General question for you people/semi-rantaboutsomethingscientific

[Ghost]

As far as I know, the requests approved and put up are all "original". Okay so? Virtually none I have ever browsed through have any disease or special condition.

Okay, so?

Well, I have two characters out of of the eleventy billion requested total that are not "healthy". As far as anyone knows(K2323 confirms this), I'm the first one to request conjoined twins. I don't know about you guys, but there is something wrong with that image. Out of all your characters, do any have deformalities or diseases? Not simple illnesses like a cold and hay fever. I mean DISEASES. Like AIDS/HIV, HPV, Cancer, Hep A/B/C.... Do any of your characters or Species/races have those? Yes? No? I barely see health "flaws" listed on any request for something "biologically" related unless it's something like "they're immune to ALL diseases". Now the only carbon-based group that IS immune is Dylan's latest. He found loopholes and used simple science to get it approved(mind you these are "cyborgs" to an extent).

Okay and yes, my Helixes are technically diseased creatures that spread it through "infection". But I say "two unhealthy" beings because Conjoined twins are super rare for anything(helixes too.) and a "regular" Helix is born "as they are" which is always deformed. If you really want technical numbers on my unhealthy characters, it's 5.

Arachnid's deformity involves his extra four limbs.
REDACTED's deformity is the extra jaw under the first one.
Cardonis's deformity in her updated reference sheet will be slight cardiac deformation and artery/muscular inflations around it.
Janus/Hydra/Gemini are conjoined twins. Two infections, two heads, two nasty little tykes. Nuff said.
Yuki is not a helix, but as mentioned recently she does have a marrow cancer called Chronic Leukemia.

As far as I know, these are the only ones out here on the forum who are not perfectly healthy and still "manage on the site(regardless if there are IC posts or not)

I know you guys have this normal view of "request a character, get it approved, play like it's a normal person in so-so's species/race". But wouldn't adding some problems to a character or two make things a tad bit interesting?

I think it'd be interesting to see what species-specific diseases you guys COULD come up with. Now, I know about Gaser's virus. This doesn't exactly count for my standards. It's origins is a blank spot. I suggested it had a technological origin, being lab created and tested on organic and inorganic things. Though, the whole "infects magic" is bullshit unless you can somehow make it hit a mental or physical point in the organic body that blocks it. I still don't like the idea that it infects virtually "everything" because it does sound so overpowered if you think about it.

If you have any diseased characters, or plan to "infect" some previously requested or new ones, I'd love to hear about them. :I

Seriously though, perfect health is so mainstream.

[Admiral Regis Hermitage]

Well, Hermitage has multiple psychological problems that are shown in some detail. :/

[Ghost]

Hikaru listed a shitload of mental disorders her main character had before Insana "substituted" them.

Iknowiwaskindaoutofitandpassedoutshortlyafterthispostbut I did mean a Physical condition, not a mental one.

[Embodiment of Cringe]

Not really a disease, but if a Novierian uses magic, they shorten their lifespan because they'd be using up bits of their soul, and it would never replenish like other races do.

Thaaaat's all I got.



But anyways, the reason people make them perfectly healthy or 'immune to all disease,' is because it's kind of a cheap way to go out. Say I'm facing a member named Bob, and his character named Joe. Suppose Joe has a sickness or disease of some sort. I can either A. Put a bajillion hours into thinking how to fight and defeat Joe, or B. infect him with some 'ultimate sickness' dart or bomb that can't be cured and infects everyone on the planet and their mother and make his illness worse, and let that kill him off. (That's happened at least once, somewhere on the board. Funny to say, they survived said sickness, I believe.)
One might feel kinda chumped if they were Bob. While we can all applaud Bob for being different and making a diseased character, he failed to consider the current metagame of SP.


Though, on another note, for characters that are strictly for RPing and messing about rather than killing everything with a vengeance, I do see your point, so since I hardly ever fight or participate in the metagame/the whole conquering deal, I just might consider it for another character if I so choose to make another one.

[UnStellar]

SP is a story, yes, but that's secondarily. It is primarily a nation builder RP. Show weakness, you die. (Remember Acanthros!) Besides, we each have ways of putting conflict in characters lives. Disease is a good one, but there are many other ways.

Also, because screw your science. We'll keep our fiction.

