Creation of Perfect/Embodiments Idea by Orph

[Queen Bright]

This is Orph's idea, I'm just posting it for him since he's on his phone when explaining it. Anything anyone is confused on, disagrees to, or needs to be detailed, will be better explained by Orph later when he can.

[6:19:38 PM] Dakota White: Not all. More along the lines of the base ones. I like to call them the Foundation Embodiments. Like Time/Space/Heat/Cold ya know. Forces of reality ones.
I hate calling them the perfect. So I'll call em the first.
I gotta talk more about their creation with K2. But they existed first. And at the time of their awakening reality was in disarray. Things existed. But harmony did not exist. Space warped time and life would bloom for no reason only to be violently extinguished by death. The first had the one thing the rest of reality did not.
[6:29:35 PM] Dakota White: Sentience, a conscious, a mind, a spirit. And with this they bound not a whole spirit or mind but just a spark. Just enough for to cause an never ceasing cycle. That spark dragging the will of that aspect into full spirit. Either directed or not.
[6:31:57 PM] Dakota White: Now.
That point in reality was primal chaos. Something anarchy craved. Siding with pled would of ended all life. Leaving no spirit for the spark to attach to. Creating another age of primal chaos.
[6:35:47 PM] Dakota White: The first incarnations of these forces were actually volunteers. The process of raw force attaching to their spirit obliterated anything attached to it. Memories and what not. Essentially recycling them like the gig. But in one point in space. The spark attached and the spirit did what it naturally does.
[6:39:13 PM] Dakota White: Volunteers were babies to help the forces get used to life. Eventually they reached an age and became full embodiments. Aka living force. Not avatars like second gen or later.
[6:39:40 PM] Dakota White: Lol "volunteers"
[6:40:38 PM] Dakota White: I mean shit. Throwing something that literally isn't aware alive or even physical and making it such would be an amazing strain.
[6:41:44 PM] Dakota White: It shouldn't just be a oh suddenly were are alive and grown and we have personalities!
[6:44:59 PM] Dakota White: It's just a suggestion. Since pre perfect and during is empty
[6:47:57 PM] Dakota White: See. Created by perfect. This would be post awakening of the foundation.
[6:50:53 PM] Dakota White: Being an embodiment is not a gift.
[6:51:37 PM] Dakota White: You can call it a curse..more like a job for forever or until you get permadeaded.
[7:54:57 PM] Dakota White: In a way. This makes the perfect the embodiments of spirits and sentience. Which makes that concept locked for a plot implanted reason. Same as why time travel doesn't work. Asura stops ya.
[7:57:39 PM] Dakota White: They were perfect spirits/psions so they had high control over both physical and astral realms.
[8:01:15 PM] Dakota White: BUT! This leaves to question. In the age of primal chaos where was order?
Nowhere.
At first Order did not exist. Because entropy and chaos is the true nature of the universe. Things die, fade, and eventually disperse. Order is a conceptual or artificial embodiment. Like Insanus. Just a way to categorize not a way to belittle.
[8:09:32 PM] Dakota White: Order was the first created force. Embodied by the creations of life! But the living were weak and death ever raging and vigilant. Time didn't exist but you could say it didn't happen quickly. Order grew in power with every living thing. And the scales were created. The second conceptual force slowly grew. Balance. Although truly fragile..yet powerful force. Eventually Order created something it would never truly outshine. For just a moment life and order had combined. Creating the perfect. With this the scales tipped in order's favor. Balance was destroyed. The golden age of the perfect.
[8:11:57 PM] Dakota White: Yet chaos is present always. Naturally after the first generation of the perfect..none were truly so. Its been downhill against chaos order slowly eroding. But balance grows when the two align.
[8:24:03 PM] Dakota White: This means first gen natural force embodiments were created by the perfect. And the perfect were created through the naturally created conceptual force of order of and the natural force of life chaotically interacting. Life created order, Order made Life stronger, Stronger life meant a stronger order. The resulting loop of force interaction created the perfect. Life imbued with pure order. A mind to tame the beast to phrase it. The perfect then instilled a system of seemingly endless reincarnated living binds upon the forces. To focus a powerful force left forgotten. Balance. These actions turned what was the primal nexus of swirling fuck and chaos into Existence. The GG still works too.
[8:28:01 PM] Dakota White: Meaning even though Anarchy is Entropy in Ordered form it still seeks to cause chaos. Rest of the embodiments were created to keep the balance. Conceptual or artificial embodiments were created through other means but in the end they are all children of life and order.
[8:50:17 PM] Dakota White: And a way to categorize embodiments. Both post first gen and first. Usually the most simple concepts were created by forces, these are usually powerful. But not even close to a natural embodiments power like time.
[8:51:48 PM] Dakota White: Like heartbreak is not a natural concept. Its created by the concepts of loss and love, which are children of order and life.
[8:52:31 PM] Dakota White: So it would be a tier three artificial conceptual embodiment.
[8:52:34 PM] Dakota White: Yeah.
[8:53:02 PM] Dakota White: She is a first gen first tier natural foundation force embodiment.
[8:54:18 PM] Dakota White: And Chaos was gonna be a ?gen natural foundation embodiment.

[Kota]

So lemme tl;dr it for ya.

