OOC: First contact: Zarethians

[Kalorph_]

Dude. The pride of Andromeda AMP pours the collective energy of thousands of gigantic generators across the Andromeda galaxy. Like thousands of Titan sized reactors. The Eliryale was made to be nothing more than a gigantic Magister with an insane amount of energy at it's disposal.

But than add the Blackheart AMP and it goes omega hard mode, and it's controlled VIA the energy imprints of Ararus himself. A born-master of the Magister's racial ability.

He'd expand space faster.

[@Pokemon Master Red]

Its not just the Isolation Engines expanding, its also how fast the Mechera react, as well as more Isolation Engines being generated to fill up the holes as soon as they're made. Also remember that the Mechera dont see the world in seconds and minutes during battles or situations where a extremely quick reaction speed is necessary; they see the world and react to it in microseconds, and adapt to any changes as they're happening. And then there's that you aren't only going against one Mechera, you're up against hundreds of thousands of frigates all able to use Isolation Engines, and more keep coming. Any holes you make, even if they cant be filled by the already-existing Isolation Engines would be filled by a new one being immediately made in the center of the newly made and, by the Mechera's point of view, still quite small hole.

Plus, Im guessing that you're expanding space that the Engines are already at, right? In which case all of this is a moot point because YOU are the one making the Isolation Engines bigger since they already occupy that space and its hardly a noticeable increase in power anyways to cover the expanded space.

[Kalorph_]

He expanded an uncovered part. He's connected and thinks through a machine, and his eyes are super-capital sensors that use exotic particles that can detect things down to sub-atomic levels.
And would IEs require some kind of charge time seeing as you're trying to create world sized and beyond mirror portals in single posts without even attempting to charge them. The Eliryale has the entire topic of charge time with much better generators.

[@Pokemon Master Red]

Technically speaking, a Mirror Shield is only a portal. Because of this, it DOES indeed cover a much smaller area than what you'd think; the area of a Mirror Shield can only be measured in two dimensions, after all. While its safeguarding a world-sized ship, the Mirror Shield itself is far, far smaller than one. Technically speaking, even while covering a entire spacial battlefield, a Isolation Engine is STILL smaller than a moon would be. The space it covers isn't, but it itself is. Its like saying that a Titan would need a charge-up time to make a Portal to move through, which they dont. The reason why you would need a charge time and the Mechera wouldn't is because you are expanding space itself(no easy feat by any means) and creating a Matter/Energy Hybrid for arms/tendrils capable of ripping through and melting down the core of a Titan while the Mechera are just playing with portals.
As for Ararus, alright, so lets say he can probably think on the same terms of a Mechera(assuming the Magister computers run on the same level as Mechera computers, but lets not get into that because they likely dont even work on the same principles and we could be here for hours just debating this one point). That still doesn't change that there are hundreds of thousands of Mechera working and coordinating together(actually even more than there are frigates, since every frigate would have a crew of more than one person for any given task) for the singular task of blocking him from laying siege to the Zarethian Titan.

[Kalorph_]

It doesn't matter how many are working to stop him; the Eliryale has access to a MUCH larger pool of resources than the entire Mechera force involved..it's simple math. He'd only have to keep a relatively small space open for a few seconds too escape.

Quantum computers, and the being able to imprint energy allows them to effectively merge mentally with computers. Temporally that is. It's a technique that uses a bridge of energy that transforms absorbed data into imprinted energy which a Magister can understand. It's a two way bridge so they send data as well.  They pretty much become an extension of the computer and brain activity is reserved for vital functions and processing, and Magister brains are much more advanced than a human one. Almost on par with a QPC. They have to be able to understand the universe around them and they idiots would be are Einstein.

Oh, and his arms didn't "rip" through the shields, or damage the hull. He energy linked with the shielding, and effectively could imprint his command onto the energy. Direct contact is required with an energy link for a Magister to imprint it.

[@Pokemon Master Red]

...Orph, how the hell do you gigure that the Magisters have access to more resources than the Mechera? As you said, you have access to a few suns within one galaxy that you're tapping into. The Mechera control another dimension pretty much completely. I THINK the Mechera have a larger pool of resources. And you dont HAVE a few seconds, thats the thing. With as many Mechera there are, any holes you make are going to be patched pretty much immediately. Not literally immediately, but you get the idea. Its pretty much a matter of miliseconds.

Alright, fine. They can merge mentally with computers. Weeeell, see, thats pretty much LIFE for a Mechera. Also, I should note that while they've been Mechera for at least a few millenia, their space program was six centuries ago. When it began, that is. Prior to THAT, they'd been focusing on how to advance themselves, their computer systems they live in, their very code. If they can achieve all that they have as far as spaceships and interdimensional travel in the span of a few centuries, while recovering from the loss of their homeworld to a supernova I might add for the later few, just imagine how fast their advancement of new technology would be. At that rate of progression, they have been bettering their computers for at minimum two thousand years. Thats how evolved their hardware and software is, and they are still advancing. However, the reason I didn't want to get into that is because as good as our Empires are in these respects, we have no way of comparing them without it, at some point or another, devolving into a 'whoice has the bigger e-peen' shouting contest. The Magisters are intelligent, I wont deny that for a second. But by any and all means, so are the Mechera.