We put the shun back in science fiction. XD

But you do raise an interesting point swift.

[K2]

Bullshit, ma'am. Sage Virus. 'Nuff said.

[@Pokemon Master Red]

Valshiek Vampirism is spread by a (technically magic)virus. And if you try saying having a literal dependency on the blood of others and being burned by the light of the sun is 'healthy'. . .

But yeah, Im not saying that 'unhealthy' characters are bad ones, its just...That doesn't always fit the character concept somebody's going for. You wanna make sure that any medical condition the character has is relevant to the concept, which isn't always possible. Elsewise its just gonna feel tacked on and make it not fun to play the character.

[Beware Ye Who Enter Here]

Agreed with Unstellar in that if you show weakness you die. Another fact is, just because we don't have characters who are conjoined twins doesn't mean we don't have them in our empires.

Another thing is that because our empires are so very advanced, they've probably cured a good number of diseases. I mean, look at civilization now. In most first world countries, diseases that were prevalent and deadly are usually of no issue because they've been wiped out. Now flash forward a couple hundred years of multiplicative technological evolution and you're looking at genetic defects being destroyed before birth, you're looking at curing cancer, etc. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND thats not counting that fact that most factions have magic, which is probably something really good at getting rid of diseases.

[Ghost]

Another thing is that because our empires are so very advanced, they've probably cured a good number of diseases. I mean, look at civilization now. In most first world countries, diseases that were prevalent and deadly are usually of no issue because they've been wiped out. Now flash forward a couple hundred years of multiplicative technological evolution and you're looking at genetic defects being destroyed before birth, you're looking at curing cancer, etc. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND thats not counting that fact that most factions have magic, which is probably something really good at getting rid of diseases.

[insert rambling here. Guys, I still have a cold and took some medication so I'm out of it still. Also, nosebleed!]

Yeah, sure we cured many diseases including Polio and the Black Plague. But there should still be a good number of illnesses out there, regardless of if you have magic. I notice a lot of "common" magics are basics like creating light or "healing". But let's face it. We have all these "mages" and sages and whatnot who almost ALWAYS HEALS WOUNDS. I mean, okay fine it's a minor thing like a paper cut or a scratch. But I mean, you notice how common it is?

Oh noes! So-so was cut on the arm because Derp's magic missile fragments scratched him and missed becoming a fatal blow by a hair! So-so heals himself with majick!

....I kinda find it boring. You guys tend to see "illness as a weakness". Sure. It might be. It can be a weakness for YOU the player, and maybe not the opponent. gaser's virus or my Helixes "infections" may not hurt me or him. Hell, we have those there for a cause of our own. You may not like it because "Oh noes! Bobbis now weak as fuck and is eating himself with spontaneously growing mouths everywhere! Kill him!" Boom. He's dead. Again, laaaame.

Sure, you can use "magic" to "cure" a disease. But what happens during an event that makes you "mortal"? You must have a backup for that. And I'm sure you're all going to say something along the lines of "pillz here!" But you do realise, almost all medication originated from x plant. And this plant may not exist on your planet. Like how we get medication? We trade varied ingredients internationally. If we didn't, some areas are screwed or may just luck out.

On an intergalactic scale, you have an infinite amount of viruses and plagues and an infinite amount of medication to create, test, and treat. The problem is, if you have an epidemic and no cure(magic doesn't count), where are you going to get a remedy? Any known planets may not have it. You venture further into space to find more planets.

And if you're superstituos like the Chinese, make Tiger Bone Wine(illegal lol) or whatever that beverage is that smells and tastes terrible and has a snake in the contianer. (Yes those are actual medicines in China. Compared to that, I'd take ginseng anyday. Watch Current's episode about Tiger Bone Wine if you want.)

Why not make it a plot twist? Oh, maybe that was done before. So? Ignoring the so-called virus in the Outerverse, what if one of the greatest/most powerful users were in an epidemic? Like... The Zarethian or whatever you call them. What about the Aralangs? The Locar? Some major players or even what we called "Embodiments"? For the hell of it, K2 can contract FULL BLOWN AIDS and end up spreading that into his lovers(take that K2 )

I should prolly just go and pass out now because this post is kinda everywhere. Bluh. Fuck you cold, I don't even know how I caught you in the first place. Nuzlocke-I'mma release you when I've recovered!

