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Explanation on how some of my tech works
« on: November 28, 2012, 02:43:18 AM »
Because Im bored and dont want people saying I cant do this later in when its more or less always worked this way, just mostly unexplained. I only have three techs completely applicable for this topic off the top of my head but if anyone happens to be doing a archive binge of my technology(for...Whatever reason) and sees one they want a better explanation of it than is in my tech request topic for it, just ask here and assuming I actually have a explanation of it thought up I'll explain it(chances are I'll explain it anyways because people questioning my stuff helps me think of stuff for them).

Iiiiiiiimma start with...Phase Generators. Yes, Phase Generators, a Mechera Technology. The basic effect they have is that a Phase Generatir creates a Fused Zone, and can then shifts things into Phase Space. But, I haven't QUITE entirely explained what Phase Space is, only what it does(which, for the sake of this topic, the gist is things in Phase Space cant interact with things in real space except on a visual level, as they appear as see-through apparitions and move through things in Real Space as though they aren't there).

To put it bluntly, anything in Phase Space is a step removed from Reality. Literally, they only barely exist the way we would think of it. Its stable, you wont just pop out of existence randomly, but thats what it is. Technically speaking, Phase 'Space' does not exist, simply because there isn't some dimension overlaid onto reality or specific subsection of space devoted to holding what the Generators do. There are only Phased Out things. Because they only partially exist, they aren't normally affected by things in Real Space. Physical, Psionic, Magical, Technological, it honestly doesn't matter. It all just passes through. Even sounds are unheard, and communication systems do nothing to a ship in Phase space(unless relayed through a Phase Generator or in a Fused Zone, but more on that later). By the same token, nothing in Phase Space can affect anything in Real Space in any manner, although anything else thats Phased Out is fair game. As for why Phased Out things are still visible, eh, honestly the biggest reason is Rule of Cool. If pressed I suppose I could say that something about Phased Out things partial existence messes with photons and reflects some of them or something but Im not sure on that and dont want to commit that for the reason.

I suppose I mentioned Phase Generators and Fused Zones in there as well, didn't I? A Phase Generator can only work by being Real and Phased Out at the same time. For the sake of explanation, the simplest way I can think of to put it is that they simultaneously exist in both Real 'Space'and and Phase 'Space'(yes I know I've said thats not a thing but its a easy way to describe it so hush :P). The means of making something exist in both spaces is decidedly easier but outside of a Fused Zone(which can also only be made by something that is Real and Phased Out) this existence is VERY unstable(and also vulnerable to both 'spaces'). A Phase Generator cannot have any systems not devoted to Fused Zones or Phasing Out anything(nor be attached to anything that does), or else it will be shifted entirely Phased Out or to Reality and therefore become nonfunctional until its set into its precarious position once more. The reasons for this are largely balancing issues, since A:We're dealing with science fiction with a very loose definition of 'science' to begin with so a actual reason that isn't just me pulling stuff out of my ass is implausible at best, and B: so that I can just mount Phase Generators onto ships and troll the universe. Nope, I(and anyone else who gets a Phase Generator) can only troll you at places we own or that we set up Phase Generators in that topic specifically for. So the IC reason is 'it just doesn't work' and the OOC reason is 'No sending invulnerable fleets of ghost ships that can take over planets because they can hurt people while the enemy cant hurt them'. As for Fused Zones, that is basically space in which both Real Things and Phased Out Things can interact as if both existed on the same state of reality. As a matter of fact, barring Phase Generator's initial hop into both states this is actually the only way for something to be Phased Out; a Fused Zone is created around them and they're shifted into being Phased out by the Phase Generator, or shifted from Phased Out to Reality. Do note that Fused Zones dont HAVE to encompass the entire battlefield; a Phased Out missile could strike a ship in Reality if a Fused Zone is created around that ship, so destroying nearby Phase Generators should proooooobably be a priority in battles where you know what they are(because with Phase Generators nearby, everything in Phase Space is effectively no longer a problem).

