Author Topic: Abel (Read 9993 times)

Ino · « **Reply #100 on:** April 03, 2010, 04:06:25 PM »

Doesn't change anything. Abel is Alex, just not in America.

Orph · « **Reply #101 on:** April 03, 2010, 05:44:17 PM »

Not really, the only thing they have in common is the Virus and the absorption. And even then they are different, Alex is just a virus, Abel's arm is basically a sentient virus in a coma. Then the absorption is different, Alex absorbs body mass and memories, were Abel absorbs spirits and entire minds, this means Alex remembers stuff, while Abel has literally infinite amount of people in his head, along with practically all the knowledge of the universe.

And hell, if I did derive this character from Alex it was entirely my subconscious' fault. Since I hadn't played or done anything regarding the game in nearly a year.

So suck it.

Ino · « **Reply #102 on:** April 03, 2010, 06:28:55 PM »

If you honestly think that saying "suck it" to me will help you better yourself in our "relationship" you're wrong, so go fuck yourself.

Second of all, you were obsessed with that game and Abel was on CE as well, in which you made him over the summer, the same fucking summer you bought Prototype. You derive every damn character off of one already made and slap a different name on it. I'm not stupid. You're just trying to find a way to keep Abel, you don't even seem to be using him anyway and this character already had problems and accusations before. You just want to keep him.

Orph · « **Reply #103 on:** April 03, 2010, 06:35:39 PM »

Actually Abel wasn't on CE, soo yeeah.

Ino · « **Reply #104 on:** April 03, 2010, 06:39:30 PM »

GE then. I remember RPing with him.

Orph · « **Reply #105 on:** April 03, 2010, 06:40:12 PM »

Nah, made this character for this site.

Ino · « **Reply #106 on:** April 03, 2010, 06:41:50 PM »

Mkay smart ass, doesn't really matter because you're in contact with both Alex and Abel.

Stop ripping off characters idiot.

Nisorin · « **Reply #107 on:** April 03, 2010, 08:46:45 PM »

Watch it Aristotle, or you'll be getting your second warning.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #108 on:** April 19, 2010, 11:58:14 PM »

Calling the character out for one thing.

You said he can absorb all the parallel copies of someone. And in the chat, said this means every race, as someone might be of a different race in a parallel parallel universe. That's unfair. As it would mean you'd have access to every race, even the ones you don't control of, since they could have been part of it in another parallel universe. This makes it unfair to us that create and play races, as it means you have access to everything about that race just by saying you absorbed someone that could have had access.

This makes it to where we can't have the race have secrets from their ancients, have things passed down, or even specific magic only to them. Because you have access to it all. I don't think when they approved the character, they really thought about that. It limits us as storytellers for our races.

Nisorin · « **Reply #109 on:** April 20, 2010, 12:01:52 AM »

Hikaru brings up a good point, and to accentuate, I've brought the chatlog.

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kivith (8:01:23 PM):Lets say Abel absorbed Jim.
kivith (8:01:44 PM):In an infinite amount of possibilities, there is one universe where Jim was paxan.
kivith (8:01:56 PM):Or Leader of the Anrufe.
NekoHikaruChan (8:02:02 PM):Then that's godmodding its self.
kivith (8:02:02 PM):Or Kaleb's brother.
kivith (8:02:06 PM):No.
NekoHikaruChan (8:02:08 PM):Yes

Yes, this is indeed godmodding, because Abel would have access to every last bit of information from every race, whether they've been made or not.

Zero · « **Reply #110 on:** April 20, 2010, 12:03:08 AM »

Precisely what I am calling him on.
Read the tournament topic where he fought me. He absorbed EVERY copy of Jeffrey and turned them into that energy when I tried to break free of him. That is godmodding.

@Pokemon Master Red · « **Reply #111 on:** April 20, 2010, 12:17:22 AM »

In itself, if he were absorbed the other copies of him, he should no longer exist; his arm absorbs ALL Abels by that means...Even the one doing the absorbing. Therefore, he would have deleted himself from existance, by that logic. I think.

Nisorin · « **Reply #112 on:** April 20, 2010, 12:35:52 AM »

Hawkeye, that's not what we're discussing. What we're discussing is the acquisition of information, not the use of what he has available to himself in battle.

Hiro, if the arm absorbed Abel, the virus in Abel would be destroyed, and it's rather obvious the virus doesn't want that.

Zero · « **Reply #113 on:** April 20, 2010, 12:39:52 AM »

All Starclan knowledge?
No!