This is kinda why I wanted a disease embodiment, at the same time playing a plague may be fun on my end, but there won't be much going on with the character itself.

[Beware Ye Who Enter Here]

When you're a hyper advanced civilization that can travel between two galaxies in a matter of hours or even days (some in nearly an instant)  working with most diseases shouldn't be an issue. Besides, not all diseases would be transferable between two species like the Zarethians and Humans. As well, with magic you can duplicate a medicine, so there would be simply enormous reserves held by most magical empires if they can't heal it with magic. As well, being conjoined twins, being born without an arm, etc, all those things can be solved by the hyper advanced tech or by magic. Regrowing limbs, near identical replacement augmentics, grafts, etc.

[Ghost]

When you're a hyper advanced civilization that can travel between two galaxies in a matter of hours or even days (some in nearly an instant)  working with most diseases shouldn't be an issue. Besides, not all diseases would be transferable between two species like the Zarethians and Humans. As well, with magic you can duplicate a medicine, so there would be simply enormous reserves held by most magical empires if they can't heal it with magic. As well, being conjoined twins, being born without an arm, etc, all those things can be solved by the hyper advanced tech or by magic. Regrowing limbs, near identical replacement augmentics, grafts, etc.

Again, that's no fun and you know it, Zak. Even hyper advanced civilizations won't be able to cure EVERYTHING and it'll be a matter of time before the health bubble explodes and they fall under some new epidemic.

My conjoined twin cannot be "cured" in any way, shape or form unless you kill it. Trying to cure "anything" with a helix generally fails anyway. You can try magic, but you might speed up the process in which it creates premature radiation. You can try medication and you might cure it. But there's also a chance of poisoning it and killing it. The only "great" way to do it is to use a bottleneck theory with the ones immune to the illness. But that's risky too because they fucking hate each other

In other cases, conjoined twins are actually Living Parasitic Twins. They NEED to be together or else they die(depending on severity). Parasitic twins who are not fully formed can be seperated easily in comparison. But I think we all knew that.

The only way ANY civilization can cure things like a missing arm or a conjoined twin is really selective breeding. You choose a certain sperm with a certain gene. If it's missing a homeobox gene, then you won't use it. You won't use one with extras unless you were planning to experiment with "super human/speciesnamehere" abilities.

Another thing with selective breeding that the healthier sperm(more active) would be used with all the genes needed.

Buuuut again, that's not fun and you also have a chance of the mother's egg being screwed up as well. Most people look at the sperm because they're cells that swim around and appear more active than an egg.

[Beware Ye Who Enter Here]

It may not be fun, but it certainly fits the characterization of civilizations. I mean, if you have the power to travel between galaxies in an extraordinarily small amount of time, why leave your citizens at risk for these detrimental conditions? As well, genetic therapy may not be able to cure the more advanced conditions NOW, but considering the rate of improvement that we are undergoing, its safe to assume in a civilization like the Zarethians that they will have found a way to stop these things from happening. And there actually ARE rare diseases in some empires, one NPC of mine is mute because of a birth defect. It just so happens that these things are rare and maybe we don't really care to have our characters afflicted by things along the lines of genetic mutations.

As well, maybe people don't find it fun to have their characters afflicted by these things. YOU might, perhaps, but I would prefer to think that my hyperadvanced magical empire has all but rooted out most genetic defects.

[Nisorin]

Just because I think it could be more interesting, I think I will side with Swift.


The entire reason why parasitic/predatory/detrimental organisms still survive is because they evolve with their hosts/prey/victims. It's a constant war of attrition between the host and parasite. When the host finds a new way to prevent the parasite from doing it's thing, the parasite needs to find a way around it or die out. Those that do survive to continue on another few generations. That's why we get antibiotic-resistant bacteria. While all the arguments for why there are so few diseases and defects are valid, there is also the fact that bacteria/viruses/predators will always find ways to evolve past the safeguards placed against them, or die out. It is the cyclic nature of their evolution. They evolve against our efforts to stamp them out, stagnate for a bit while they reap the benefits of their victory, then we find new ways to deal with them and it starts over again.

[Ghost]

Just throwing out some examples on this post/More rambling yay!

