Kotah and Ezael were the shared creation of both Hikaru and I; IC I had Koty appoint his child the successor because I was under the impression I would be playing the child. Then when Hikaru split them I was even more okay with that, because she'd get one too. Instead she just stole both of them and is now trying to steal the mantle of Destruction. Even though it's been declared IC that twins cannot become Destruction unless one is dead. Therefore a new successor has to be chosen.
tl;dr? AKA Me and Hikaru had our two namesakes character have a child then she stole BOTH of them and refused to let me even play either one, and then she's trying to steal my own creation and namesake character's title. The Mantle of Destruction.
And I'm the one who steals peoples magic? At least I don't fucking steal whole characters. I want staff intervention, now.
Hell; I named Ezael and Kotah is nothing but my nickname with an H at the end of it. Pronounced the same way though. DaKOTA White. I get called Kota more then I hear my real name.
I was the driving force and the reason they were even conceived in the first place, and all Hikaru did was wait till I was gone before getting them both approved by the staff for her. Ignoring the fact that they were not entirely her creation. Hell, the only thing she had done to have them come about IC is give birth to them. They were MY idea that I convinced her to end up doing.
Last time I checked Cap they were my creations and will remain fucking so.
It's funny how you didn't try to even touch the Hikaru stealing the characters part, and even though I'd consider that a bannable offense for anyone else on the site. Stealing someone else work? Awesome.
1. Kotah and Ezael are a concept of a child of Hikaru and Koty. How the fuck is that a creation and how can any of us lay claim to that? People have their characters have children all the time in RPs. Way long before you or I ever agreed to it. The AC idea was yours, yes, Anti-Christ baby. But the religious lore was dropped and the children became just regular children of an Embodiment and Sage. (Much like the Sage Three are grandchildren of an embodiment.) Nothing more
originally.Even if they hadn't split though, the lore was dropped you laid claim to NOTHING. And when I agreed to have Hikaru had kids I never once said you could play it or agreed to that part. Hell at first I thought it was gonna be a damn NPC plot device. You're the one that thought "Oooh another god character for me to take control of."
HOWEVER you chose to have Koty name the CHILD the successor. When it turned out to be twins you decided to go and quit the damn site. You passed it to K2 who passed the one you would have had on to me since face it, they were my characters kids and since they were fucking
babies it only makes sense for them to be with the mother at all times.
Would have left them as NPCs but the story required them as characters passed a certain point. Then when I had them requested you decided to come back (for the 100th time) and try to claim them, that's when we all had this fun debate
http://shatteredplanes.com/forum/index.php?topic=1931.msg19401#msg19401At that point the characters were mine. Why? I named them, requested them, fleshed out their story to the point they were at, at that point. Gave them life and made them characters. Even the others agreed.
You still tried to lay 'claim' but claim to what? A baby? A child of Hikaru and Koty? Um... oldest idea in the book, cliche', cannot be copyrighted. How can I steal something that almost every RPer does?
Also, you didn't convince me. You brought it up JOKINGLY, I said no way. Thought about it later then approached you asking if you actually wanted to have it happen. I have the logs... somewhere.
2. TAYLOR came up with Kotah. Actually she wanted it Kota, but I was like "No way." So she added the H. That was when she was like baby crazy and wanted to help with damn near everything. I'd have preferred to spell it like Elfen Lied does "Kohta" that way it was a real Japanese name and not your name. ...Might actually change it. I never felt comfortable RPing the name as it is your nickname even if it was being nice and letting Taylor pick the name...
EZAEL I came up with. I have the log somewhere where I asked you what you'd name yours and you said "Exial" or something, I dunno. It was some combination spelling of Exhile though, in regards to your Anti-Christ plot. Never Ezael. I'll attempt to find the chatlog.
So in regards to those parts stop with your whole "Character stealer," "bannable offense," crap. You can't steal a baby concept as it's the oldest in the book. And character-wise there was nothing TO steal.
Now about the Destruction part...
Doesn't matter; even if I have no rights to it, it was still created in such a way that the current usage of it is null. The system doesn't work like that, and Destruction is a unique case among Embodiments anyway.
It is one of the chief embodiments and cannot be separate for long; it HAS to be an active and full powered Embodiment. It would leave the twins seeing as they have no intention of killing one another, and would choose another successor.
...I'm sorry. But I don't really care if you are the creator of Destruction. It's just a damn embodiment like Time, Space, etc. It stopped being 'special,' when the lore about them being gods was put down. SURE Eli and Koty WERE considered gods and WERE special as they were once COMPLETE the son of a Perfect and Imperfect. However that was THEM not their force.
I would think once they died, their 'specialness' died. And even then, chief embodiments? I'll tell you now. Time NEVER answered to them. Pretty sure many of the others probably didn't either. They were gods to mortals and embodiments that didn't know the truth Orph. Stop acting like they were the best things since sliced bread and were on some higher plane of figurative reality that no other characters can compare.
Your force is not special, get over it. I can see it needing a successor. Yeah. Some of the more powerful ones would need someone to harness them. But that it means brothers have to kill each other for it? Um... what? Where does that even make sense? Emptiness was split into two twins like Red has Void and Null. There is no reason no other force can't do the same. It's just balanced between two successors instead of one.
I didn't try to steal it. Hell I didn't even want it. But you were gone AGAIN and IC you HAD made them the successors. As I am playing them I have no damn choice but to play the embodiment power. Because ICly it makes sense.
It'd be OOC not to have them have it since IC they were made successors. And I'll be damned if you're gonna sit there and say Destruction and Creation are so high above everything else that they work completely different. The same could be said about Time and Space than. Those are also two opposite forces that are required for reality to work and would be considered 'gods.'