Nisorin · « **Reply #114 on:** April 20, 2010, 12:44:02 AM »

No what, Hawkeye?

@Pokemon Master Red · « **Reply #115 on:** April 20, 2010, 01:11:11 AM »

Doesn't matter what the virus wants if the power specifically absorbs every single one of that person's existance, right? From reading it, I dont think he has the power to change its ability to only absorb specific dimension's beings, instead invariably absorbing all of them.
Right? If thats just innane babble, please lemme know. >_<

Zero · « **Reply #116 on:** April 20, 2010, 08:15:41 AM »

See what he did is use his skeleton hand to absorb every copy of Jeffrey and all their knowledge with it. Plus he transformed the souls and spirits into a large energy blast which he used against me. Bad form. I disapprove even though I can't.

Nisorin · « **Reply #117 on:** April 20, 2010, 08:53:31 PM »

Hiro, it was a combination of the virus and some very messed up events that created the arm. I'm fairly sure that, should Abel try to use the arm against the virus, it will intervene. For the other bit, I'm not sure what you're talking about.

Hawkeye, that's not bad form. That's using your opponent to destroy your opponent. It's no different from stealing an enemy ship, and using it in battle against them.

Gaserlake · « **Reply #118 on:** April 20, 2010, 09:44:32 PM »

I agree. This is godmodding. If Abel absorbed one person, just one, he would have infinite knowledge. Infinite parallel universes means infinite possibilities. Infinite amount of possibilities means infinite knowledge.

Plus, since there are infinite possibilities, there would be a possibility of having the virus turn on Abel and absorb all parallel Abels, therefore having Abel's existence contradicted.

Orph · « **Reply #119 on:** April 20, 2010, 10:57:48 PM »

No, since there is only on Abel, there isn't infinite possibilities for every single absorption, that doesn't even make sense.

As for the knowledge thing I thought I told you that, while he has all the knowledge he had to lock it away inside his own brain to make sure his own brain doesn't implode on all the knowledge, it takes an incredibly long time to unlock a specific memory or subject as he has to go through literally thousands of "locked doors" inside his own mind. So even if he has the knowledge, accessing said knowledge is incredibly difficult.

Plus he has no knowledge on things that no one in the multi-verse knows, so basically he has all MORTAL knowledge, he wouldn't know all of God's secrets or Lucifer's secrets etc.. As no one in the plane would no that, even with infinite possibilities.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #120 on:** April 20, 2010, 11:36:03 PM »

He would still have all our races secrets. We couldn't have anything passed down or closely guarded as you 'd know it all. Such as the TPF.

And locked doesn't do anything. OOC you can say it and get it approved. But IC, you can just decide whenever he unlocks it, thus making that useless.

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NekoHikaruChan (8:02:02 PM):Then that's godmodding its self.
kivith (8:02:02 PM):Or Kaleb's brother.
kivith (8:02:06 PM):No.
NekoHikaruChan (8:02:08 PM):Yes
kivith (8:02:13 PM):As he is limited to his access.
kivith (8:02:22 PM):He may have it.
NekoHikaruChan (8:02:23 PM):Then he still wouldn't know.
kivith (8:02:25 PM):But it's locked away.
kivith (8:02:39 PM):I can easily unlock it.
kivith (8:02:41 PM):and access it.

Gaserlake · « **Reply #121 on:** April 20, 2010, 11:43:21 PM »

And I don't see how there is only one Abel, if there are infinite possibilities.

Zero · « **Reply #122 on:** April 20, 2010, 11:46:38 PM »

I agree with everyone on this one Orph.

Orph · « **Reply #123 on:** April 21, 2010, 08:22:58 AM »

He destroyed those infinite possibilities by absorbing himself. Pretty much he's every Abel.

And the easily part was a bluff, I like messing with people.

@Pokemon Master Red · « **Reply #124 on:** April 21, 2010, 09:26:36 AM »

Either way, by the first person he'd absorbed, he'd have a form of omniknowledge, which is Goddmodding. Doesn't matter if he cant easily access it, the fact is that he actually CAN.

Plus, what of the possibility of another of him fighting off the him that tries to absorb the others, or a him that has the arm but decides against absorbing the others? If he went to absorb every other one of him, he'd be on a endless journey, as there is a endless number of possibilities. Unless, of course, he absorbs them all at once, to which he'd also absorb himself and thus delete himself from existence.