IF you ever watch the news or read the paper or even just pay attention to science/Medical sites, there are multiple articles stored about certain illnesses changing.

It's why we get vaccines every year. The flu is one of the more obvious ones to point out. It changes at a rapid pace. So much so, the formula for the flu injected into you is a BRAND NEW mixture, not the same from last year. There is no cure for influenza, we just have vaccines that can fight the bitch

As for other "incurables" right now such as AIDS and Cancers of varied types:

Cancer patients went through KEMO therapy, but a select few are trying out Radiation/Radioactive therapy. This isn't exactly "new" in the science world anymore(though it was announced in mid/late 2012). It seems "odd", because some cancers are created from radiation entering the body(mmostly being stomach, skin or blood cancer). There are other claims for possible "cures" in cancer, but none are truly confirmed to cure everyone.

As for HIV/AIDS, we should all know it's dangerous, yeh? Little tyke goes into your system, hops into Helper-T cells without detection because of its protein coat. Exchanged DNA and RNA codes and killed the Helper T cell after it leaves to continue to replicate and eventually shuts down your system.  (Helper T cells are like the commanders of your immune system. They release a signal to all other immunity cells to attack x virus). So yeah. and if you have Full blown AIDS for like 15 years, you're fucked for catching a cold or even hayfever. So what could stop it? Right now,we have two things that kill AIDS/HIV. Classic Oxygen, as HIV/AIDS is fragile in air and cannot stay airborne for long. And we might have a possible cure for it, as seen here on SourceFed.

but that's only two of like, what, infinite incurables?
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Going back to diseases relating to "treatment" of the Flu:

Sure, of x illness you can treat it. It changes, k use science and treat it again. No big. UNTIL you fuck up and have a pandemic/ an epidemic(depends on scale of infected) and start flipping tables because the illness was two steps ahead of you for once. They aren't predictable. They seem like it, but they aren't.

BUT WHAT ABOUT DA MAJICKS!?

Well, I kinda gave a FANTASTIC example earlier when relating with my helixes. Even if it was healing magic, it might not mix well with whatever illness is going around. And when that happens, you better have a plan B, C, D, E and F. Because some "possible" cures may not fit that shoe.

I'll just use my helixes again as an example. Okay, so they're a virus(technically they are lolol). So, let's just say one is the flu. You treat it and you'll have a select number of outcomes:

-Failure
--It's immune mofos.
-Success
--For now...
-Mixed results?
--The illness may be "beaten", but will leave side affects.
--The illness will mutate with the treatment, causing immunity all the way while turning into a new virus
--The illness will transmute the supposed treatment into something that will harm your body more so than help it.
--etc.

Because this is a sci-fi/fantasy roleplay, the mixed results answers can happen. Magic might mutate it, kill it, or even just spread it into the user who cast the spell in the first place.

[UnStellar]

No. Because.... Magic!

[Ghost]

No. Because.... Magic!

that's so boring and you know it. :I

Also: NYAN CAXX

[Beware Ye Who Enter Here]

It may be boring, but its the truth. As we're on the topic of "fun" why don't we look at it this way, if the logic of HYPER ADVANCED MAGICAL EMPIRES doesn't get the point across for you.

If, for example, the Zarethians have some strain of a disease similar to influenza, its just that. Its not some major plot point for us to revolve around. It's extraordinarily common, therefore it would be akin to RPing your character as they get into an everyday, nonplot-caused car crash or as they do their job at the average day at work with nothing overly important happening. Its just not important or interesting enough for most people to justify putting time and effort into that scenario.  I mean, really, who is going to RP with you and what would you do? Go to a local pharmacy and the other person RPs as the guy behind the counter? Well, if that's your idea of fun, go right ahead but I'm not going to bother.

As for the logic of it, each race probably does have all these different diseases that they can't cure. However, its very probable that the disease is simply a natural disease and will be cured by sufficient SCIENCE! or magic. They're "normal" diseases. I don't know about your Helixes very much but I'mma go ahead and guess that they're a special case. 


I, personally, don't quite care to map out every aspect of the sociological, psychological and physical aspects of my characters/races and since I find diseases rather unimportant... well, meh, why would I put time into it?

As well, I don't take pleasure in inflicting other people with horrible, horrible diseases, sorry.

