Author Topic: Calto the Tormented (Read 10220 times)

Ragnar the Red · « **Reply #100 on:** February 11, 2012, 11:03:44 AM »

Hik, reread the past like three pages. Based on how your argument, he cant be dead. It's impossible.

Ragnar the Red · « **Reply #101 on:** February 11, 2012, 03:03:53 PM »

Quote from: Capxeno on February 11, 2012, 02:38:13 PM

Quote from: Sir Nik the I- Prince of Fishies (and Cows) on February 11, 2012, 01:59:51 PM
In this first one, she claimed he was dead. It was not true, and I explained it, and she gave me a warn point for it. Now she has completely forgotten all of it, and says he's dead.
http://shatteredplanes.com/forum/index.php?topic=4037.15

Point one, you are not getting attacked. She's doing her damn job.

Point Two, he's dead plus the warn. Three Day rule, me killing him succeeded, period. Don't like it? You had plenty of time to post, instead you complained.

I can see she's doing her job. She is also attacking me further than necessary. For the past three pages we've been arguing, ans what was the resulto of the argument? A templar can in fact jump timelines, so it is possible for me to bring in a Cadinae with any past whatsoever. I only need to request it. Because I did not request the Cadinae who fought off Sliph, I recieved a warn point.

Even if you succeeded in killing Cadiane in that topic, Cadiane still lives. He's lying on Tefilin, taken by Zarethians. I'm not sure where he is exactly (furrows brow at Zak), but he's alive no matter what. The warn was for me using an unrequested character, and the request is right here. I also had permission to continue using him in Harboring the Planet and Grandeur of an Upcoming Event (dead topic).

Quote from: Mortape123 on January 14, 2012, 05:27:35 PM

OOC: Okay, the fact is there may very well be some stuff wrong with the character, but for all intensive purposes it was approved anyway. I don't think we should null the two topics here but we can re-examine the character's approval to determine the FUTURE of the character, what needs to be changed, etc.

If you say that the Cadinae who was killed was the one that was killed, then all basis for warn is removed because he was in fact approved when I entered him into the topic. Hikaru's denial didn't happen until about two or three pages in. You would also never be able to warn me for Cadinae on Tefilin, because I've only used him as Calto. Calto was approved, and there's no denying that part. Because I have never used any aspects of Cadinae IC with him, there is no basis for a warn.

However, the fact of the matter is Hikaru did have basis for warn, because this request was meant for the Cadinae lying in Zarethian custody. The fact of the matter is that my saying Cadiane is alive has absolutely nothing to do with Harboring the Planet.

Ragnar the Red · « **Reply #102 on:** February 14, 2012, 08:19:33 PM »

Quote from: Jack on February 14, 2012, 07:55:27 PM

Either approve or continue discussions.

It's you're fucking job. Not to be rude; but ignoring a request shouldn't be an option.

K2 · « **Reply #103 on:** February 16, 2012, 04:32:30 PM »

Approved.

Ragnar the Red · « **Reply #104 on:** February 16, 2012, 07:00:11 PM »

Thanks! Where does that put me at this point?

K2 · « **Reply #105 on:** February 16, 2012, 07:52:57 PM »

Good question.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #106 on:** February 16, 2012, 08:07:59 PM »

It puts you needing to still make the changes we gave you. -.-

Ragnar the Red · « **Reply #107 on:** February 16, 2012, 09:22:48 PM »

Quote from: Sir Nik the I- Prince of Fishies (and Cows) on January 24, 2012, 09:34:35 PM

Also, I get time. In fact, this statement, though it's challenging me, agrees with my argument:
Quote from: ~Hikaru on January 24, 2012, 12:27:08 AM
It changes it according to how big the change is. Your going back in time and fighting things in a time not your own. It's gonna be pretty fucking changed. Even then... If the change is small, it still branches off into mixed futures. Your future has no affect on the present time or the present times unknown futures.
You guys are yelling me about time, and it's the one thing on this forum that actually makes logical sense it seems (with the exception of a point in creation no matter when it was used existing in that plot for all eternity, that still doesn't make sense to me).

