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Perfect Weapon: Shattered Planes
« on: February 27, 2012, 01:47:19 PM »
During the Imperfect-Perfect War. The Imperfect had the advantage of control the force most suited to warfare. Destruction. As a pure force de4struction may as well be war incarnate. How then, this the Perfect fight this force? After being pushed close3 to the bring, they forged through means now lost, a weapon for every force under their power. These weapons twisted and perverted the forces in a way in which they could not only be used to fight Destruction, but used to fight the Imperfect in-scale. These are the weapons currently known to still exist.


Perfect Weapon: Creation

A crystal seed.

Weaponized a point of Creation. Creation is inherent in all things, to remove creation from something is near impossible. When activated there is nothing that can be done to deactivate it, even time had no effect on this, you have to rewind to a time when creation itself did not exist. This Weaponized creation forms as a side-effect a corporal tree, that grown into a forest, that will continue to grow. This growths will never end, unless stopped by outside means. There is a song, that if sung and the sapling watered will halt the growth of the tree.

Owner: Sliph

Perfect Weapon: Time

A dagger. Rusted to ruin one half of the blade, perpetually new on the other half.

Someone cut by this blade has this body randomized to different points of their life. a head of their senior years, toes from their middle age to toddler years. Imagine if each part of your body was from a different age of your life. That is what happens when you are cut by this blade.

Owner: Jay

Perfect Weapon: Space

A strange Orb.

Separates you from space temporarily.

Owner: Kaleb Tyris


Perfect Weapon: Order

A symmetrical green blade

Creates order where there is none or creates symmetry


Owner: Sliph's Desk

Perfect Weapon: Peace

A Tye-dye bandanna


The target cannot perform violent actions without it damaging the spirit. Violent thought alone are painful, actually trying to kill someone is deadly to the spirit itself. this last merely a week.

Owner: Salahiem

Perfect Weapon: Love

A glass Rose

The target, if even a little affection for the user, is multiplied exponentially to the point of extreme devotion. Either the target is a doting slave or an obsessive servant. The target will love and know only the user.

Owner: Lost or Destroyed.


Additionally, these weapons are keyed to fight Destruction. For instance, Perfect weapon: Space, there is no way you can be touched by destruction powers while under its effect. It’s the Perfect deference for that purpose. . For Creation using Destructing magic or powers on the sapling/tree will feed it and cause it to grow faster and more viciously. For the others, should you be an owner of a Perfect Weapon and face Destruction powers, use you imagination, the only reason this did not win the war for the Perfect was that there are only one of each, and that they wiped each other out. It was a game of numbers.

Additionally, the actually extent of power a Perfect Weapon has depends on the user. Magic level, Magic type, and what not affects this. Jay is the second best possible user for Perfect Weapon: Time.  The best for any Perfect Weapon being the Embodiment themselves.


Oh, an embodiment knows when the weapon of their force is being used, unless Space or Time, not where. Unless time, not why. However, if they have sufficient reason to, the Embodiment  over that weapon can snap their fingers or blink their eyes or who cares and the weapon will do jack until they want it to.


This is not the end all be all of these weapons, I will be RPing mine out more, and those I RP out find or receiving this weapons will be RPign out their use. Thus this document will expand and these weap0ons will be further defined by that.

Speaking of, I own the idea of Perfect Weapons, however K2, Hikaru, and Kai as founders own the backstory. K2 is the main one I go to to work out anything to do with these weapon since the Perfect-Imperfect war is his gig. This does not mean I intend to give these weapons only to those I damn well feel like it. Just that I'll remain in control of that process. Have an idea for one? Shoot me a PM, I'll work out with you, then work it out with K2, and then maybe I'll NPC where one of your character 'might' find it, or something. However, just remember I'll generally make you work for them, the first few were just to get them out there and because for plot reasons Sliph has a few just tucked away. Hell, depending on which character Sliph may just drop it in that characters lap somehow.



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Re: Perfect Weapon: Shattered Planes
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2012, 05:03:36 PM »
Eh, no, the idea of Perfect Weapons is too generic of an idea to "own".