[Ghost]

"Hyper advanced" or not, it doesn't truly mean you can cure everything. Again, with magic you can't cure every damn disease. That feels rather OP to me. How so? Because curing EVERYTHING with magic means you'd just cure gaser's "virus" in a snap(excluding its attacks toward magic).

Hyper advanced groups aren't really different from modern groups. Just a bunch of new treatments, new cures, new illnesses. I don't care how advanced you are in magic or tech, but unless your "mages"/"sages"/magic users have a medical proffession, you're magic will most likely not cure as much as an MD would.

I'm not saying for you to roleplay every last detail out. I'm not saying you should post "OH NOES! I HAS COLD! I walk to pharmacy and get pillz. I r healthy again!!!1!!11!!one"

That's not what I was getting at. And it may not be "prefferable" to you to get anyone/your empire/characters/npcs/etcetera, but it COULD happen by someone else. It's like the eclipse. When you just quit when tech died because it was brushing against your fur in the wrong direction. Just because it's against your tastes does NOT mean you can just go "lol I quit because this is against me and will kill x amount of my empire kbai c:". That's one of the dumbest things to do. Ever.

I find it similar to the Eclipse event:

I know you're not the only one who left until it was over. Several other members left for that reason. But that's a sissy ass move. Instead of RUNNING AWAY from something you disagree to, MUSCLE THROUGH IT. Magic didn't really suit me when it died out in the eclipse, since most of my characters are magic users. But even though I didn't post anything Ic, I had backup plans for them. For tech, sure. Your fleets are fucked. But you do realise oxygen doesn't really "fly out of a ship" if there is no damage. You still have a food supply. You should still have beverages. You can still have first aid for simple treatments. Depending on how long the eclipse is, your fleet might have had made it. I mean, even if the engines just cut out, you're still moving in space. There's virtually no friction, only gravitational pulls. If you're "nowhere" near a star system, you just keep moving at x speed in one direction until you do. If you're near a star system and/or planet, they will pull you into an orbit and if you're close enough, you can just crash into he planet. Yes, that would cost lives, BUT some might still survive and live on said planet. You can find ways to go through harsh times. And that lady gents, is a way to muscle through something. Want more realistic references? Remember the Great Depression, the Holocaust, WWI/WWII, the Seven years war, the Black Plague, etc. Sure, people ran, but others fought back to win.

[Beware Ye Who Enter Here]

Swift, my dear lady, magic is rewriting the reality itself. Of course its overpowered. And, Swift, magic can do virtually anything. Orga once made one of Hawk's ships explode because he opened a portal that produced infinite rabbits. Magic can do pretty much anything we want it to.

As well, the Eclipse event has nothing to do with the discussion at hand which is, if I remember correctly, about diseases so please stick to the topic at hand. The fact of the matter is that people's characters may get sick, but if they do, it happens in the time between topics, meaning people don't care about it enough to go through the effort of writing it. That was what you were talking about, everyday diseases. However, you seem to be referring to things that are epidemic level or artificially constructed and introduced into the environment, which is a completely different matter entirely.

I'm not going to post again, because its entirely pointless arguing this to you. You don't seem to understand the fact that, A: SP is a story driven site and thus far diseases have not driven overly much of the story ergo we don't post about them. B: SP is completely and irrefutably a broken system, with over powered stuff being the norm and mages who can and will RAPE PLANETS TO DEATH being quite common. We have ships the size of planets, we have a fleet of vampires who can suck the blood supply off an entire planet in no time, we have guns that rip holes in the dimensions, we have genetically engineered psychic space locusts and we have fucking Parody Prime.

- Good day
Zak

[UnStellar]

we have fucking Parody Prime.

This. yes.

[Ghost]

Swift, my dear lady, magic is rewriting the reality itself. Of course its overpowered. And, Swift, magic can do virtually anything. Orga once made one of Hawk's ships explode because he opened a portal that produced infinite rabbits. Magic can do pretty much anything we want it to.