Anyway, I've had an idea that fits most of the qualifications Hikaru placed, and she's been forcing me to spend all my time arguing, and I'm sick of holding it in. I don't care anymore, I;m posting it. And Hikaru, before you say no, know that it was based on an idea of Cap's.

My idea is that it is a ritual, but it requires three things
1. A physical touch
2. Mutual sympathy/empathy between two people
3. One of them to die.
Two people are facing each other. They make eye contact, and touch each others hand. They are both feeling a strong emotion, and both are feeling a sympathy/empathy for each other. One of these people must be on the brink of death. Both must be emotionally tiring. When they are touching, the one about to die, must die. Upon doing this, it could cause a transfer the spirit of the dead one into the live one, but not necessarily into a dominating position. In this case, only the memories would have taken over.

It may need some working on, but it at least works rather than just adhering to a "No, never, give it up, I don't want you to have anything near it," approach.

Tah Dah!

Ragnar the Red · « **Reply #108 on:** February 18, 2012, 04:26:37 PM »

I take it that means accepted! Yay!

Queen Bright · « **Reply #109 on:** February 19, 2012, 11:24:00 PM »

No it doesn't. It just means we're too damn busy to answer right now.

Quote from: ~Hikaru on January 24, 2012, 11:09:03 PM

The conditions are fine all for one thing. If they die you can't have their spirit as it would go automatically to purgatory or be taken by the Reaper...

Ragnar the Red · « **Reply #110 on:** February 20, 2012, 02:13:15 PM »

Could it have left an imprint?

K2 · « **Reply #111 on:** February 20, 2012, 03:45:16 PM »

No, not without some outstanding reason to have done so, for instance the Genesis King was incredibly strong, an imprint of him was created from released bits of spirit energy which seeped out of K2323 and Kai.

Ragnar the Red · « **Reply #112 on:** February 20, 2012, 06:31:26 PM »

What if it was only a partial imprint (like only memory)?

K2 · « **Reply #113 on:** February 21, 2012, 01:09:54 PM »

Again, it wouldn't occur naturally without some trigger.

Ragnar the Red · « **Reply #114 on:** February 21, 2012, 03:49:06 PM »

Like a ritual?

K2 · « **Reply #115 on:** February 21, 2012, 04:09:53 PM »

Ragnar the Red · « **Reply #116 on:** February 21, 2012, 04:18:07 PM »

Like the ritual I laid out earlier?

K2 · « **Reply #117 on:** February 25, 2012, 10:41:20 PM »

Oh. My bad.

* Mortape123 goes to reread.

Ragnar the Red · « **Reply #118 on:** February 26, 2012, 01:00:26 PM »

Here's the original post where I brought it up

Quote from: Sir Nik the I- Prince of Fishies (and Cows) on January 24, 2012, 09:34:35 PM

Anyway, I've had an idea that fits most of the qualifications Hikaru placed, and she's been forcing me to spend all my time arguing, and I'm sick of holding it in. I don't care anymore, I;m posting it. And Hikaru, before you say no, know that it was based on an idea of Cap's.

My idea is that it is a ritual, but it requires three things
1. A physical touch
2. Mutual sympathy/empathy between two people
3. One of them to die.
Two people are facing each other. They make eye contact, and touch each others hand. They are both feeling a strong emotion, and both are feeling a sympathy/empathy for each other. One of these people must be on the brink of death. Both must be emotionally tiring. When they are touching, the one about to die, must die. Upon doing this, it could cause a transfer the spirit of the dead one into the live one, but not necessarily into a dominating position. In this case, only the memories would have taken over.

It may need some working on, but it at least works rather than just adhering to a "No, never, give it up, I don't want you to have anything near it," approach.

A little more in depth, but it's a start. I'll go look for any comments attached to it.

EDIT: Oh wow. I feel like a fail! It's on the top of the page!

K2 · « **Reply #119 on:** February 26, 2012, 01:29:01 PM »

This is fine with me.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #120 on:** March 04, 2012, 11:49:37 PM »

Only if it's a partial imprint.

Ragnar the Red · « **Reply #121 on:** March 04, 2012, 11:52:46 PM »

I'm pretty sure all it needs is memories.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #122 on:** March 04, 2012, 11:59:05 PM »

Fiiiiiine. Not happy about it, but approved.