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Re: Perfect Weapon: Shattered Planes
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2012, 05:04:03 PM »
**That said, all of these weapons need to be ran by all staff members before suggested, I've only heard of three of these.

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Re: Perfect Weapon: Shattered Planes
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2012, 09:22:31 PM »
Given what these are, and admittedly as well how overpowered they are in my opinion...I must honestly say that, if we're going to be allowed to vote...That these be restricted to event-only, and even then specific occasions. I know magic doesn't need requesting and with most things there's honestly no need for it, but moooost of these...Yeah, I cant say a lot of these look like fair use for any old occasion even with the limits.
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Re: Perfect Weapon: Shattered Planes
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2012, 01:32:28 PM »
Eh, no, the idea of Perfect Weapons is too generic of an idea to "own".

Not generic, sure its not the most creative RP idea ever. However, it was something I came up with after thinking about your history. Now, does that mean I am going to hoard them to myself? Hell no, I said I will work with anyone who has an idea for one, and I meant  anyone. Once the idea is hammered out with me, it can be presented to staff if needed.


However, Red, the two times Creation has been used it has been removed. First time was because contradictions got layered up so much that it got hit by something powerful enough to say, "There is no tree!". Second time, you yourself defended against it, I think I've shown that these are not instant kills or win. These are not OP, just really powerful.

Now Love is one that I put there for that sake of having up there, I don't ever really want it being used, because I couldn't think of something less powerful to fit Love. But that one is one I'd consider OP.


Peace is just bait for amusing RPing. Its limit of lasting only a week could be reduced to a few hours. However these are limited in that they all have to be recharged after us, practically this means, once per topic. Second Yes the embodiment over it can stop it from being used at any time. Third, how power the effect really is is based on how powerful the magic user is, this won't let a lv 1 mage destroy Earth with a fast growing sapling.

Not OP, that have limits, and while not the most creative idea, I did come up with it, and wish to remain a corroborator on all future future weapons. As in, I help in terms of getting their idea fleshed out, help ensure the staff understand its existence and limits, and NPC the situation in which the person who wants one characters have a chance to get their Perfect Weapon.


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Re: Perfect Weapon: Shattered Planes
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2012, 08:37:24 PM »
I'm really not liking the whole creation/destruction bits. Those are massively powerful forces that I'm not even totally comfortable with myself playing with using Leirra and Neirron, or even Koty and Eli, not that I have anything I can do about that one.
Creation magic alone is OP. And the first time you used the seed it was taken out by an out of the blue white flash via Hikaru. It was very much a deus ex machina, and very much unexplained. That was after it destroyed a moon, and you saying that it was never a seed.
The thing is, this tree was never a seed and could never be a seed. Its most basic form is a sapling. As it time rewound past that most basic form, it began to grow in reverse, roots up, tree down. The roots reached a forest size of gnarled tendrils of roots. The tree itself reached deep into the earth. How do you destroy what just continues to grow and grow no matter what you do.

Also, if you yourself go back in time to before the plant is placed, it still remains there.
OOC: No, just no. I went back in time that last time. I didn't touch the tree, so I didn't do anything to it. He didn't turn it into a seed, he went back in time to when it was about grow backwards. He wasn't
focused on turning it into something it cannot be...
He was pushing himself back in time. I didn't touch it while it was anywhere near the moon. Therefore, if it did split in half, the two sapling must be next to one another.
And that's not OP?

And nice job making it stopped by something most people will not be able to without metagaming. I did EVERYTHING to get it out of there. I teleported it, I pushed it back in time to before the seeds existence, and several other things that should have saved Helios. Nothing worked.

It's overpowered, to the level that it's a godmod. Plain and simple. Hiro, I agree, these Perfect Weapons should be limited to specific topics.
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Re: Perfect Weapon: Shattered Planes
« Reply #6 on: February 29, 2012, 01:12:47 PM »
Nik, for one thing, no the saplign tiself never was a tree, get over it. The weapon is, and the effect of the weapon is separate from the weapon itself. What I've told you many, many times is that the weapon activates a point of creation that is in all things or it wouldn't have be created/exist. This activation is what causes the sapling to grow, going back in time does not get rid of the activation, you have to go back so far that creation did not exist at that point. Time is good for saving you time to figure something out, but as you kept using it, it did not solve the problem.

