Author Topic: Archive Technology (Read 22769 times)

Orph · « **Reply #450 on:** August 11, 2010, 02:56:00 PM »

Flash - ...Mini-version means it isn't bulky, and there is the fact that the Locust is also powered by powerful energy cells ALREADY containing energy, not a generator but basically super-high tech batteries.

Imgaitt: And Imgait prevents both of that. :3

Gaserlake · « **Reply #451 on:** August 11, 2010, 03:01:04 PM »

Flash: Alright, but the warp drive would take up a lot of energy. And still, batteries, plus warp drive, plus combat gear... that's pretty bulky. And don't say that the batteries don't take up much space, because they have to be pretty big to fit enough energy to use the warp drive.

Imgaitt: How?

Orph · « **Reply #452 on:** August 11, 2010, 07:32:17 PM »

Flash: The Locust doesn't have combat gear, they bring their own weapons into the fight, like a Helios or the like. The warp drive would be pretty small, and the batteries followed by the generator would produce more then enough energy to power it.

Imgaitt: It both strengthens the formation and changes magic in a slight way which lessens the AM fields ability to fuck with magic.

Gaserlake · « **Reply #453 on:** August 12, 2010, 09:53:34 PM »

Flash: Umm... the weapons they bring are part of combat gear.

Imgaitt: If it changes magic, it would be difficult to control it, as it would be changed. Also, it would still be magic. Magic is magic to AM fields. AM fields are indiscriminate. How does it strengthen the formation of energy? The chemical composition wouldn't be there... it would be magic. The building blocks of magic aren't magic.

Orph · « **Reply #454 on:** August 12, 2010, 10:07:21 PM »

Imgaitt: Hows does the AM field break it down, or cause it to explode? Give me a straight damn answer and I can give you one.

Flash: And they don't use the armor as a power source.

Gaserlake · « **Reply #455 on:** August 12, 2010, 10:15:48 PM »

Flash: I didn't say anything about armor, and more a reason to make it more awkward to carry around.

Imgaitt: It's basically a re-conversion from magic, in its energy form, to its building blocks, in matter form. Think of it as a rock weathering away down to its building blocks, except the process is near-instant (not instant because nothing can be instant, but quick enough to the point that it wouldn't matter if the person acted in an AM field or not). For the destruction, if it can't bring magic down to its building blocks, then it will encounter with the AM field in such a way that the two would conflict, and it would end up with the AM field winning.

Orph · « **Reply #456 on:** August 12, 2010, 10:34:40 PM »

Flash - The armor is small/light and the warp drive is incredibly small, fitting in the armor without making it bulky. The combat gear really is basically just weapons, they can easily be carried around.

Imgaitt: And Imgaitt strengthens the magic's creation and allows it to overpower the AM field, but leaves it in a weaker state.

Gaserlake · « **Reply #457 on:** August 12, 2010, 11:57:52 PM »

Flash: I don't see how the warp drive can fit in small and light armor. It can't be that small.

Imgaitt: It would still be magic. Magic is magic. I don't see magic can overwhelm the AM field and survive. The AM field would keep cutting down magic until it's completely gone. It won't have a set amount of damage to magic. It's constant. It would strengthen the magic's creation, sure, but it won't strengthen the magic from breaking down. Strengthening the magic's creation would either change the magic, or it would increase the rate of producing magic.

Orph · « **Reply #458 on:** August 13, 2010, 12:30:30 AM »

Imgaitt: It strengthens the Magic FROM breaking down, it also has it where the magic can't be destroyed, by the AM at least. This works by making the magic nearly immune to the damage said AM field does to the magic, resistant enough were the magic is still being damaged, just so little that it doesn't matter, but by doing so it also weakens the magic that is used inside the field.

Flash: It's called super-science, especially since the warp field is both very weak, and very small, I see no reason why it can't be small.

Gaserlake · « **Reply #459 on:** August 13, 2010, 02:21:35 AM »

Imgaitt: How does it strengthen the magic from breaking down? And being nearly immune? How does that work, too? Also, it would only stop the magic from breaking down into its building blocks, not from being destroyed, resulting in big flashes and loud noises, and heat. It's still magic, so it would result in being destroyed. It would quickly be destroyed by the AM field until there's no magic left, as long as it's in an AM field.

Flash: Alright, but there's one problem, though: It would be overpowering. You can't hit a target going that fast. I use the nuke? Well, the explosion and the radiation would be warped around the person, serving as a very powerful shield.

K2 · « **Reply #460 on:** August 13, 2010, 05:09:15 PM »

Wrong, Gaser. I dare say it is possible for magic to be advanced so that it is immune to anti-magic.

Orph · « **Reply #461 on:** August 14, 2010, 11:40:39 PM »

Flash: No it wouldn't, if you understood the concept of warp fields you'd know that while the space is warped, it's warped in such a way that if you shot at the front of a warp field, it would have LESS space to travel then you would if you shot at the back, it doesn't shield at all.

Gaserlake · « **Reply #462 on:** August 15, 2010, 12:29:23 AM »

Imgaitt: Magic is not made to counter anti-magic. Anti-magic is made to counter magic. You're using something that would be useless in an AM field. You make it so that it will survive in an AM field? It's not magic, then.

