Archive Technology

[Gaserlake]

Ugh. Magic is existence, literally. Except there's two types. Your regular existence that we're alive on. And then your converted existence. Which goes through the soul or whatever your race has that converts it to use able MAGIC. AM Field blocks out the converted existence/MAGIC, not the existence that's life. Then there's Spirit Energy that's sentience/consciousness . So Existence/Life, Consciousness Energy, Existence Converted/Magic. With me so far? Yeah I'm explaining magic, so the fuck what.

Just powering the converted existence more, DOES NOT overpower what's cutting it off aka the change that was went into converting existence to magic.

Explained. Scientifically? Can't scientifically explain something that can't be scientifically explained, except to scientifically explain that it can't be scientifically explained further than how it can't be scientifically explained.

[Orph]

Except it can be explained, at least not the degree where it's pretty much all known about. AM fields need to be explained, if you can't explain them then you have no control over how other things effect them.

[Gaserlake]

Well, all I need to know is that they work. Just cuz I don't know how it works, doesn't mean I can't use it.

But anyway, Hikaru explained how AM fields stop magic. Existence is the most absolute thing in the RP. I just remove said existence just as absolute.

[Orph]

Yes, that does mean you can't use it. I might as well make a field that makes matter and energy break down and stop existing, I don't know how it works, but that doesn't mean I can't use it.

And we never agreed that's how magic works. :/

Technology gained from the Felicity will be coming soon, although in small fragments.

[Queen Bright]

And we never agreed that's how magic works. :/

Been that way since the OK. Don't have to agree for things set pre-SP/GE. ESPECIALLY MAGIC.

[Gaserlake]

Hardly anything was explained in OK, and magic was a major part of it. We can't say "Oh, it's GE and SP, so it's explained now." Same with AM handcuffs.

[@Pokemon Master Red]

Well, if we cant, we can tone stuff down, and be able to make other stuff capable of winning over it through force and such. Personally, I think we CAN explain it like that, but if you're saying we cant, then dont get mad when we want technology or whatever that can overpower it. Just because AM was from the OK is no reason to say that its absolute in SP if you cant explain it.

[Gaserlake]

Well, we sorta did already explain AM fields and magic. Magic is converted existence. AM fields say no to it. Existence is absolute. AM fields are just as absolute, so AM fields ARE absolute.

[@Pokemon Master Red]

That original AM field thing, though, wasn't scientific in nature, and surely didn't follow the laws of physics. Apparently, the Aralangs can generate a field exactly like that using technology? Yeah...Not unless its understood how they're able to. If thats not explained, I really dont see how the Aralang/any scientific version wouldn't be a cheap knockoff that can be broken. Unless its explained how they can technologically generate that exact same field-which breaks the laws of science, mind-I dont think that theirs should be absolute.

[Gaserlake]

It did follow laws of physics. It did nothing to break it. Magic isn't included in the laws of physics, and it broke down magic. So, it is able to be redone by technology. Technology just copied the phenomenon that was originally natural. And originally, it was bloody absolute. Mages were stuck for three days without magic, until the phenomenon ended.

[@Pokemon Master Red]

The natural field, though, wasn't scientific in the first place...Science had nothing to do with it, unless Im getting this wrong, in which it REALLY doesn't make any sense. Point is...If it doesn't have to do with science, I fail to understand how science can perfectly replicate or make it. The original thing? Sure, that makes sense to be absolute. Magical AM? More sense, though I dont think that should be absolute either, but still. Technological AM? Makes no sense at all.

[Gaserlake]

How does it break something that had nothing to do with it? Technological AM fields makes a lot of sense, as they're mimicking the effects of the AM field. It's basically copying off of the natural AM fields. If one were to compare a natural AM field and a technological AM field, there wouldn't be any difference in it. Each field is unique on its own, so of course there would be a difference between ANY two AM fields. However, natural AM fields and technological AM fields have no significant difference.

Technology can do things magic can do. The only way I see that's different between magic's and tech's way of doing the same thing, is HOW they do the same thing. The process would different, but the results would be the same.

The original thing? Technological AM fields copy that, except it's on a smaller scale, in terms of size. It's is part of science, too, as NO magic existed for three days during the phenomenon. If not magic, it has to be science. Hardly anything was explained in OK, anyway. Yes, technology and science in OK was unexplained, too, like Hikaru's watch/teleporter.

If magic can do it, it doesn't mean technology couldn't. Technology can do a lot of things magic can do, at the very least.

[Orph]

The thing is that nothing in the RP should be absolute, even if it makes sense nothing can be unbeatable or one-hundred percent immune to something. Just like you yourself said, it's hypocritical. For the sake of the RP being fair an AM field cannot be unbeatable when it comes to magic, it should be able to be overwhelmed.

Nilgaitt infused Quasar - After the recent attack on the Library's Quasar the Archive has increased it's defenses, by employing the relinked Noverians and an incredible amount of Nilgaitt the Archive has infused the Quasar with Nilgaitt, effectively rendering it very magic resistant.

QPRD, Quick Portal Redirecting Defense - The QPRD is a new defensive technology created by the Archive, effectively rendering most projectile weapons useless or ineffective against Archive vessels, fortresses, and planets. Controlled by a hub of super-intelligent VIs the QRPD creates wormholes that redirect projectile weapons back towards their origin. FAL weaponry have been known to be more effective although not entirely, as the QRPD is equipped with sensors that can detect energy charges.

SIGURD Fortress Defensive System - The Sigurd is currently the leading Archive armor system, by incorporating all the leading defensive technology into one system the Archive has created a nigh-indestructible system. Treated Neutronium, EMP resistant materials, BALAR, Nilgaitt, Gray Matter, QRPD, Aegis Shielding, ETC. Currently it's only been equipped into the Library, as it's very, very expensive.

[Gaserlake]

No. The reason why I'm making the AM fields unbeatable IS to make the RP more fair and balanced. And yes, you're right. It is hypocritical. I have heard people brag on about how magic is so much better than tech. Now, when it comes to this, you say that magic and technology is pretty much even with magic, but AM fields knock it off balance.

Niglait and QPRD approved. For SIGURD, if it's so expensive, wouldn't the Library be one of the last things to put it on, due to its size?

[Orph]

Sure it's the largest, but it's also the Archive's most prized defensive position.

They do, as nothing should be unbeatable, sure it can be powerful, but if it's unbeatable, then that's just well unfair. Even if you think making it unbeatable makes it fair it doesn't, it in fact limits the amount of things that you can do to fight back against it.

[Gaserlake]

Alright. SIGURD approved.

It may limit things, but it would force the opponent to be creative and think outside the box. Hell, any piece of technology I have would limit the number of options the opponent has against me.

[Orph]

How..nostalgic. Because that was me and K2's exact response when it came to Twilight energy.

Sigurd, QPRD, and Nilgaitt hole need one more approval.

[Gaserlake]

Well, I wasn't the one that approved Twilight Energy. I hardly even understand it right now.

[Orph]

And yet you one of the people so against it, and yet you didn't even fucking understand it.

[K2]

Sigurd, QPRD, and Nilgaitt hole need one more approval.

Approved.

Also, everyone check out the battle between C2323 and Hikaru. Twilight Energy was easily countered. Imagine that.

[Gaserlake]

I didn't go against it... I hardly knew anything about it. I didn't know there was even a controversy over it.