The main reason you got so messed up by the tree was the you were being rather dim about your approach. You were like someone in a Chinese handcuff trying to rip it to pieces and failing.

I have thought of a dozen ways a lv 4 couple have saved that moon, and no I am not going to tell people what ways I thought of, why tell people how to beat my stuff? You have a  brain too, use it. No "seeds" as you wrote it existed in the first place so you entire posts did basically nothing but buy you time, and honestly, that should have been enough to think of something else besides time which wasn't working.

Hell I'll tell you one solution any lv 5 could do. The moon was barren and had no life right? Why in the hell did you not just teleport the whole moon away somewhere else? No loss to Helios and its out of danger, win for you. Hell Hik's told me a couple ways she'd get rid of it.

Just because someone failed to defend against it doesn't mean you can't defend against it, just that that person failed. Not OP. This is if not easy, only moderately hard, you made it harder on yourself by using powers that didn't help your situation and were very powerful. You don't need a sledgehammer to crack open a peanut.



There is no reason limit them to specific topics when they are limit well enough, and honestly at best are not even above what constitutes a normal lv 5 spell. Additionally, I find that concept a little meta, because unless there is a good RP reason to limit something why the hell is it limited to that topic?

Not OP, they barely go above lv 5 spells anyway, and have a number of limits I have stated anyway.


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Re: Perfect Weapon: Shattered Planes
« Reply #7 on: February 29, 2012, 01:27:23 PM »
I'd like to see what would have happened if Orph had requested these. Or even Jeebus or K2.
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Re: Perfect Weapon: Shattered Planes
« Reply #8 on: February 29, 2012, 03:43:50 PM »
We actually did play around with the idea of Embodiment power imbued weapons; but they weren't like this.

I do like the idea though, but they'd have to be heavily controlled on their accusation and usage.
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« Reply #9 on: February 29, 2012, 04:08:57 PM »
I'd like to see what would have happened if Orph had requested these. Or even Jeebus or K2.

Jeebus and K2 have character with one...


We actually did play around with the idea of Embodiment power imbued weapons; but they weren't like this.

I do like the idea though, but they'd have to be heavily controlled on their accusation and usage.

That is why I want to be the first in the loop of the process. Since I did kind of come up with the idea. anyone wanting one, comes to me privately, pitches it to me, works it out with me, and then as a team the person and em pitch it to the staff and work out any kinks then RP out its possible accusation.

As far as usage, I kinda don't think that a person can use more than one without it damaging their spirit adversely, so that in-within itself limits them. Also, explains why Sliph doesn't just carry around the ones he has. at the same time, the usage is also limit in terms of needing a recharge after each use which is practically expressed through only being able to be used once per topic.


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Re: Perfect Weapon: Shattered Planes
« Reply #10 on: February 29, 2012, 04:23:26 PM »
While I agree with the weapons requiring your own approval as they are your idea and creation. That is only if they're accepted and included permanently into IC. If not then it's an idea, but other people have had similar ideas.

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Re: Perfect Weapon: Shattered Planes
« Reply #11 on: February 29, 2012, 04:46:58 PM »
I believe that "Perfect" weapons or creations of any kind should be limited to event only topic and such. This is partly because of the fact that they are, by their very definition over powered. Not only that but allowing just anyone to use them whenever weakens the story and the awe that one might feel about these powerful, lore inspired weapons to begin with.
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« Reply #12 on: February 29, 2012, 06:28:01 PM »
I've got mixed issues about this, so I'm going to take this issue to the staff.

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Re: Perfect Weapon: Shattered Planes
« Reply #13 on: February 29, 2012, 08:46:06 PM »
I believe that "Perfect" weapons or creations of any kind should be limited to event only topic and such. This is partly because of the fact that they are, by their very definition over powered. Not only that but allowing just anyone to use them whenever weakens the story and the awe that one might feel about these powerful, lore inspired weapons to begin with.