Flash: I just realized there are two types of warp, if my idea is even considered warp. Anyway... seeing that it's a very weak warp, wouldn't it be... unstable or something? And, wouldn't it be easy to hit a wall with that speed? How fast are we talking?

@Pokemon Master Red · « **Reply #463 on:** August 15, 2010, 02:38:46 AM »

Gaser, just because a AM field is made to counter magic doesn't mean that it always will, regardless of strength. Things CAN beoverpowered, you know. If what your saying is that magic can never overpower an AM field, thats like saying a Anti-Aircraft turret cant be destroyed by a bomber force.
Actually, thats a pretty good analogy...The Anti-Aircraft guns's effectve attack radius represents an AM field, and the bombers represent magic. Sure, the Anti-Air guns will tear the bomber strike force a new one, but have enough bombers and eventually you can obliterate the Anti-Air guns and move on.

K2 · « **Reply #464 on:** August 15, 2010, 02:28:58 PM »

Exactly. The days of AM Fields are limited.

Gaserlake · « **Reply #465 on:** August 15, 2010, 03:55:42 PM »

Yes, I know... but it's like continuous fire. It's like... AA guns, with fighter jets attacking the bombers. The AM field is all around them. Sure, the magic can survive, like... a very short time. It's like quickly replacing an AA gun with another. One gets bombed, then gets replaced. Same thing with the fighter jets. They would also have a hell of a rate of fire, too, enough so that it seems like it's a constant blow. Better off leaving the bombs back at home and not wasting them.

For the IAM fields, it would remove all of the magic inside the person, too, so there would be more AM stuff in the person than there is magic. The person wouldn't be able to use his or her magic all at once anymore.

With enough magic, I guess it would work, but even then, that would be a short amount of time.

@Pokemon Master Red · « **Reply #466 on:** August 15, 2010, 03:59:53 PM »

Gaser, thats saying its impossible to overpower it. Which is, of course, Godmodding.
Of course they could bring in more AA guns. Thats doesn't mean you cant bring in more bombers, though. The point of it is, that just because one thing is designed to destroy another, doesn't mean that the other thing cannot still destroy it with a overbearing force. Even if the AM field has more than one AA Gun and Fighters, with enough bombers you CAN still destroy it all, its not a impossibility, you know. >.>

Gaserlake · « **Reply #467 on:** August 15, 2010, 04:04:05 PM »

Though, it's like all the bombers being taken down simultaneously. All of the magic exposed to the AM field will be taken down all at once. Nothing is really impossible, you're saying it's godmodding for an entire army to take down a single person.

Orph · « **Reply #468 on:** August 15, 2010, 11:07:31 PM »

No Gaser, you have that backwards, you're saying that it's impossible for an entire army to take down one person. And we have it that it's against the rules that something is impossible to overload/overpower, if the AM field cant be overpowered, then the BALAR can't.

Neutronium - Neutronium is the hardest known substance in the universe, although very, very heavy. It's naturally found inside the cores of Neutron Stars, which the Archive harvests naturally.

Gaserlake · « **Reply #469 on:** August 15, 2010, 11:42:04 PM »

Neutronium: Approved.

No. I'm saying that it's entirely possible for an entire army to take down one person. It's an example of AM fields taking down magic. The AM fields would represent an entire army, and the magic would represent the lone person. How else is the AM field so goddamn effective? You can't have it be like "Oh, the AM fields are weaker now, so yeah." Okay. If the BALAR can't be overpowered, then neither can all of my shields on all of my ships. You're saying that it's bs that one person can't survive a full-scale attack from an entire army. So, what now? I can't send my entire fleet against one planet? I can only send ten of my ships at most? Hell, I can only use my titan against another titan? WHAT NEXT?!

Orph · « **Reply #470 on:** August 15, 2010, 11:43:40 PM »

Except the AM field isn't an entire army, it's one thing.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #471 on:** August 15, 2010, 11:44:56 PM »

Quote

Neutronium is the hardest known substance in the universe

What do you mean by universe? Cause there are harder.

Orph · « **Reply #472 on:** August 15, 2010, 11:46:56 PM »

No, it's literally the hardest known substance in the universe, there MAY be harder things, but this is the hardest KNOWN substance.

@Pokemon Master Red · « **Reply #473 on:** August 15, 2010, 11:47:58 PM »

Gaser, what part of "The magic represented here is a bigger army than the AM army" DONT you understand? We're saying that Magic is able to overpower a AM field. Which should be freaking obvious. I dont care if its Anti-Magic. Again, Anti-Aircraft are designed to destroy airborn attackers. What your saying is a single Anti-Aircraft gun can obliterate the whole damn airforce.

Queen Bright · « **Reply #474 on:** August 15, 2010, 11:50:24 PM »

Uh.. If you could overpower an AM field, what the hell is the point of an AM Field? Just because you raise your level higher, doesn't mean you can overpower something. Get around it, find ways to protect your magic, okay. But just be the higher power? Yeah... no.