That killing...

[Beware Ye Who Enter Here]

I don't want to seem like a douche and I'm not saying that it wasn't an absolutely horrible thing but... Does anyone else feel that the Facebook posts about it are just retarded?
I mean, yes, it was terrible. Anyone's murder is terrible. The fact that someone shot well over a dozen children and six adults is bad. But people don't seem to understand that people are killed or worse every day and we don't even think about it! There are millions of children slowly starving to death, that are afraid to go outside for fear of being killed, that aren't even safe in their own homes! What makes these other twenty so important? Why should we care about them more then the people who are lost everyday? Its stupid, its sad and I despise it.

God bless those victims of the murderer but even more so, God bless those people we don't even think about.

-End Rant-

[Queen Bright]

Hmm... I seem to recall saying the same thing about 9/11 and that stupid Tuscon shooting that was here and yet you all were "OMG THE PEOPLE THAT DIED!"

...Actually I feel more sadness for this one than any of the disasters. Who the hell cares if random ADULTS die. But innocent children is another story.

[Beware Ye Who Enter Here]

Adults and children alike die in most disasters. Anyone dying can be a tragedy, honestly. A grandmother, a mother, a friend, a lover, a husband, a wife. In most cases, when somebody dies they leave somebody mourning their passing. I just, for whatever reason, think we shouldn't simply consider this a special event, because its happening everywhere.

[Ghost]

The one in the states or china?

Mom told me about it and She was so mad that my tone sounded like an "idgaf". I would care if we weren't so overpopulated.

[Beware Ye Who Enter Here]

The States

[Ghost]

There was one in china with a similar result. Some guy killed 22 people in about the same timeframe.

[Admiral Regis Hermitage]

I can already see the hate mail coming from this topic. I feel for the families who lost their children yesterday, just like i do for the ones who lost their loved ones in 9/11. Both are national tragedies, and should not be disrespected by pointless discussion of it, such as the one that is about to ensue.

[Ghost]

Reading Zak's facebook post, I'm with him. What you call a national tragedy happens everywhere everyday.

We only "care" about things we see on the news, instead of seeing other minor tragedies here andin other parts of the world.
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Here's my two cents:

Personally, I don't "care" so much about things like this because it's going to happen somewhere at some time. It always does. Chinese guy killed 22 people. Murderer killed 26 and his mother. 4 lakewood cops were murdered. Over 6,000,000 million killed by Nazi Germans. Over 8,000,000 were killed by Chairman Mao. Several people died in a train crash in China and the GOVERNMENT TRIED TO HIDE IT FROM THE PUBLIC. A major earthquake killed many people in a city, including a school's worth of children.

There's more than just murder. We all die at some point. Some more tragic than others. But we're all going to die anyway.

All we see or care about is what's buzzing in our Media today. I think that's rather bland of us. If we just viewed other worldly issues, biew the charts in population, view everything major and minor; maybe your views would change. Honestly, everyone should know we're overpopulated. People "care" about what they want. If a human dies, we're all so sad. If an animal dies, we're broken even more. Human values are weird. The end.

[Queen Bright]

Eh.. I care if kids or people I know die. Everyone else can joyfully go to hell though.
Oh! And animals of course. Because animals > people.

[Dylan]

A brief analysis on some things you people are saying:
Zak: The number of times I have had conversations with you where you have said things along the lines of "my love life sucks, FML", or "someone did something on SP that I don't like, I am going to quit and burn the internet" are beyond my count. These are also the kind of things that happen every day. The issue here isn't that you consider the reactions overblown, it is simply that it doesn't directly affect you that causes you to not care. Also, accusing other people of over-reacting? Possibly a little hypocritical.
Swift: Just... read what I said to Zak. Pretty much the same applies. As I recall, when you had your cat taken away, you were in tears over that. Guess what, that crap happens every day too!
Hik: I... actually think you are the only person who understands your own motivation here. I personally disagree, but I absolutely respect your opinion, because you make a valid point, and actually believe that point.

IMHO, these kind of events aren't typical, worldwide. Yes, people die. What is the issue is not the fact that people died, although that is always a tragedy in itself, but more in the nature of their death, and the individual (or possible partnership, in the case of the Connecticut instance) that caused it. Using the American case as the example (since I haven't actually caught up on the Chinese one to date), the issue isn't that a few dozen people died, but that a large group of children died in an outright unpleasant fashion, probably the most unpleasant fashion imaginable. Moreover, this was caused by one (possibly two) people. Those things are horrific, and not the kind of thing that happen every day. Specifically, this was the largest culling of elementary school children ever recorded, if memory serves. If you want to claim that's something that happens every day, I am more than happy to see the statistics on it. The issue is not strictly speaking the number of people that died, but the events surrounding it.
Of course, I'm more than happy to discuss this fact. I'll keep an eye on this topic, or you're welcome to message me anywhere else, if you wanna argue about it more fluently. =3

[Capxeno]

While, I am most upset and up to date on what is going on in Syria. The elementary shooting, I've been trying to be a bit more detached from, because the psychological dynamics of the young man who committed the actions and his mother are not fully revealed. If anything, timing is why this can be considered tragic. While, yes this view require ignorance of the greater going ons in the world. An entire class of kindergartners died. One week before Christmas. Their parents probably already bought their gifts and wrapped them.