Honestly, they are not overpowered, yes they have a great deal of power but honestly it just takes a little more wits to counter than flat out power. You have to be a bit more Sam Fisher than COD to win in your tactical thinking, so what?

Honestly, limiting to event only, unless there is a good, really good IC reason is beyond moronic especially when there is no need for balancing when, come on guys lets face it a lv 5 in within itself is worse than a perfect weapon. there have the limits that make some god awful IC sense and are not OP.


Oh, and yes there are ways to get rid of the tree many ways. I am by no means going to state them even in OOC, discover them in IC. Just because time isn't one of them doesn't make it OP.
« Last Edit: February 29, 2012, 09:24:49 PM by Capxeno »


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Re: Perfect Weapon: Shattered Planes
« Reply #14 on: February 29, 2012, 11:27:07 PM »
I think the staff should judge that, not you.
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Re: Perfect Weapon: Shattered Planes
« Reply #15 on: March 01, 2012, 11:47:37 PM »
Cap, I did teleport the plant away. I teleported it to Deletrius. You shrugged it off the same way you did the time thing. If the only way to pluck it out of the ground is to remove the entire moon, then how can you say it's not OP?

I'm really not liking the whole creation/destruction bits. Those are massively powerful forces that I'm not even totally comfortable with myself playing with using Leirra and Neirron, or even Koty and Eli, not that I have anything I can do about that one.
Creation magic alone is OP.

Also, I'm not comfortible with this at all. To have to come to you just to create a powerful magical artifact? NO! that's completely unfair, and if it ever were the case it should be a staff member who had such a privilege. Not one of the few who actually believes the point of Shattered Planes is to rule the universe.
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Re: Perfect Weapon: Shattered Planes
« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2012, 04:09:42 AM »
Guys, seeing as it's in a way a request makes it a staff matter. Quit backseat modding.
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Re: Perfect Weapon: Shattered Planes
« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2012, 10:06:28 AM »
I don't see a problem pointing out our opinions on the subject...
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Re: Perfect Weapon: Shattered Planes
« Reply #18 on: March 02, 2012, 06:00:58 PM »
It's annoying Zak! That's what. We are adding valid points to the pot which makes the issue more complicated, more thought out, and more work for the staff.
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Re: Perfect Weapon: Shattered Planes
« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2012, 07:03:24 PM »
They accepted the positions with all the responsibility that came along with it. They can suck it up or quit.
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[X] Live inside black hole.
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Re: Perfect Weapon: Shattered Planes
« Reply #20 on: March 25, 2012, 06:30:46 PM »
*Hi-Five's Jack*
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Re: Perfect Weapon: Shattered Planes
« Reply #21 on: March 25, 2012, 06:51:05 PM »
There was a discussion in Staff Chat about the weapons. Dunno what became of it.

Also backseat modding is annoying when you all get in about requests but really have no say about it. You know.. when it's automated you won't even see the requests. So get used to it.
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Re: Perfect Weapon: Shattered Planes
« Reply #22 on: March 25, 2012, 07:14:38 PM »
"Back-seat" modding has saved the staff from approving OP characters, tech, and races since the start of the RP.

I'm also kinda sure that is how Red made enough of an impression to get staff status; he was good at helping with requests. Member intervention in requests is a bonus that helps with pointing out flaws. The staff is good but you guys aren't perfect. We're not trying to annoy you; just help the site we frequent ourselves.
« Last Edit: March 25, 2012, 07:47:47 PM by Jack »
[X] Tame both Time and Space.
[X] Live inside black hole.
[X] Use the stars themselves to fuel personal war-machine.
[X] Be a God.
[X] Own biggest ship in the universe.
[X] End countless civilizations.
[X] Destroy a couple dozen planets.
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Re: Perfect Weapon: Shattered Planes
« Reply #23 on: March 31, 2012, 09:53:29 PM »
I can see your points Hik, but you've told me to stop backseat modding in my own character requests. It really only would be a problem of someone repeats something without having paid attention to the first person saying it.
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