Existence was originally in a state of primal chaos. What came before this; no idea. No records or living creatures exist. It was not a state of non-existence. Space, time, heat, cold, life, and death. It all existed.
But it was a giant chaos fueled shitstorm.
Life created a conceptual force, Order, and these two interacted creating the Perfect. Note that these forces are mindless. Controlled by nothing.
The Perfect/First was either one progenitor entity that later multiplied, or a small group at first. The Perfect was an anomaly created by Order and Life interacting with each other without intent. The unregulated interaction eventually produced an entity that was capable of challenging the Nexus and ending the chaos.

Perfect bound each "Foundation Embodiment" into the cycle, and morphed Existence into what it is today. Golden age of Perfect awesomeness.
Entropy being a natural foundation force erodes order, eventually corrupting the perfect species bloodline into becoming less powerful imperfect versions. Perfect Extinction. But as Order weakens, and Chaos grows.. Balances becomes is restored.

Creation and Destruction take charge in place of the Perfect leadership, and eventually they both schemed and led Existence into a war with itself to preserve balance. Destruction leading a rebellion against Creation. Making life split in two, and focus balance. Which all Embodiment's strive to preserve.
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Embodiment classification!

Natural forces - These are the Embodiment's that govern the natural aspects of reality. Heat, Cold, Death, and Life are examples of natural forces.

Conceptual forces - Embodiment's falling under this category are those that represent that metaphysical aspects of existence. Law, Tragedy, Insanity, and Treachery are examples. Although still amazingly powerful they could be considered a lesser form of Embodiment.
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Foundation/Root - These forces can be considered the firstborn and the most powerful of forces. They are the strongest due to Embodiment's stemming off of their personal tree are all their subordinates. An example would be Entropy being the root of Chaos, which is a symptom of entropy.
Support/Trunk - The mid-level of Embodiment powers. These forces support and carefully interact with the foundation forces. Gravity would be an example of a Natural Branch Force, and Emotion would be an example of a Conceptual Branch force.
Maintenance/Leaf - The daily and common forces and concepts of Existence. Everyday emotions, singular elements, radiation e.t.c. While not truly as powerful as a Support or a Foundation a Maintenance is still an Embodiment. Fire being a Natural Maintenance force, and Insanity would be a Conceptual Maintenance force.
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Tiers and Gens - I had an idea how to further describe a particular Embodiment's power, a tier can describe how far up a force is. Remember the higher the worse. An example provided below.

Homesickness is a tier five Conceptual Maintenance force. How did I get that?
Here!
Order and Life
          v
Perfect (Who could also be considered the Embodiments of Sentience/Spirit, although now extinct and without a cycle.)
          v
        Emotion
           v
      Sadness and Memory
            v
          Homesickness

Now, every force ABOVE is capable of manipulating anything below within the same tree. Emotion would not be able to control memories due to memory being the same tier as it, even though Memory is below Emotion; it's only an interacting force with Sadness to create Homesickness. It's not actually a lower tier.
Now; trees are pretty much the general category of what force is.. You wouldn't see Life being able to manipulate fire even though it is a Maintenance force and Life is a Foundation force.


Now a T1 Maintenance Conceptual Force would "theoretically" weaker than T5 Support Conceptual Force of a different tree. Because that force might be more powerful despite Tier rank. But individual forces have their individual trait. Who knows. You might see the Embodiment of Fire out-kill the Embodiment of Sunshine.
But let's see him keep a planet alive and feed billions of flora? They weren't created as God's or weapons. They are the intent and reason Existence works.

Generations - Entropy is a major factor even in the affairs of forces, and Embodiment are not untouchable. All first gen forces either conceptual or natural are living and breathing entities of pure existential energy. Representing the force in it's purest physical form. First generation forces are known to be more..difficult to deal with then latter generations, if they'll even deal with you at all. True Embodiments unblemished by a modern mortal experience. After a first generation is destroyed; their "spark" or bound to the force is released, and is either directed towards it's pre-chosen next Avatar or host entity, or chooses one from the available hosts in Existence. These latter generation Embodiments are not truly force given form. They are corporeal entities who have either been prepared by their predecessor, chosen by them, or pick by the whims of the spark. The spark binds with their spirit, and connects them with the force. They are more of a conduit, or a medium of the force instead of truly being the force itself, although they have just as much power over their force as a first gen would..never has a successor been properly trained for his duty.


Any questions? Points? Yellings?

[Admiral Regis Hermitage]

Reminds me of Insana's view of the Embodiment's hierarchy, albeit a little different. Insana sees the Embodiment Leadership as being held in 4 Embodiments. Creation, Destruction, Time and Space. From those, he sees the other embodiments that have branched off of the main 4 and depending on how far you were down the conceptual chart, would define your status in the general hierarchy.

An example in game is when Null and Void, the Embodiments of Emptiness, bowed as a sign of respect to Insana and Acknowledging the latter as a higher Embodiment.

[Kota]

Any suggestions?

[K2]

Interesting... I need to re-read and re-review this two or three more times...

[Kota]

Yo.

[Beware Ye Who Enter Here]

I really like this whole idea and concept, honestly. It gives some more sense to a lot of embodiement questions. Good job, Orph.

[K2]

I... still am trying to get a grasp on it but I think I like it as well. We'll discuss implementation during the next staff meeting.

[Kota]

I'd like to be present. It being my idea an all; even though I'm not staff we can all agree I'm an expert in post-OK lore.