Author Topic: Magistracy R&D (Read 6412 times)

@Pokemon Master Red · « **Reply #25 on:** May 17, 2012, 02:24:45 PM »

Graaaah I kinda wanted to use that image. Advent are awesome. ;_;
Approved nonetheless, sorry for the wait.

Kalorph_ · « **Reply #26 on:** May 17, 2012, 10:53:00 PM »

Three-point drive - The Magistracy doesn't actually rely on FTL drives to travel across the universe; they use a three-point dimensional technique that allows for them to cross vast distances on same amount of energy per trip. By first traveling out of the dimension and stopping for a total of a plank time inside another dimension, and finally traveling back into the SP verse but in another point in space. This entire process takes little over a second. Distance is never a variable for the TPD.

@Pokemon Master Red · « **Reply #27 on:** May 17, 2012, 11:00:30 PM »

A roundabout, but extremely cunning, manner of travel. I approve of this greatly, both as a Mod and RPer.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #28 on:** May 18, 2012, 01:13:52 AM »

Quote from: Jack on May 17, 2012, 10:53:00 PM

Three-point drive - The Magistracy doesn't actually rely on FTL drives to travel across the universe; they use a three-point dimensional technique that allows for them to cross vast distances on same amount of energy per trip. By first traveling out of the dimension and stopping for a total of a plank time inside another dimension, and finally traveling back into the SP verse but in another point in space. This entire process takes little over a second. Distance is never a variable for the TPD.

No. A second is too fast. Travel should NOT be instantaneous. Change the length of time.

Admiral Regis Hermitage · « **Reply #29 on:** May 18, 2012, 01:55:12 AM »

TPD Approved

@Pokemon Master Red · « **Reply #30 on:** May 18, 2012, 05:08:53 AM »

Quote from: ~Hikaru on May 18, 2012, 01:13:52 AM

Quote from: Jack on May 17, 2012, 10:53:00 PM
Three-point drive - The Magistracy doesn't actually rely on FTL drives to travel across the universe; they use a three-point dimensional technique that allows for them to cross vast distances on same amount of energy per trip. By first traveling out of the dimension and stopping for a total of a plank time inside another dimension, and finally traveling back into the SP verse but in another point in space. This entire process takes little over a second. Distance is never a variable for the TPD.

No. A second is too fast. Travel should NOT be instantaneous. Change the length of time.

Hik, we already HAVE faster than that...Such as Teleportation. Or portals. Plus, a second by definition is not instant. There's nothing wrong with this tech.

Kalorph_ · « **Reply #31 on:** May 18, 2012, 06:30:15 AM »

You're a gigantic hypocrite Hikaru.

Last time I checked you defended jump drives; which are faster then this. They literally have a plank time speed. Which is so fast that it's NEARLY instant, but nothing can be truly instant.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #32 on:** May 18, 2012, 09:10:37 AM »

Travel should not be instantaneous. They can appear instant, but in reality not be. Teleportation is not even instant, it appears it, but one can stop someone in the process of teleporting each step of the way. Your drive needs to take enough time, the further the distance, the longer the time to where it can be countered. It can appear instant, just can not literally be instant.

And no, I did not.

Kalorph_ · « **Reply #33 on:** May 18, 2012, 10:45:23 PM »

Hikaru; you didn't even understand the technology before you denied it.

By exiting the dimension distance is no longer an issue. You'd have to spend the same amount of energy to renter a dimension at ANY point in space; therefore distance is cut from the equation.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #34 on:** May 19, 2012, 10:38:51 AM »

Distance would not be cut from the equation. You still have distance to even exit the damn dimension.

@Pokemon Master Red · « **Reply #35 on:** May 19, 2012, 11:34:17 AM »

Hik, while this is true, the fact is that through this method its a pure constant, and quite frankly a very small one comparatively. By using this method, it would take no longer to move a inch as 50000 miles. And really, the distance traveled would amount to a few atoms at most, probably less, in between each portal. The most of the distance traveled is just moving to and out of the portal you made five feet in front of your ship.

Kalorph_ · « **Reply #36 on:** May 19, 2012, 12:18:58 PM »

No portals are involved. There is also no PHYSICAL exit for dimension, as the walls are metaphysical and in theory you can exit a dimension from ANY point in space. You could also theoretically ENTER a dimension at any point in space.

This is a teleportation technology; they teleport out of the dimension. Which takes plank time, and then teleport back into the dimension. Which takes plank time.

In general a little over a second passes between their reappearance in the SP verse.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #37 on:** May 19, 2012, 01:37:19 PM »

Our dimensions aren't those kind of dimensions. They're an area larger than a Universe. The way you're talking dimension is the IRL version. So no this would not work without any distance done unless it's portals like Red says. Metaphysical or not, a dimension does not go any point in space as they aren't those kinds of dimensions. As long as we've been using dimensions on the site Orph and here you're trying to treat it like the IRL version? Umm no.

And if it's teleportation then it would take more energy than you're capable of without taking time to charge. ESPECIALLY dimensional teleportation as K2 has said before that takes even more energy and charging time for Technology.

Kalorph_ · « **Reply #38 on:** May 19, 2012, 03:45:07 PM »

None of what you just said made sense either grammatically or scientifically.