And fine, either way. Point is your OHKOing a Titan. You get the idea.

[Kalorph_]

THOUSANDS of suns, geothermal reactors, nuclear reactors, etc.

Not just a few dude.

Can the Mechera transfer ALL of those resources at one moment into the current action they are performing? No? Guessed not. Well the Magister's can, and that's what you're fighting right now.


It's only a OHKO if Zak can't do shit about it, and who cares? We one hit blow up planets, and this attack has been charged since the start of the topic.

[@Pokemon Master Red]

I dont recall saying no, Orph. To be fair I've never detailed their power transferrence but seeing as you didn't appear to do so as a tech request either I dont suspect I'd need to in order to be capable of it. In any case, as much resources as he has, he's only rxpanding space. How would that in any way stop the Mechera from just making a new Isolation Engine in the holes made(assuming they'd be made in the first place but thats for another point of the argument).
Also, something that was bugging me anyways, if your expanding space then wouldn't you be moving YOURSELF away from your target anyways?

As for the OHKO, thats a problem in my opinion, not a selling point. Plus, you've also gotta realize that more often than not, Titans are designed to be even hardier than a planet. Even if OHKOing a planet wasn't a problem, there's a reason we only get to request one Titan for our factions but we can have five requested Planets.

[Kalorph_]

Actually yes; I did. It's also against common sense for the Mechera to have access to their entire resource pool with having a way to effectively transport the energy. The POD AMP is responsible for this on the Magister's end, and it's also powered by the Blackheart AMP. Two energy sources that are INCREDIBLE by themselves and far beyond a normal fleet's worth of energy output.
That is if I was expanding space in a spherical manner; it would be only two-d like the portals. Only a SMALL amount of space is actually being expanded, and at millions of miles. But hell; if you really want me to end this argument I could edit my post and get past the IEs using a different method. It's easier than shit. But I liked the spacial expansion, because I like violating the laws of nature.

Titans are nothing more than oversized ships, and just because they're big doesn't mean they can't be taken down if you go about it the right way. A Haleax cannon attacks on the atomic level, destroying a singular line of atoms. The armor is pretty much useless when attacked on such a small scale, as it's overall ability to protect is circumvented. Attacking the main core would render the ship disabled or destroyed, and in this case destroyed.

[@Pokemon Master Red]

because I like violating the laws of nature

Oh dude I know right? Thats just the best.

That being said I dont have a problem with your tactic, I was just wondering how it worked(and besides that it'd be cheating on your part to change the post since I already responded to it, even if you called my response into question. Its my opinion that your tactic is flawed, but still could be done).
As for doing that in two dimensions though, that...Kinda wouldn't work. The IEs are two dimensional in that they have no volume(the area they possess would be finding the area of a circle or square) but they're curved around the broadside of the Zarethian Titan. Expanding space in two dimensions, since the expanded space would be a circle and not a cilindar or sphere, wouldn't really do much against the IEs as a whole. Besides that fact, even if my Mirror Shields weren't curved there's like a thousand of them between you and the Titan, you'd only have taken care of one of them in the first place.

Yeah I know they aren't invincible and all, its just they shouldn't be a casual 'oh-hey-a-Titan,-lets-get-us-some-easy-XP!' kinda enemy. Battles involving Titans should be epics spanning pages as they throw blows at each other and take those of the enemy like a bawss with squadrons of fighters up to frigates dogfighting between them, the dead shells of capital ships torn apart in the crossfire or even used as munitions against the enemy and Sub-Titans acting as support for their flagships, both fleets duking it out until one of the mighty spaceborn gods falls and the fleet that'd fielded it routed. Not this lame 'lolz yer Titan is cut in half by my energy beam herpaderpader'(for reference Im not potraying you, Im actually talking about my own Particle Separation Beam in this). Im guilty of at least trying this too since I charge that superweapon every fight Im in, and I know on Shattered at least its completely unrealistic for me to think we'll ever do otherwise because the way we fight, nobody wants to lose ANYTHING in battle so we go for quick, sure kills and impenetrable defenses so our own fleet crushes the enemy with no damage taken(because honestly if we even let the enemy scratch us it'll turn out that weapon was loaded with supernova bombs in its atoms or something and we die instantly because we decided to take any damage at all). Any damage is crippling so dont get hit and apply the hurt onto your foe, blah blah blaaaaaaaaah. Seriously, our fights are goddamned boring to read.

[Kalorph_]

The age of over-sized stupid ships are over.

It is the age of the mech.

Gimme a day or so to throw a post up been busy as fuck.