While magic bends reality, I still view it as a concentrated form of it. Just simply putting it as magic makes everything we have here "op". Which is pretty much the case. If you were a fire mage and then suddenly made waterfalls and earthquakes, that would seem to make him just a mage and not a fire mage. Putting "fire" in front means it's concentrated into fire magic and fire alone. For the "race"[I loathe that word] requests, when people announce magic, or even character requests, they seem to automatically categorize themselves. Time-magic, blood magic, hammerspace summons, etc are categorized. Why you people think it's okay to say "Yeah, they use fire magic, but they can heal and do this one other trick not really relating to fire but used to block magic missiles" is kinda.... wrong.

I was relating to the Eclipse event because you reacted in a parallel way to this idea and the Eclipse. You flipped out like x other members because you didn't like the idea.

A: SP is a story driven site and thus far diseases have not driven overly much of the story ergo we don't post about them.

Doesn't mean we can't start an epidemic, now does it?

B: SP is completely and irrefutably a broken system, with over powered stuff being the norm and mages who can and will RAPE PLANETS TO DEATH being quite common.

It's always broken. It's kinda why I hate the site. I've said why I'm still on it like a million times. And yet even that reason just doesn't seem to work with how the site's going. I don't care how advanced your civilizations are, people, but having OP tech/magic in your characters and empires[especially these] should not be as common as it is. If it's so common, then this wouldn't really count as OP anymore, but normal(until someone pulls a new trick out of their ass and all of a sudden, that's the now Overpowered thing).

You people aren't really getting what I was going for. I don't really remember what the main ideal was anymore[yay meds]. Just forget it. You people just won't absorb an idea that has science is just different from what you're used to. The eclipse: You all left because it brushed against you the wrong way. An Epidemic as an idea: Nope. We don't want weakness because "my empire's so big and I don't want it turned into rubble because I worked so hard!!!11!1one-hundred eleven." This was a semi-rant and an idea. You guys never tried an epidemic and Zak's clearly shown me that you people won't even want to try it to see how it goes.

[@Pokemon Master Red]

Most species/races have concentrated magic, yes, but not all of them. Zak's race, for instance, does not have specialized magic(although he has admitted that its relatively weaksauce), so he can do a lot with it. Im sure the doctors of his Zarethian Empire are well versed in both healing and curative magic, but even if thats their specialty they can still probably cook food without a appliance if they had to(with magic, that is). I personally categorize most of my magic(hell, all Elementals are capable of one variety of magic alone and thats it), but if someone doesn't want to...Well...Thats for them to make.

And sure, if you wanna start a epidemic go right on ahead. If you want, start one on other peoples planets, if you can get past any defenses they may have. You're free to make your own plague for whatever reason you want to. As for why we haven't done so already...Well...We just haven't wanted to. This isn't a matter of 'plagues are lame', its a matter of 'I have other plots I want to do with my stuff'. Sure, we COULD do a plague if we wanted...We just kinda dont.

As far as the event went, actually, we WERE down for the Eclipse. That was the Antimagic Wave. What we all bailed from was all technology being locked while magic was already locked down. A lot of us didn't have any options, or at least any we personally found fun. Yeah we COULD RP our nations going through a technological and magical crisis...But once the initial post is over...Well shit, now what? We cant go to another planet(and I dont care how much you talk about 'steam power', that just isn't sufficient to exit a planet's gravity nor enough to get to another planet, let alone solar system, let alone galaxy for that matter within one's lifetime, it wasn't even electricity that was the problem it was computerized electronics that were locked, without which it would take several hundred years in order to find a alternative to a computer for the sheer precision it takes to make a rocket...assjksadg), so barring anyone with stuff in the Zarethian Empire, nobody has anyone else to RP their planet with. So...No, we didn't like the idea. Not because it was a bad event...Just because it came at a time that locked us out of doing basically anything other than a single post with most of our factions.

As far as the site being broken...Well...Yeah, it is. Its something that we've tried and failed to properly fix. So...You're right on that point. No arguments there.

Final thoughts...AntiTech part of the Eclipse, we had reasons it brushed us the wrong way. Epidemic as a idea...I freely admit it could work. But we just have other plotlines going on. Hell besides those most of us control our own empires without other people as a part of them. The only faction that a all-out epidemic, unless I go around spreading Vampirism, would have anyone at all care would be the Zarethian Empire. You're saying that nobody will do it...Well...Why dont you start one, then?