Last time I was aware a dimension was any sort of plane outside of the multiverse. Since when was it ever hard to travel between dimensions? Aralangs did it easier then shit, magic users do it easier then shit, HELL. A fucking drift gate was a dimensional portal, and that's been around since GE. A full gigantic portal between dimensions that could be created on the fucking fly.
You guys tried to introduce a lot of IC concepts without checking your own fucking backstory and the technology and concepts already in fucking place. That's an amateur mistake.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #39 on:** May 19, 2012, 05:07:49 PM »

Don't insult my own grammar unless you insult your own, prick. It makes sense if you had a brain.

Quote from: K2323_Old on July 31, 2010, 05:32:13 PM

Dimensional portals require great power.

Quote from: K2323_Old

Spell Name: Dimension Teleportation
Spell Level: Advanced
Type Of Magic: Teleportation
Spell Description: Teleportation outside a dimension (where the game is played) is a more advanced spell

Dimensional Travel whether through portals, teleportation, or any other method has ALWAYS taken more power/skill/concentration/magic/tech. Regular teleportation tech can do easily if given the right method... Dimensional teleportation however needs a limit and charge time, and you cannot do it so easy.

Also, explain exactly how tech can telelport. I know how tech makes portals, and I know how it does other things. But for it to copy the magics way of teleportation? NEEDS A DAMN EXPLANATION.

@Pokemon Master Red · « **Reply #40 on:** May 19, 2012, 06:28:33 PM »

...Hik, what? Your asking how Tech can teleport, something that is considered to be a universal technology anyways for all empires who want it? Really? REALLY? Who said it copied magic anyways, teleportation is one of the most common Science Fiction techs there is. Presumably technological empires have had it since before they knew magic even existed.

Admiral Regis Hermitage · « **Reply #41 on:** May 20, 2012, 12:37:43 AM »

Quote from: @Pokemon Master Red on May 19, 2012, 06:28:33 PM

...Hik, what? Your asking how Tech can teleport, something that is considered to be a universal technology anyways for all empires who want it? Really? REALLY? Who said it copied magic anyways, teleportation is one of the most common Science Fiction techs there is. Presumably technological empires have had it since before they knew magic even existed.

Indeed. Teleportation Drives have been around as long as Sci-Fi has existed. Even Halo has them.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #42 on:** May 20, 2012, 03:24:15 PM »

Not on SP... everyone uses portals. There has been no teleportation tech requested except by Gaser and myself at one point. I want your version of how YOUR large fleet teleports. Because as it is, not taking into account the energy needed, the complexity of what you're trying to do and the other things you need for dimensional travel. There's also the size of the ship you're trying to teleport in the first place.

The bigger the ship the more complex it should be and the more energy and resources it should take. Which would NOT take the few seconds you want.

Edit it or no approval based on what we already HAVE as rules in the RP about dimensional travel. Teleporation for technology is much more advanced than it is for magic. No "Oh it's futuristic tech so it works." Like your normal Sci-fi.

Kalorph_ · « **Reply #43 on:** May 20, 2012, 04:53:55 PM »

I've had teleportation technology since GE, and I used it when I ran the Archive. I also find it funny that all it took for Gaser to get teleportation tech was a basic summary of what it did. You only seem to actually make me fully detail shit.

Derp; the bigger the ship the more energy it would take to teleport. But the distance isn't a variable. It has a charge time too; it's not like I can just teleport anywhere instantly. Fucks sake; use your common sense.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #44 on:** May 21, 2012, 03:51:16 PM »

That still doesn't change the fact that going outside of the SP dimension and coming back inside it isn't going to let you go to any point. The SP dimension does NOT extend the entire Dimensional Plane. You go outside of it, it's only so big. But it's also only so small, not small enough to speed anywhere in a second. Distance WOULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

Kalorph_ · « **Reply #45 on:** May 21, 2012, 03:58:42 PM »

...

That would actually work more in my case; a dimension isn't a literally physical thing. You can't see it once your outside it; at least you shouldn't be able too.

Plus I'm pretty sure space wouldn't exist outside of a dimension/universe. If it did then you could literally create a wormhole and go anywhere easily. If space didn't exist; the concept of DISTANCE doesn't either. You're not even really understanding the technology before you even try to disapprove it.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #46 on:** May 21, 2012, 04:05:35 PM »

You misunderstood what I said. It IS A PHYSICAL THING. It's like a Universe only larger. We don't use the IRL definition of Dimension on SP. We never have.
And once you're outside it you'd be in between dimensions in the dimensional radiation in other words DEAD. Unless you traveled to a different dimension and not just 'outside.' Distance would be even LONGER. We're not talking lightyears like it takes to travel the universe, we're talking even longer due to it being a DIMENSION.

Kalorph_ · « **Reply #47 on:** May 21, 2012, 11:02:27 PM »

Then I misunderstood how we had existence set up; in-between parallel universes would be the better option.

Kalorph_ · « **Reply #48 on:** May 24, 2012, 05:52:58 PM »

There should be a three day rule for a disapproval.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #49 on:** May 24, 2012, 05:58:44 PM »

Parallel universe doesn't help your case when that's not how it works either.