Shall I make up some catch that makes it to where only my characters can ever gain the force of Time back? Like uhhh only ones of a certain clan royalty or something stupid like 'have to kill each other.'
Get over it, get another force. If Asura ever dies I'll have to do the same. I don't 'own' the concept of Time. Just the character who is embodying it.
Now that, that is settled...
Seriously.. Blackcat. STAY OUT OF THINGS.
Me and Orph never been that great of friends, but I would have to agree with him on this. Hikaru has no right to modify what isn't her creation or use it without his permission. On top of that if she truly stole those characters thats even worse. If we did that we would be banned so how is this fair?
THIS is why I don't like backseat modding in requests or debates. EVERY damn topic that's bashing me or another staff member you popup in, you Nik, and sometimes even Zak. And what's your reason? To put in your two cents and come to a fair conclusion for the good of the site? Maybe the first but not the second. More times than less, it's to agree with whoevers bashing the staff member and just complain about that staff member without even knowing the WHOLE DAMN STORY.
"Oooh Hikaru's stealing characters and creations no hers because Orph said so!" ...Not because you actually looked into it or tried to get the whole story. Not that you haven't even bothered to read how the embodiment system works or anything like that as well.
Logan, when has anything involving Hikaru ever really been fair?
And that... How the FUCK is that any use to this topic whatsoever? WHAT'S MORE! How is it even backed up without the details behind all of this which I just fucking typed up? ....And you wonder why I want to ban you people from backseat modding.
And this... god...
Good god I feel a rant coming on. I once again have no personal problems with Hikaru but why the hell does she get special treatment? When she threaten to ban Hawkeye just because he wasn't going to post in a topic all she got was a slap on the wrist. If I would have done it I would of got de-admin and banned. She steals characters apparently, if we would have done it we would have been banned. She works her characters in to be the strongest ever, yet if we tried to we are denied. Why the special treatment? Someone on the staff answer me that.
I don't even want to get into answering this as it should be obvious and I've explained it before, but whatever.
The threat was a god damn empty threat as a joke. I didn't ban him, nor did I plan to. It was just a "Wonder if he'd hurry up if I said that." And by now? Hawkeye should have know that. I wouldn't have said it to anyone else as they'd take it seriously. But Hawkeye by now would even know it was just for reaction. Plus I knew he wasn't really busy and it was more of just a scare for again, reaction.
Had I done it and actually serious? Um yeah I'd have been fucking de-adminned and probably suspended a while.
I DID NOT steal the characters. And AGAIN you shouldn't even be fucking commenting on that with just one testimony. God, it's like a match at grade school. One person says someone did something, all the kids take their side just because they can. Fucking retarded.
She works her characters in to be the strongest ever, yet if we tried to we are denied.
This is just getting on my nerves because you said the same exact thing here....
I personally don't agree with some of the way magic is used. I mean Hikaru character has so many safe guards from being killed it isn't funny. Hell if we had a war none of us would have to fight. We just send her in head first and win.
Meta-gaming/god-modding (I really used these term loosely. I think a character should have a safe guard yes, but when the character can come back to life when it dies it doesn't need to overly protect itself and become untouchable. And deny it all you want people, but lets face it, none of us can have a character that can pretty much slaughter others without even touching them. I get she's a Sage Three but not even K2 and Kai's characters were that powerful. I think she should tone her character's power down a to equal out with the rest of us.)
...She's not that powerful. I like to make her out to be, because I like to brag about the Sage Three. Orph did the same exact thing with Koty. Oh but you weren't here. What power she DOES have, I have RP developed her into ALL of it throughout the years since the OK in 2006. Training, learning, battling, coming across, simply living...
And IC she brags about being that powerful because that's just the type of character she is. Sarcastic and prideful as all hell.
And HELL yeah she has safeguards from being killed. It's in her fucking personality as it is somewhat mine. She doesn't want to die. Hell, she fears permanent death. A phoenix normally will rise into reincartion when killed naturally through mortal means, and go to the afterlife when killed unaturally through magical means. Doesn't mean she likes death. Mortal means she can live with and wouldn't beg. Afterlife? Not so much. Who would? But seriously. You're gonna sit there and complain because she has safeguards? Because the damn character CHOSE to have safeguards due to that fear?
The Ingrounded state I can understand, as that is cheating permanent death. But that's limited. You can't battle, you can't take over stuff, or cause many contradictions or existence WILL erase you as a bug in the system. You CAN come back to life, yes, and be subgrounded again to be ingrounded once you die. But you're not all powerful when you come back to life, sure you may cause damage, but what was to stop you from doing so before you died the first time? It's true immortality but at the cost of playing a part in history unless you bring yourself back to life, except to troll I guess... "Can't touch me." Like that.
So no, the ingrounded CANNOT slaughter. INGROUNDEDHIKARU right now is completely worthless in a fight except to fucking troll you. SUBGROUNDEDHIKARU is of her original power and in the end will be the only Hikaru. Which you would have known had you paid attention to my RP will or any topics for that matter.
But as for my character in particular, she would choose that true immortality over dying, and then come back to life merely because she fears death.
So get off my fucking case about safeguards and overpowered. Anything she has was devloped and her 'safeguards,' are because SHE does not want to die so also developed.
....Also I don't appreciate you accusing me of metagaming and godmodding when I have done EVERYTHING in my power to call out those things and would NEVER do them myself.
So again, Blackcat, Zak, Nik. SHUT UP. You're not helping when you don't even backup what you are saying.
