impossible on SP.

Capxeno · « **Reply #35 on:** March 07, 2012, 11:59:42 PM »

Quote from: ~Hikaru on March 07, 2012, 11:57:54 PM

It's still possible. There's no reason it should not be possible. It's a basic LVL1 spell. Again, sight, draw out magic, encase in something to keep it together or hell just put it in a bigger AM field while you duplicate that one you created or find a better surface to put around it.

ALSO let's go off the things we haven't touched. Spirit Energy and Psi, neither are magic and both can be used to cast a duplication spell. Spirit and Psi wouldn't ahve pretty mush the same problem.

Problem solved.

Won't approve the request till you admit that it is possible it can be duplicated as nothing is impossible on SP.

You'd just shattered the original and the duplicate, and the dust wouldn't even be Merd substance anymore...

Not through Magic, I said Science would have a bitching hell ass time, not impossible... but maybe. And it would take a few eons of artificially created environments.

Only way to duplicate is Science + Planet sized lab space + eons of time.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #36 on:** March 08, 2012, 12:03:13 AM »

Quote from: Capxeno on March 07, 2012, 11:59:42 PM

Quote from: ~Hikaru on March 07, 2012, 11:57:54 PM
It's still possible. There's no reason it should not be possible. It's a basic LVL1 spell. Again, sight, draw out magic, encase in something to keep it together or hell just put it in a bigger AM field while you duplicate that one you created or find a better surface to put around it.

ALSO let's go off the things we haven't touched. Spirit Energy and Psi, neither are magic and both can be used to cast a duplication spell.

Problem solved.

Won't approve the request till you admit that it is possible it can be duplicated as nothing is impossible on SP.

You'd just shattered the original and the duplicate, and the dust wouldn't even be Merd substance anymore...

It has no reason to shatter the original. YOU DID NOT TOUCH THE ORIGINAL WITH MAGIC OR ANYTHING. AGAIN!
STEP FUCKING 1: Look at the damn thing, memorize its construction.
STEP FUCKING 2: Recreate through magic.
STEP FUCKING 3: Put the NEW creation in a AM FIELD to keep it together. It wouldn't shatter it as you didn't make it from magic you just USED magic to make it. It's like making clothing from magic. Why does the clothing not disappear in an AM field? It wasn't MADE OF magic, it was made FROM magic through using magic to control the molecules to come together into a solid.
STEP FUCKING 4: Find something to put around the newly created coin while in the AM FIELD, but DO NOT touch it until you find such a thing.
STEP FUCKING 5: DO OVER.

ALSO

Quote from: ~Hikaru on March 07, 2012, 11:57:54 PM

ALSO let's go off the things we haven't touched. Spirit Energy and Psi, neither are magic and both can be used to cast a duplication spell.

Problem solved.

Won't approve the request till you admit that it is possible it can be duplicated as nothing is impossible on SP.

SEE EDIT

Capxeno · « **Reply #37 on:** March 08, 2012, 12:07:05 AM »

Magic is impossible. It would break it. PERIOD. Spirit and PSI SAME ISSUE. Applying these special powers to its structure would destabilizes its structure and it would no longer be Merd.

The process of making it artificially destabilizing it. Trying to make it with in a AM field at all doesn't matter. IT would fall apart like a house of cards.

For Magic to work see: lv 9000 mage, and you'd only duplicate the Merd once and the duplicate would be Longcat-grounded.

Science + Planet Sized lab space + eons of time = Maaaaaayby

Queen Bright · « **Reply #38 on:** March 08, 2012, 12:10:02 AM »

NOT period. You can't say that. You're not using it ON THE ONE YOU HAVE. You're using it to CREATE A NEW ONE DIFFERENT FUCKING STRUCTURE BUT SAME THING. You are not APPLYING THE SPECIAL POWERS TO IT YOU ARE USING THEM AS A TOOL TO CRAFT YOUR OWN.

If this didn't work then them existing wouldn't work to fucking begin with because the AM field part isn't naturally occurring as AM FIELDS AREN'T NATURAL (unless it's Nil or Nihil.) So don't give me the fucking bullshit that magic would destroy it in trying to create and craft your own by memorization and sight unless putting the AM field around the first ones mined did the fucking same thing.

NOT APPROVED until you admit it can be duplicated and yes by a basic lvl 1 because that is a lvl 1 spell. FINAL!

Capxeno · « **Reply #39 on:** March 08, 2012, 12:21:02 AM »

Well then I guess NOT APPROVED THEN.

Because the point was to have have a non-duplicatable currency.

Beware Ye Who Enter Here · « **Reply #40 on:** March 08, 2012, 04:47:57 PM »

*pokes head in* Um... maybe a credit economy?

Capxeno · « **Reply #41 on:** March 08, 2012, 09:12:14 PM »

Level 6 magic, and only in small quantities, the amount of concentration needed would be ridiculous to prevent it from becoming unstable and just becoming something else, and the energy needed to prevent it from destabilizing after that is ludicrous.

Even then, only if a Marid Merchant can tell if its copies and laugh at the mage for being an idiot counterfeiter.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #42 on:** March 08, 2012, 09:40:14 PM »

It's a level 1 spell and it wpuldn't be counterfeit, so no to the second condition.

Capxeno · « **Reply #43 on:** March 08, 2012, 10:52:55 PM »

Quote from: ~Hikaru on March 08, 2012, 09:40:14 PM

It's a level 1 spell and it wpuldn't be counterfeit, so no to the second condition.

Level 6 and yes to the second, they would know you messed with it, period.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #44 on:** March 08, 2012, 10:56:54 PM »

The mage wouldn't 'mess with it,' they would be making their own in the same form. It wouldn't be counterfeit.

Capxeno · « **Reply #45 on:** March 08, 2012, 10:59:03 PM »

Quote from: ~Hikaru on March 08, 2012, 10:56:54 PM

The mage wouldn't 'mess with it,' they would be making their own in the same form. It wouldn't be counterfeit.

Again, any copies would have to be detectable by the Marid Merchants or hell no. Also, Level 6 spell.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #46 on:** March 08, 2012, 11:00:35 PM »

And I'm saying they wouldn't be detectable or hell no in approval. Lvl1 spell.

Capxeno · « **Reply #47 on:** March 08, 2012, 11:09:34 PM »

Quote from: ~Hikaru on March 08, 2012, 11:00:35 PM

And I'm saying they wouldn't be detectable or hell no in approval. Lvl1 spell.

No, it damn well would be, and its would kill a level one trying.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #48 on:** March 08, 2012, 11:21:29 PM »

No approval then.

Capxeno · « **Reply #49 on:** March 08, 2012, 11:25:00 PM »

Quote from: ~Hikaru on March 08, 2012, 11:21:29 PM

No approval then.

Again, approve and able to be copied means there is no point.

There whole point of this is to have a currency with some damn value.

Level 6 and the Marid can tell, or honestly it doesn't really matter if you approve.