[Ghost]

We cant go to another planet(and I dont care how much you talk about 'steam power', that just isn't sufficient to exit a planet's gravity nor enough to get to another planet, let alone solar system, let alone galaxy for that matter within one's lifetime, it wasn't even electricity that was the problem it was computerized electronics that were locked, without which it would take several hundred years in order to find a alternative to a computer for the sheer precision it takes to make a rocket...assjksadg), so barring anyone with stuff in the Zarethian Empire, nobody has anyone else to RP their planet with. So...No, we didn't like the idea. Not because it was a bad event...Just because it came at a time that locked us out of doing basically anything other than a single post with most of our factions.

I feel like I should bring this up again for you red: Even if your engines stop working, you're still going to move in a direction in space and only one direction unless you hit another object of x-size and then you'll move to another direction. You're not moving at a preferable speed, no. But you are still moving. Nothing is completely still in outer space

And I'd start one, but that means I'd have to create one for a specific group,maybe have permission from another user(s) to attack their species with it, and make it evolve to attack other groups. But first, I need to help blade work on his Vionix disease. After that, I'll plot something. I find it highly anticlimatic to attack the Zarethians at the start. I want to produce suspense with it. And I'll be working on this little epidemic, waiting and will start it somewhere just to cause some chaos.

[@Pokemon Master Red]

Whoo. Joy. You move in outer space. Hooray for decades worth of wait if they actually reach the world they were traveling to(after which they'll be decrepit old people, which nothing against the elderly but it really fucks up any plots you had for your characters), and thats assuming they dont run out of food or breathable air(yes, they have SOME, but not enough to last for more than maybe a month for food, or a week for air without Life Support, tops) or dont veer wildly off course(in which case they'll probably crash on some random rock with no atmosphere), or orbiting the planet they're already around in they weren't traveling anywhere. Again. In either case, you get one post on your own worlds, and then one more if you decide to have them crash on a random planet instead of waiting several decades in dead space maybe an extra post in the Other forum of them landing on a unmarked planet that, in all likelyhood, does not have any atmosphere in it for the ships that were already en route! Dead characters, joy! Yeah, I think I'll take a pass on that event, thanks.
That...Was a lot more vitriolic than I meant, but I cant find any way to change it and still get across the message Im intending. I apologize in advance if that sounds like Im insulting you, Im really not, just...Blagh.

And as for the epidemic...Well...There ya go then. Best of luck to you, just remember that we as members will be doing all we can to fight it. Not because 'Blagh Epidemic no fun', but...well...No sane Empire would just outright allow a dangerous pathogen unchecked, eh?

[Ghost]

Whoo. Joy. You move in outer space. Hooray for decades worth of wait if they actually reach the world they were traveling to(after which they'll be decrepit old people, which nothing against the elderly but it really fucks up any plots you had for your characters), and thats assuming they dont run out of food or breathable air(yes, they have SOME, but not enough to last for more than maybe a month for food, or a week for air without Life Support, tops) or dont veer wildly off course(in which case they'll probably crash on some random rock with no atmosphere), or orbiting the planet they're already around in they weren't traveling anywhere. Again. In either case, you get one post on your own worlds, and then one more if you decide to have them crash on a random planet instead of waiting several decades in dead space maybe an extra post in the Other forum of them landing on a unmarked planet that, in all likelyhood, does not have any atmosphere in it for the ships that were already en route! Dead characters, joy! Yeah, I think I'll take a pass on that event, thanks.
That...Was a lot more vitriolic than I meant, but I cant find any way to change it and still get across the message Im intending. I apologize in advance if that sounds like Im insulting you, Im really not, just...Blagh.

And as for the epidemic...Well...There ya go then. Best of luck to you, just remember that we as members will be doing all we can to fight it. Not because 'Blagh Epidemic no fun', but...well...No sane Empire would just outright allow a dangerous pathogen unchecked, eh?

The first paragraph of your post was kinda rephrasing something I said earlier. Seriously. lol

And well, I'll make sure the epidemic is a bitch to fight. But remember, all epidemics start small. [Technically, on a microscopic level]. But I kinda of want to make a  parasitic attack at the same time.

Not because 'Blagh Epidemic no fun'...

It is partially that reason. Zak's disagreeing because, like in the eclipse, he's just trying to avoid anything happen to his empire. Oh well. One's empire can't stay up for too long. They all crumble at some point.