How many of you had a best friend in kindergarten from another class? I know I did. Now imagine if an entire class of someone FIRST best friend was just flat out murdered. From a developmental stand point, this will create some truly traumatized kids in a section of the world where we try to hide our broken.

Speaking of broken, those parents I told you about. How many of them have other kids, and how function of parents can they really be right now, and down the line?

In the end, I care about all the hell that goes on in the world, but practically speaking, right now there is nothing I can do. So for me, I'll wait until there is something real I can do before I'll emotionally attach myself to the situation.

[Ghost]

Swift: Just... read what I said to Zak. Pretty much the same applies. As I recall, when you had your cat taken away, you were in tears over that. Guess what, that crap happens every day too!

You butthole, that's personal. I'm not talking about personal things, now am I?

[Gaserlake]

IMHO, these kind of events aren't typical, worldwide. Yes, people die. What is the issue is not the fact that people died, although that is always a tragedy in itself, but more in the nature of their death, and the individual (or possible partnership, in the case of the Connecticut instance) that caused it. Using the American case as the example (since I haven't actually caught up on the Chinese one to date), the issue isn't that a few dozen people died, but that a large group of children died in an outright unpleasant fashion, probably the most unpleasant fashion imaginable. Moreover, this was caused by one (possibly two) people. Those things are horrific, and not the kind of thing that happen every day. Specifically, this was the largest culling of elementary school children ever recorded, if memory serves. If you want to claim that's something that happens every day, I am more than happy to see the statistics on it. The issue is not strictly speaking the number of people that died, but the events surrounding it.
Of course, I'm more than happy to discuss this fact. I'll keep an eye on this topic, or you're welcome to message me anywhere else, if you wanna argue about it more fluently. =3

Yes, it is true, that people should not only look at people dying, but how people are dying. However, there is a flaw in your logic. I wasn't there, so I wouldn't know how long the children had to suffer until they die, but due to the fact that that most, if not all, children got shot more than once, and there was a semi-automatic rifle found in the school, I would conclude that the children did not have to suffer for long. Now, there are starving children out there in the world, who had to endure a much more painful death. How? They would have to wait for around a week to three weeks until they become relieved by death. Yes, it is a sad thing that the children in Connecticut died, but at least they didn't have to go through the torture the starving kids are enduring.

[Beware Ye Who Enter Here]

I never said these things weren't important, they are. Yes, I've said several things about my love life, Dylan, yes, I do get a bit dramatic, but thats not nearly as important as someone's life. What happened is important, but my issue is that *so is all the other stuff that happens*. Its all bad news, it all sucks, its all tragic. I'm not saying its insignificant, I just wish people would wise up and look around at the world a bit.

[Gaserlake]

So what Khan said was my point, as well, Dylan. It is terrible that the children got murdered, but it's even more terrible of the true reality that the children aren't the only ones dying in the world.

[Dylan]

The issue here isn't that you consider the reactions overblown, it is simply that it doesn't directly affect you that causes you to not care. Also, accusing other people of over-reacting? Possibly a little hypocritical.

Congratulations. You managed to repeat exactly what I said.

[Beware Ye Who Enter Here]

We're accusing people of overreacting, because all of this does matter. It does. The fact is that so does everything else that's happened.

And, I probably shouldn't have posted this. I didn't want to make an inflammatory thread, I just wanted to express my opinion on current events. V_V

[Dylan]

Then your reaction to this should be of a similar level to your reaction to this. The simple fact of the matter is, you are more apathetic to this than issues that directly affect yourself, despite the fact that your own issues have less severity. You are claiming that people are over-reacting, but that isn't true at all, which was actually the latter half of my post, which everyone has happily ignored, because I brought up their own personal problems, which according to the comparative level of reaction, you all consider to be a worse offence than the issue in Connecticut.
The point I'm getting at is, you are welcome to claim that people are over-reacting about this issue. But doing so, when your reaction to other less severe issues is equal or greater, is very hypocritical. Hence where I picked people out, and why I didn't attack Hikaru for the same thing. Because she completely acknowledged her own boundaries on the subject.
Man, it almost feels like I am repeating the same thing over and over again because people don't read. Specifically to people who complain that I always do that to people, and claim that it isn't necessary.

Also, I totally forgot to mention last post, but, Cap totally has me beat on this one. I have to agree with his post.

[Beware Ye Who Enter Here]

But Im saying they're not overreacting! In fact, people are under reacting.

[K2]

I find myself agreeing with Cap, Dylan, and Hitoper on this one. I recognise of course how horrific this is and wish I were more emotionally attached and felt more sympathy for those closely involved but I can't bring myself to tears of even to deep emotion on this one. I recognise it as a fact that this is, by my standards, a terrible tragedy, but emotionally I find myself strangely detached to a certain degree, not entirely as I feel lingering bits of sadness over this.

But yes, I am reminded that in Syria and even here, people are dying, kids included, in much more horrific means and en masse. That does not take away the gravity of this situation, but it does show that we should feel more emotion for the starving and the kids in Syria. I think part of the reason we do not feel as strong about those kids is because they are faceless to us, nameless to us. The tragedy with 9/11 -- we took great point to remember the names of the fallen. Same with this tragedy.

That said, I wouldn't say people are overreacting, just that they're underreacting to events in Syria and the like.