Author Topic: Abel (Read 9998 times)

Orph · « **Reply #125 on:** April 21, 2010, 04:39:37 PM »

You didn't read HOW he absorbs people do you? By absorbing one he absorbs all of them, therefore he absorbed himself, except since the virus/arm needs the specific him to survive it didn't absorb him, so he's technically the only Abel there.

And so does Koty, seeing as he is one of the two beings that can be called God, as could Eli. It's the fact that they do not use it, neither would Abel, hell by the time it takes for him to access the knowledge a man could read up on that and learn all about it.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #126 on:** April 21, 2010, 04:55:26 PM »

Then the TPF CAN be approved.

Orph · « **Reply #127 on:** April 21, 2010, 05:13:54 PM »

No, the TPF was disapproved for different reasons then Abel's arm is coming under questioning for.

@Pokemon Master Red · « **Reply #128 on:** April 21, 2010, 06:21:45 PM »

Dude, it DOESN'T MATTER HOW EASILY OR HARD IT IS FOR HIM TO ACCESS IT. He still CAN without having ever placed himself in real danger or working to get that knowledge. I dont care if it takes him five years to get it, he still CAN get it without doing anything but absorbing a random person off the streets who in another life may have been the freaking King of the empire. It doesn't matter how long it takes, since he would still be able to get it! He would be Omnipotent by that way.

Gaserlake · « **Reply #129 on:** April 21, 2010, 08:03:54 PM »

Quote from: Kivith on April 21, 2010, 04:39:37 PM

You didn't read HOW he absorbs people do you? By absorbing one he absorbs all of them, therefore he absorbed himself, except since the virus/arm needs the specific him to survive it didn't absorb him, so he's technically the only Abel there.

What about the other Abels and the other viruses refusing to be absorbed? And how would Abel and the virus prevent themselves from being absorbed? There's infinite possibilities. If it's possible for Abel and the virus to not absorb themselves, then it is possible that another pair did it before you did. In fact, another pair might have absorbed your Abel before he even got the ability to absorb.

For the unlocking thing, if he can unlock a knowledge, it's godmodding. His mind is basically a book that shows how to defeat everyone, that needs a key to unlock it. Abel has the key.

Another thing that I'm not sure about is the fact that you can decide when virus becomes active. That would be metagaming. There would need to be something to make the virus active. I think we already talked about this. If we have, sorry. I must have forgotten.

Orph · « **Reply #130 on:** April 21, 2010, 08:20:26 PM »

The virus will become active if anything that would make it active makes it active.

And since Abel was the only Abel that entered the sea made him unique, there are no other virus/Abels. Not really, it just shows the possibilities, but as I said, the length of the method of unlocking it would take would be slower then actually learning it.

@Pokemon Master Red · « **Reply #131 on:** April 21, 2010, 08:31:27 PM »

That doesn't matter, if he can learn it without going through the necessary steps to otherwise do so.

And consider this:He went into the sea. There are more than one possibility after that, however. There is the possibility that he would black out, another that he found stay perfectly conscious, another that the virus would have already dominated his mind, ect. There cant be just one, since his going into the 'sea' would make yet more possibilities to possibly happen. As soon as he went into the sea, more possibilities, and thus more Kiviths happened.

Orph · « **Reply #132 on:** April 21, 2010, 08:34:03 PM »

Yes, but it doesn't matter, as the possibilities that occurred as Abel's arm, and he killed his other selfs and absorbed them, that was the possibility that happened.

@Pokemon Master Red · « **Reply #133 on:** April 21, 2010, 08:42:02 PM »

By the logic your using about that, with other possibilities creating other dimensions, that creates yet more possibilities that also happen, as in other Kiviths winning and destroying yours. So thus, he cant have absorbed all others, unless he absorbs himself, which would mean that he no longer exists.

Orph · « **Reply #134 on:** April 21, 2010, 09:07:03 PM »

He did absorb himself, I fucking said that. All other hims are in his brain, he is the ONLY Abel. But the Arm/Abel didn't die due to the virus unable to absorb itself, which is a part of Abel.

Beware Ye Who Enter Here · « **Reply #135 on:** May 13, 2010, 06:53:33 PM »

Ok I know I'm a wee bit late but still...
If Abel aabsorbed himself but he couldn't die due to virus and arm resisting then how did they all stay in his brain? How did they all not die? Why is this SOB omnipotent like some other characters kivith seems to have...?

Nisorin · « **Reply #136 on:** May 13, 2010, 07:41:25 PM »

To my knowledge, Abel has never absorbed himself. I'm not sure where you're getting that stuff from. If I've missed something, please do let me know.

@Pokemon Master Red · « **Reply #137 on:** May 13, 2010, 07:46:02 PM »

Quote from: Kivith on April 21, 2010, 08:22:58 AM

He destroyed those infinite possibilities by absorbing himself. Pretty much he's every Abel.

About as easy ta miss as a barn door with a nuke, Nisorin. XP

Orph · « **Reply #138 on:** May 13, 2010, 08:23:59 PM »

Absorbing his other selves, not the Arm/Abel, I've explained how they stay in his brain, and none of my characters are omnipotent. They are powerful, but even Koty can be killed.

@Pokemon Master Red · « **Reply #139 on:** May 13, 2010, 08:29:52 PM »

Actually, this one has the extreme potential for omnipotence. He could easily have the powers of (almost)any being, by absorbing their souls.

Orph · « **Reply #140 on:** May 13, 2010, 08:31:35 PM »

Abel can only absorb their minds and personalities, he cannot mimic their powers.

Nisorin · « **Reply #141 on:** May 13, 2010, 08:57:52 PM »

No more so than any other mage anyway.

@Pokemon Master Red · « **Reply #142 on:** May 13, 2010, 09:15:14 PM »

...Well, then why's Legion so powerful, if he operates off of the souls Abel once collected?

Orph · « **Reply #143 on:** May 13, 2010, 09:16:32 PM »

He's basically one-thousand Sages.

@Pokemon Master Red · « **Reply #144 on:** May 13, 2010, 09:20:45 PM »

...In the body of a being normally incapable of magic.

Orph · « **Reply #145 on:** May 13, 2010, 09:23:42 PM »

Only due to their lack of a soul, now he has one thousand.

@Pokemon Master Red · « **Reply #146 on:** May 13, 2010, 09:25:42 PM »

Humans have souls...Unless you mean Soul Organs, which numerous beings can use magic without, and to which if that is so, they wouldn't fit in the human body.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #147 on:** May 13, 2010, 09:33:31 PM »

Quote from: Pokemon Master Red on May 13, 2010, 09:25:42 PM

Humans have souls...Unless you mean Soul Organs, which numerous beings can use magic without, and to which if that is so, they wouldn't fit in the human body.

No. Humans have spirits.
On this RP IRL concept of soul = spirit.

@Pokemon Master Red · « **Reply #148 on:** May 13, 2010, 09:36:17 PM »

...Then Soul means only the organ? If thats the case, there's no way in Hell he could've stuffed them all into a human body, and even if he did, it still wouldn't connect to the organs and blood vessels inside it...

Orph · « **Reply #149 on:** May 13, 2010, 09:41:44 PM »

MAGIC!