One last note since I know it'll come up if I dont say it, but Phased Out things are NOT Ingrounded, Ungrounded, Subgrounded, Tautologies, or whatever else. They decidedly DO exist, just that its barely. There is no way to do any of those with Phase Technology, because thats just nkt how it works. Also the Mechera do have a hypothesis that it'd be possible to Phase something Out entirely, literally causing it to cease to exist, however this is untested, unproved, mathematically and scientifically shakey IC, and quite possibly just false. It'd take heavy modifications to Phase technology which the Mechera more or less just dont have at the moment. Im only adding it here because I want to say, for the record, that it might be possible later on. Maybe. Still never any -grounded or Tautology anything, but it might be possible to chuck them into no longer being(also if this DOES end up possible, no, they dont end up in Deleterious, they just no longer are, cease to be, ect).
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Re: Explanation on how some of my tech works
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2012, 02:43:52 AM »
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Re: Explanation on how some of my tech works
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2012, 02:44:20 AM »
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Re: Explanation on how some of my tech works
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2012, 01:02:28 PM »
Could one simply teleport or portal out of Phase Space back to regular space?
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Re: Explanation on how some of my tech works
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2012, 05:05:18 AM »
Nnnnnnnno. Like I said, you dont go to a seperate location or dimension, you become partially removed from Reality. Phase 'Space' is just a handy shorthand for things in this state; its easier to say 'the things in Phase Space' than 'the things a step removed from being real', and its more accurate to say they're (partially) Phased Out than in Phase Space(but since the tech was very loosely inspired by Sins of a Solar Empire's hyperspace, I still call it Phase Space). You can portal or teleport all you want, but that wont fix that you're Phased Out, it'll just let you be Phased Out in different places(...On that note, I should mention that you wont be affected by the gravity nor heat of anything not also Phased Out, so if you DO warp somewhere you'll probably soon find it either drifting away from you as the planet completes its orbit or yourself falling into it as you harmlessly pass through its crust, mantle, cores maybe...Ect. depending on which side of the planet you warped to. Probably not the most pleasant experience for the psyche, though other than the excruciating lack of oxygen or atmosphere(that you can interact with and breath, anyways) you'll be pretty much completely unharmed).
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Re: Explanation on how some of my tech works
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2012, 10:56:43 AM »
But one can warp to different planes of reality. It IS possible to teleport to North and South, though unlikely. One can transport between entire dimensions, I don't see why one can't bypass a different reality like this.
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Re: Explanation on how some of my tech works
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2012, 04:19:44 PM »
You're thinking about the space part a bit too literally. A different plane is more like a different location; there is no place in, say, North that directly corresponds to a place in the SP plane, so teleporting or portaling is much like doing the same in the same plane. Your location isn't changed at all with Phase Space, you just become less real. Moving through a portal or teleporting yourself wont do anything to change that you aren't entirely real anymore, it'll just change WHERE you aren't entirely real.
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Re: Explanation on how some of my tech works
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2012, 05:22:23 PM »
For this tech to work, you have to take "real" energy and turn into energy that is "not real". The same principal can be applied in reverse, after all, just because you have moved someone to a new place, doesn't mean THEIR energy has become less real.
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Re: Explanation on how some of my tech works
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2012, 05:30:32 PM »
...But they AREN'T moved to a new place with this tech. O.o I...Dont think I got what you just said. A-at all.
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Re: Explanation on how some of my tech works
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2012, 08:49:36 PM »
It sounds a lot like a temporary plane to me. Like the Astral, Physical, Void planes, onlty temperarily created as an instance. But if that's the case, it takes magic a lot of power and concentration, wouldn't it take technology double that in power?
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Re: Explanation on how some of my tech works
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2012, 09:14:35 PM »
Its...Not. There isn't any plane created. I thought I explained it quite well that Phase 'Space' is not actually a thing, its just that 'This guy is in Phase Space' is shorter than 'This guy doesn't entirely exist anymore'. When you're Phased Out, you're still in exactly the same place, dimension, space, plane, universe, RP, whatever. The ONLY difference is that you're less real.
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Re: Explanation on how some of my tech works
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2012, 09:17:44 PM »
Then you're taken out of the other planes and don't exist in any or...? Cause' if one is still in the physical plane they should still be affected by physical things, just like astral plane is effected by astral things... Otherwise it'd be an anomaly.

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Re: Explanation on how some of my tech works
« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2012, 09:24:31 PM »
The DO exist in whatever plane they're in. But not COMPLETELY. Its less to do with any one Plane than how real they are. Its like...They aren't real ENOUGH to be affected by other things in normal reality. And by the same token they cant affect those things either. But they actually CAN affect things that are ALSO as not-entirely-real as they are.
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